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The Board - general discussion (including Res 12); notes from the AGM
Topic Started: 15 Jul 2014, 12:03 AM (1,414,841 Views)
The Green Lantern
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murphio
2 Sep 2015, 03:09 PM
Would a striker have made a difference against Malmo? Griffiths scored two goals over the two ties. Scoring three times at home should have been sufficient to take us through. The failure for that didn't lie directly with Lawwell or the board - it was the fault of Ronny Deila and his players. But then the manager was recruited by Lawwell and the players were scouted by his system. The blame must eventually be traced back to him. One thing is for sure - we absolutely cannot afford to make the same mistake three summers on the trot. Some way, some how Lawwell and Deila between them must make sure we are in the group stages next year because we have no one left to sell in order to fill the shortfall.
Maybe if Bitton has a good season we'll be able to cash in on him? I'm sure he'd fit in well at Southampton.
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2 Sep 2015, 01:22 PM
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remy mcswain
2 Sep 2015, 12:53 PM
What is Mulgrew's contract position?


Changed my mind. Poor taste
:lol: :lol: That just intrigues me now, I read on hoping someone had quoted you to find out what was so distasteful.
Mulgrew's had him in enough trouble.
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murphio
2 Sep 2015, 03:09 PM
Would a striker have made a difference against Malmo? Griffiths scored two goals over the two ties. Scoring three times at home should have been sufficient to take us through. The failure for that didn't lie directly with Lawwell or the board - it was the fault of Ronny Deila and his players. But then the manager was recruited by Lawwell and the players were scouted by his system. The blame must eventually be traced back to him. One thing is for sure - we absolutely cannot afford to make the same mistake three summers on the trot. Some way, some how Lawwell and Deila between them must make sure we are in the group stages next year because we have no one left to sell in order to fill the shortfall.
anyone at all upfront who could lead the line and hold the ball to allow us to keep posession would have made a huge difference in malmo. even outwith his goal rosenborg was fantastic up front for them and he is an average player

the manager and players were to blame for getting pumped out rather than a lack of investment though
Edited by Zurawski 7, 2 Sep 2015, 03:20 PM.
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2 Sep 2015, 01:39 PM
remy mcswain
2 Sep 2015, 12:53 PM
What is Mulgrew's contract position?
In breach of the trades description act.
Apparently the word footballer is quoted.
What is it with this anti Mulgrew nonsense. Every time we muck it up on the field or in the transfer market he is made the scapegoat. He certainly isn't the worst player in our squad by any means yet gets slagged off at every opportunity. :nono:
As for our board, yes they have missed several opportunities to sign a half decent striker and/or left back and failed but I would rather we had a board who ensured that the club were financially secure than being like that mob across the river :)
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murphio
2 Sep 2015, 03:09 PM
Would a striker have made a difference against Malmo? Griffiths scored two goals over the two ties. Scoring three times at home should have been sufficient to take us through. The failure for that didn't lie directly with Lawwell or the board - it was the fault of Ronny Deila and his players. But then the manager was recruited by Lawwell and the players were scouted by his system. The blame must eventually be traced back to him. One thing is for sure - we absolutely cannot afford to make the same mistake three summers on the trot. Some way, some how Lawwell and Deila between them must make sure we are in the group stages next year because we have no one left to sell in order to fill the shortfall.
A decent striker would've made a difference away from home.
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2 Sep 2015, 03:30 PM
murphio
2 Sep 2015, 03:09 PM
Would a striker have made a difference against Malmo? Griffiths scored two goals over the two ties. Scoring three times at home should have been sufficient to take us through. The failure for that didn't lie directly with Lawwell or the board - it was the fault of Ronny Deila and his players. But then the manager was recruited by Lawwell and the players were scouted by his system. The blame must eventually be traced back to him. One thing is for sure - we absolutely cannot afford to make the same mistake three summers on the trot. Some way, some how Lawwell and Deila between them must make sure we are in the group stages next year because we have no one left to sell in order to fill the shortfall.
A decent striker would've made a difference away from home.
The point I am making is not that we don't lack a striker; we do. I'm saying that we have better players than Malmo in almost every position. I'm saying we operate on many times their budget. Malmo would love to have Leigh Griffiths in their squad - they couldn't afford his wages though. The failure to get past Malmo was not a result of not buying a striker - we had more than enough to negotiate our way through that tie. Again, that's not to say we shouldn't have invested some decent money on a forward but the one should never be used as an excuse for the other.
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2 Sep 2015, 01:12 PM
remy mcswain
2 Sep 2015, 12:53 PM
What is Mulgrew's contract position?
In what sense, length the content within it?
How long remaining?
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remy mcswain
2 Sep 2015, 03:42 PM
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2 Sep 2015, 01:12 PM
remy mcswain
2 Sep 2015, 12:53 PM
What is Mulgrew's contract position?
In what sense, length the content within it?
How long remaining?
Up in June.
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2 Sep 2015, 03:42 PM
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2 Sep 2015, 01:12 PM

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How long remaining?
Up in June.
Should have been punted this summer then, cos I can't take another season of him :cry:
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2 Sep 2015, 03:42 PM

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Up in June.
Should have been punted this summer then, cos I can't take another season of him :cry:
Also quite odd given our 'policy' of not letting players run their deals down.

Another load of shampooe.
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2 Sep 2015, 03:48 PM
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Should have been punted this summer then, cos I can't take another season of him :cry:
Also quite odd given our 'policy' of not letting players run their deals down.

Another load of shampooe.
He'll probably be given a new contract :cry:
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2 Sep 2015, 03:39 PM
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2 Sep 2015, 03:30 PM
murphio
2 Sep 2015, 03:09 PM
Would a striker have made a difference against Malmo? Griffiths scored two goals over the two ties. Scoring three times at home should have been sufficient to take us through. The failure for that didn't lie directly with Lawwell or the board - it was the fault of Ronny Deila and his players. But then the manager was recruited by Lawwell and the players were scouted by his system. The blame must eventually be traced back to him. One thing is for sure - we absolutely cannot afford to make the same mistake three summers on the trot. Some way, some how Lawwell and Deila between them must make sure we are in the group stages next year because we have no one left to sell in order to fill the shortfall.
A decent striker would've made a difference away from home.
The point I am making is not that we don't lack a striker; we do. I'm saying that we have better players than Malmo in almost every position. I'm saying we operate on many times their budget. Malmo would love to have Leigh Griffiths in their squad - they couldn't afford his wages though. The failure to get past Malmo was not a result of not buying a striker - we had more than enough to negotiate our way through that tie. Again, that's not to say we shouldn't have invested some decent money on a forward but the one should never be used as an excuse for the other.
I think a malaise has infected the club, squad and support where everyone knows that any half decent playet will be sold and those remaining aren't quite up to the job of going down south. This can affect the mentality of everybody so we actually shampooe ourselves at the thought of playing average clubs because we know its make or break and the guys on the pitch aren't good enough to ensure definite qualification. Deila talks a good game both about mentality & fitness but in his first major test(I'm not counting last seasons qualifiers) he's been found wanting. The whole system is flawed because the years of qualifying under Lennon was actually done of the back of a squad put together in Lennon's first summer in charge where we invested the money from McGeady's sale in player acquisitions.
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JonnyB67
2 Sep 2015, 03:50 PM
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2 Sep 2015, 03:46 PM

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Also quite odd given our 'policy' of not letting players run their deals down.

Another load of shampooe.
He'll probably be given a new contract :cry:
He'll hit a run of 5 or 6 games good games... the press and the messageboards will start bleating "surely he's done enough for a new deal?!" Rumours of Bolton's interest will circulate around December. "It would be a tragedy to lose him on a free" etc etc. Then BAM. Four year extension. Then BAM. Loss of form.

I've seen the future.
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2 Sep 2015, 01:22 PM
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2 Sep 2015, 12:43 PM
Like it or not, in every business there's a risk/reward assessment to be made on how much they spend chasing extra income.....our board have clearly come down on the side of setting their budget for the income that can be guaranteed (more or less) rather than taking a punt on spending more on players to chase CL participation.
The amount Celtic could afford to spend this summer without the revenue from Champions League football was hampered by a catalogue of failed signings. We have a guy earning close to £1m per year in Derk Boerigter who has all but retired from football. Balde, Bangura, Pukki, Scepovic - all failures who between them cost the club millions. It is our absolute insistence in shopping in certain price ranges - documented last week by the club scout - which has resulted in this waste. The chances of finding a striker of any kind of quality in that price bracket is remote. We'd have been better off pushing the boat out to keep Gary Hooper but instead Peter Lawwell decided it was preferable to cash in for £5m. In the interim period we have spent the majority of the money on Ciftci and Scepovic. It is completely self defeating. The buck has to stop with Peter Lawwell - it's his scouting structure finding the players and his management team putting them on the pitch. It's just not good enough, simple as that.
I agree we've made some poor choices on strikers in particular....and hopefully something is being done to strengthen our scouting and medicals so we get fewer duds and crocks, and also strengthen our coaching and general support of these players so that more "potential" is turned in to "useful"

The strategy we're working on will probably always generate more rubbish and mediocrity than genuine quality ....but our success rate needs to get a lot better than it is right now, especially when you add in the poor rate of players from our youths making the step up.
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Also quite odd given our 'policy' of not letting players run their deals down.

Another load of shampooe.
He'll probably be given a new contract :cry:
Stokes was :cry:
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Should have been punted this summer then, cos I can't take another season of him :cry:
Also quite odd given our 'policy' of not letting players run their deals down.

Another load of shampooe.
We try not to let the ones we can sell on for a decent fee run their contract down....Mulgrew isn't as bad as some make out, but I doubt if anyone outside Scotland would really have an interest in him, so chances of even getting a couple of hundred grand are slim.
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2 Sep 2015, 04:05 PM
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Also quite odd given our 'policy' of not letting players run their deals down.

Another load of shampooe.
We try not to let the ones we can sell on for a decent fee run their contract down....Mulgrew isn't as bad as some make out, but I doubt if anyone outside Scotland would really have an interest in him, so chances of even getting a couple of hundred grand are slim.
We could have probably got reasonable coin for Samaras.

Instead we let him go for nothing when the manager wanted to sign him up (rightly or wrongly).
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2 Sep 2015, 03:39 PM
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murphio
2 Sep 2015, 03:09 PM
Would a striker have made a difference against Malmo? Griffiths scored two goals over the two ties. Scoring three times at home should have been sufficient to take us through. The failure for that didn't lie directly with Lawwell or the board - it was the fault of Ronny Deila and his players. But then the manager was recruited by Lawwell and the players were scouted by his system. The blame must eventually be traced back to him. One thing is for sure - we absolutely cannot afford to make the same mistake three summers on the trot. Some way, some how Lawwell and Deila between them must make sure we are in the group stages next year because we have no one left to sell in order to fill the shortfall.
A decent striker would've made a difference away from home.
The point I am making is not that we don't lack a striker; we do. I'm saying that we have better players than Malmo in almost every position. I'm saying we operate on many times their budget. Malmo would love to have Leigh Griffiths in their squad - they couldn't afford his wages though. The failure to get past Malmo was not a result of not buying a striker - we had more than enough to negotiate our way through that tie. Again, that's not to say we shouldn't have invested some decent money on a forward but the one should never be used as an excuse for the other.
Rosenberg is better than Griffiths tbh.

We played awfully against them away but Malmo do have some good talent. Yotun is better than Mulgrew. Lewicki is very good. Rodic and Berget played very well also.
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Should have been punted this summer then, cos I can't take another season of him :cry:
Also quite odd given our 'policy' of not letting players run their deals down.

Another load of shampooe.
I thought he had a year left. How come Matthews gets punted but Mulgrew remains? Really doesn't make sense at all. No consistency.
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remy mcswain
2 Sep 2015, 04:44 PM
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Also quite odd given our 'policy' of not letting players run their deals down.

Another load of shampooe.
I thought he had a year left. How come Matthews gets punted but Mulgrew remains? Really doesn't make sense at all. No consistency.
Matthews wouldn't sign a new deal and we got a decent fee for him.

It's probably a combination of Mulgrew intimating that he wants to stay and there being no interest in him (or at least nobody willing to pay decent money for him).
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