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The Board - general discussion (including Res 12); notes from the AGM
Topic Started: 15 Jul 2014, 12:03 AM (1,414,860 Views)
Quiet Assasin
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Walter Sobchak
27 Aug 2015, 06:12 PM
I take it everyone else just received the "go retro with our range of retro t-shirts" email.

Away and take yourselves to eff Celtic :lol:
I felt sorry for the wee lad the other night who had planned to batter out a Champions League e-mail at 9:45.

Celtic should 'go retro' and invest in the squad.
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Wailer
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Zurawski 7
27 Aug 2015, 06:21 PM
Jinky7
27 Aug 2015, 06:18 PM
Hagi Bhoy
27 Aug 2015, 04:24 PM
Boycotts? :lol:
Stay at home and don't you dare go watch Celtic :lol:
dont forget to look down on the celtic supporting "roasters" going to the games also
With the CL we'd have sold out with the EL not so, unless we get a decent-ish draw and even then. Thursday/Sunday doesn't suit me for starters.
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Walter Sobchak
27 Aug 2015, 06:12 PM
I take it everyone else just received the "go retro with our range of retro t-shirts" email.

Away and take yourselves to eff Celtic :lol:
Aye. Let's close down the entire retail operation because we lost a football game. :brickwall:
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kellybhoy
27 Aug 2015, 06:16 PM
Let me get this straight. Malmo's footballing budget is a fraction of ours and they eliminated us. Same goes for Maribor and Legia. So we want the Board to increase our footballing budget so we can beat these lower budget teams. How does that work? :ponder:
I want to see the club stop buying cheap rubbish. A long list on never hasbeens over the last few years with the odd exception. Surely instead of 3 players at £1.5 million we could get so m done at £3 million on a decent wage

The Lawwell model needs a bit of out of the box thinking at times. A project manager buying project players is m o 're of a gamble than the occasional bit of quality.

I gave my season ticket met up a few years ago as I wasn't enjoying it anymore, nothing to do with the huns, all to do with how I feel about the way we are being run.
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Walter Sobchak
27 Aug 2015, 06:12 PM
I take it everyone else just received the "go retro with our range of retro t-shirts" email.

Away and take yourselves to eff Celtic :lol:
Is it champions league branded stuff?

"Relive the 2002 season"...
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Quiet Assasin
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Joseph D. Pistone
27 Aug 2015, 06:32 PM
Walter Sobchak
27 Aug 2015, 06:12 PM
I take it everyone else just received the "go retro with our range of retro t-shirts" email.

Away and take yourselves to eff Celtic :lol:
Is it champions league branded stuff?

"Relive the 2002 season"...
When in doubt, crack the glass marked 'Lisbon'.
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Joseph D. Pistone
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Quiet Assasin
27 Aug 2015, 06:34 PM
Joseph D. Pistone
27 Aug 2015, 06:32 PM
Walter Sobchak
27 Aug 2015, 06:12 PM
I take it everyone else just received the "go retro with our range of retro t-shirts" email.

Away and take yourselves to eff Celtic :lol:
Is it champions league branded stuff?

"Relive the 2002 season"...
When in doubt, crack the glass marked 'Lisbon'.
:lol:
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The question is, how will the board react, if at all, to this defeat.

I suspect they will do exactly as they have done for years and just brass it out.
VVD will just about balance the books, there wont be any budget other than what we gain from selling.

But this defeat is a massive blow for us, not only financially but in terms of who we could attract.
The fact it is the second (or third) time in just over a year we have went out with a whimper against moderate opposition.

It's clear that we need a change of policy, but we have just pissed any chance of doing that up against a wall.
The CL prize money is bigger this year, 5m Euros for a win iirc.
Our only real hope is to get into the groups somehow, and target third place and hopefully pick up a few wins, that would be a huge boost to us.
To do that we really need an investment of money similar in principle to when MON was brought in, but eff knows where it will come from.
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It's still €1.5m for a win.
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Quiet Assasin
27 Aug 2015, 06:43 PM
It's still €1.5m for a win.
Yes sorry - 1.5m - 5m for the last 16 :thumbsup:

Thought it had went up - but anyway its a significant amount for us and the only significant revenue stream open to us at the moment.
Edited by Ess, 27 Aug 2015, 06:52 PM.
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Ess
27 Aug 2015, 06:52 PM
and the only significant revenue stream open to us at the moment.
Are you forgetting about the "sell our best players to a team in the English Premier League" revenue stream? That has been the biggest trigger for Lawwell getting his bonus recently.

Even - on the rare occasion when we do qualify for the CL group stages - only once in the past 3 years, he still sold the backbone of the team in Wilson, Wanyama and Hooper from the successful CL campaign, from the season before.
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Belgrano
27 Aug 2015, 07:04 PM
Are you forgetting about the "sell our best players to a team in the English Premier League" revenue stream? That has been the biggest trigger for Lawwell getting his bonus recently.

I don't think that's true - the most it has done is trigger an extra payment on top of his bonus. His bonus doesn't appear to be linked to any performance indicator that I can see - which means it isn't actually a bonus at all. Why his salary is done like that - I have no idea.
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Walter Sobchak
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fatboab
27 Aug 2015, 06:25 PM
Walter Sobchak
27 Aug 2015, 06:12 PM
I take it everyone else just received the "go retro with our range of retro t-shirts" email.

Away and take yourselves to eff Celtic :lol:
Aye. Let's close down the entire retail operation because we lost a football game. :brickwall:
They are trying to punt LL merchandise 2 days after we got papped out the CL, they should give us a break :lol:
Edited by Walter Sobchak, 27 Aug 2015, 07:28 PM.
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Quiet Assasin
27 Aug 2015, 06:34 PM
Joseph D. Pistone
27 Aug 2015, 06:32 PM
Walter Sobchak
27 Aug 2015, 06:12 PM
I take it everyone else just received the "go retro with our range of retro t-shirts" email.

Away and take yourselves to eff Celtic :lol:
Is it champions league branded stuff?

"Relive the 2002 season"...
When in doubt, crack the glass marked 'Lisbon'.
:lol:
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wilbur67
27 Aug 2015, 04:16 PM
I still don't get the rush to renew season books every season, supporters should hang off to see if we spend first and then qualify for the CL. There's no way I'd be a supporter based in Ireland or a Scottish Island or remote corner and forking out for a book when most home games may well be on a Sunday.

Furthermore, is there really a need to buy one anyway- especially when the ground is far bigger than the average support it holds? It was different during the MON years, but we're not going back there anytime soon. So, the best bet is not to own a ST and pick you 10-15 or 20 games a season based on their attractiveness. The whole ST campaign is rigged towards the company and not the 'customer'.
Not sure where to start with this.
I agree a season ticket makes no economical sense but I recall someone once called it our Celtic tax.
Yes, I will miss games. Yes, I might want us to spend our money in a different way but if we all went down this route then we might long for the golden days of Ciftci. How else could the club budget effectively?
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Willie Wonka
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wilbur67
27 Aug 2015, 04:16 PM
I still don't get the rush to renew season books every season, supporters should hang off to see if we spend first and then qualify for the CL. There's no way I'd be a supporter based in Ireland or a Scottish Island or remote corner and forking out for a book when most home games may well be on a Sunday.

Furthermore, is there really a need to buy one anyway- especially when the ground is far bigger than the average support it holds? It was different during the MON years, but we're not going back there anytime soon. So, the best bet is not to own a ST and pick you 10-15 or 20 games a season based on their attractiveness. The whole ST campaign is rigged towards the company and not the 'customer'.
If we're sitting with 20k seasons at the end of July do you really think PL will spend?
More likely a bigger clear out would follow. Getting the money in early allows budgeting for the whole season.

The problem isn't what we spend its what we spend it on. We can't scout a striker for love or money and if 2.5m got you a Virgil 2 years ago, it will take more this year which means the selling price has to reflect that.

Like it or not the sales subsidise the wage bill, spending all of the VVD money on transfers AND adding to the wage bill won't happen.
Edited by Willie Wonka, 27 Aug 2015, 07:51 PM.
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Cisnox
27 Aug 2015, 06:15 PM
Celticbhoy_07
27 Aug 2015, 06:04 PM
Cisnox
27 Aug 2015, 06:02 PM

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Nobody was calling for a boycott last week so I can only assume its a reaction to failing to qualify. Just like nobody was calling for Deila to be sacked last week yet they are now.

It's ridiculous. :lol:
No, it's a reaction to 3 seasons without correct investment and a CEO who is picking up more in a salry than he's spending on the team.

It's a reaction to costing us £30 million in 2 years.

It's a reaction to the absurd game plan of selling our best players every year to plug a hole in the gap left by the failure to reach the Champions League each season because of a failure to adequately invest in the team.

It's a reaction to appointing a manger who was initially lined up to be the Assistant Manager, who was then given the managerial role because our plan A was Roy Keane and our plan B was Dan Petrescu (and if that wasn't bad enough, they actually knocked us back :ffs: )

So yes, a boycott would be good. Then we might actually get the message across. That was the suggestion last season, with similar replies from guys like you. Now we're a year down the line in the exact same situation once again, having the exact same effing conversation on this forum and you think it's a good idea to continue to financially support this madness?
Biggest pile of tripe I've ever heard. :lol:

I'm not even going to bother with a response. :arrr:


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I wish that Celtic would take advantage of the fact that there are hundreds of very good to excellent players playing in Uruguay and Argentina who play there while owning passports for playing in the EU. The initial fee for these players would be well within Celtics current budget and wages would also be no problem. A Celtic hard to beat in Europe with fast fit strong players who have many skills would surely be the result if we switched to a South American style of play with flair to the fore.
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rpceltic
27 Aug 2015, 07:52 PM
I wish that Celtic would take advantage of the fact that there are hundreds of very good to excellent players playing in Uruguay and Argentina who play there while owning passports for playing in the EU. The initial fee for these players would be well within Celtics current budget and wages would also be no problem. A Celtic hard to beat in Europe with fast fit strong players who have many skills would surely be the result if we switched to a South American style of play with flair to the fore.
Scheidt. :twitch:
We should at least look there, we'd have no problem with a wp either if the player was half decent at all.Koki mizuno got one ffs.
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murphio
27 Aug 2015, 07:07 PM
Belgrano
27 Aug 2015, 07:04 PM
Are you forgetting about the "sell our best players to a team in the English Premier League" revenue stream? That has been the biggest trigger for Lawwell getting his bonus recently.

I don't think that's true - the most it has done is trigger an extra payment on top of his bonus. His bonus doesn't appear to be linked to any performance indicator that I can see - which means it isn't actually a bonus at all. Why his salary is done like that - I have no idea.
Bonuses are usually a very good way of not paying the same level of tax you'd pay on a similar salaried amount.
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