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| Topic Started: 15 Jul 2014, 12:03 AM (1,414,864 Views) | |
| Bobby Peru | 27 Aug 2015, 11:29 AM Post #3161 |
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To be fair we had also lost Ledley and Hooper from our previous CL squad, both were vital players for NL and neither have been adequately replaced. |
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| Dannybhoy95 | 27 Aug 2015, 11:29 AM Post #3162 |
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Champions Again Olé, Olé
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I didn't renew my SB this season. That's a start, I suppose. |
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| Stevie67 | 27 Aug 2015, 11:31 AM Post #3163 |
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First name on the team-sheet
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Part of the problem with our "strategy" is that we never sign experienced players on what the board see as the wrong side of 30 in the mould of Rosenborg, an experienced head who has done it at the top level. We don't do this because we have become obsessed with resale value. There needs to be a happy medium, no problem in looking to develop players but having a few older heads with experience wouldn't go a miss. |
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| ChiliPepper | 27 Aug 2015, 11:32 AM Post #3164 |
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Getting on a bit
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Not that I'm trying to trample your defiance or anything... but that wont do much. They expect STs to go down. They'll be budgeting for it. I'm sure a lot of people have done the same as you, but they wont care at all until something/someone actually puts the shampooers up them. |
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| Luca | 27 Aug 2015, 11:33 AM Post #3165 |
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Off treasure hunting in Holland
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| Farkakt AlteKaker | 27 Aug 2015, 11:35 AM Post #3166 |
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Crowded elevators smell different to midgets
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When was the last time we adequately replaced anyone from the 1st team? I wouldn't count Gordon as he was a massive risk that has, thankfully, worked out. |
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| Dannybhoy95 | 27 Aug 2015, 11:44 AM Post #3167 |
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Champions Again Olé, Olé
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Believe me, I absolutely understand Lawwell really won't give a eff that he's lost £400+ from myself. I know I'm pretty insignificant in the grand scheme of things. I genuinely have no idea what else to do, though. Sad thing is there'll be a spike in ST holders next season as the ever irrelevant bastards from the West will be joining us in Scotland's Premier League and all will be rosy in the garden again. |
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| Joseph D. Pistone | 27 Aug 2015, 11:45 AM Post #3168 |
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Couple of quips about Rangers should do the trick. |
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| Gerinho | 27 Aug 2015, 11:57 AM Post #3169 |
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Sad thing is, Lawwell will be desperate to draw huns in the league cup today. This is fundamentally where he has lost touch with majority of supporters. |
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| Deleted User | 27 Aug 2015, 11:59 AM Post #3170 |
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David Hay has been out the game at this level for nearly 2 decades for eff sake. Gies peace. The whole scouting system has been a farce, and the fact that its been allowed to continue seemingly without change (other than the addition and then departure of the ex Dundee Utd manager, whatever the eff he's called) is yet another issue that has been a catastrophe under Lawwell's management. We're now £30 million down from failing to invest correctly in the team across 3 attempts at Champions League qualification. Yet this effin' pleb will probably pick up more money this season than the club will actually spend on player additions, which is completely effing mental. To think people on here actually had a go at me last season because I said I was no longer going to spend money on the club or attend games whilst this guy was in charge. The only way we're getting this guy out is by people waking up and smelling the coffee and doing the same. Faithful through and through? Aye, financially support and keep this guy in a job whilst we continue our journey into farcical mediocrity. We should be LIGHT YEARS ahead of where we are right now. Stop spending money and supporting this guy. |
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| polo88 | 27 Aug 2015, 12:00 PM Post #3171 |
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Everyone's Fantasy Football first pick
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One of the big issues surrounding signing real quality players is the fact that quality players generally don't want to play in the pishing rain against Kilmarnock and Hamilton Accies etc. |
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| henrimd | 27 Aug 2015, 12:13 PM Post #3172 |
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First-team starter
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Not totally disagreeing with your point, but we did get Sutton, Hartson, Thompson, Lambert, Petrov and Nakamura to do it. Are there any objective reasons we shouldn't be able to do the same now, apart from money? And what if those players played in a squad that was so strong that they could rely on Champions League football in addition to playing Kilmarnock and Hamilton? |
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| tinsoldier | 27 Aug 2015, 12:18 PM Post #3173 |
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Older than dirt
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Was it not about this time last year Lawwell was interviewed by Celtic TV about the strategy of the club, and interview he then distributed to the media? |
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| Estadio nacional | 27 Aug 2015, 12:19 PM Post #3174 |
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Retired and now a BT Sports pundit
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If the Green Brigade really were 'ultra' they could be a bit vocal about Lawwell, a TIFO of a money mad pig or something |
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| tinsoldier | 27 Aug 2015, 12:21 PM Post #3175 |
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Older than dirt
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It does rain in other countries, even on a Wednesday night. Pay them enough money and they'll come. |
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| Joseph D. Pistone | 27 Aug 2015, 12:40 PM Post #3176 |
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This. They correctly were visibly and vocally opposed to John Reid who was nothing more than a figurehead. |
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| Locky255 | 27 Aug 2015, 12:47 PM Post #3177 |
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2 days after and PL is still here? F*ck off already. |
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| Winds of Change CSC | 27 Aug 2015, 01:00 PM Post #3178 |
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The trouble now mate is some of them won't even if a deal has been agreed. Libor Kozak (who? I hear you ask) is the latest non-entity to turn us down citing his reason as "wanting to play at a higher level" He'd rather sit on a bench at the likes of Watford in the EPL or join the might of a Bristol City in the English Championship than come here and he is not alone. We have seen numerous deals in the past few years fail to materialise despite apparently agreeing deals & terms. Lawwell has since decided on a clear policy of no longer even trying to get in our top targets, he will spend the absolute minimum on punts & projects. I would opinion that anyone we bring in is probably no 4 or 5 names down the list or opposed to being either the top target. The reptiles who run the game up here (Lawwell firmly included) along with the hun-loving media have done nothing but trash our game since the corrupt huns died in 2012. every opportunity the got & still get they run the game down. It has been a total fecking disgrace. All to serve the needs of one now defunct club. I do not underestimate the appeal & allure that playing in a Celtic/huns game had in persuading players to join us. It was a factor, we cannot ignore that. sure we don't pay anything close to top dollar in wages (despite overpaying some of the dross we have on our books based on their non-existent ability) but we can match English Championship clubs in most cases. That big donkey Murphy earned more here than he does at Ipswich. Our failure to make any inroads into Champions League qualification in recent years is also a large factor - not helped of course by the virus that is Lawwell making up for his own failings to get a decent quality of player in, in the right fecking positions, by selling anything on our books that looks remotely promising and in turn ripping the guts and the ambition out of our team year on year. We pay a lot more than Malmo do on wages yet they made us look like fecking schoolboys on Tuesday night. It's as depressing as feck
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| aldo | 27 Aug 2015, 01:01 PM Post #3179 |
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And that's the way we like it...
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Feck aye! But what could we realistically do that would gain sufficient support to be effective? Lots of us are sickened by Desmond-Lawwell's management, we have reasoned, balanced fears for the ability of the club to live up to it's stature and the legacy of it's history. We doubt there is the will to at least try to drive Celtic on to be the best football club it can be, because their priority is running a stable, profitable business that handsomely rewards it executives. I don't doubt for a minute Desmond and Lawwell & co are Celtic supporters at heart and love to see the team win, but while that's all we supporters care about, they have an additional agenda that goes beyond heir responsibility to running things properly. They know how we tick; they understand our loyalty to our club and they know how to exploit that. They know mass fan revolt won't happen again as it did to oust the old regime, not least of all because we football supporters have become seduced by the gimmickry of modern football; that SKY and BT have sedated us to the point we're too complacent and just too lazy to get off our arses. And, most of all, they know that many Celtic fans are too easily distracted to stand their ground. The huns will be promoted next year and that will suffice for many who are pissed off, as sickening and exasperating a thing as that is to admit. As we all know, the only way to get through to such people is to hit them financially. We're all season ticketed up now - not that we would refuse to sign up en masse any way: I tried that last year then shat it 1 hour after deadline and lost my usual seat - but a massive statement would be to ignore the Europa League. Not individuals acting alone, but in a concerted show of defiance. For example, every season ticket holder could return the inevitable email we will receive plugging the 3 match package, accompanied by a template statement composed on this site, or Huddleboard etc, explain why we won't be signing up? Its not just the financial loss that would hit them, but the embarrassment of the masses of empty seats, perhaps adorned with guerrilla-style banners spelling it out that this is a protest and not simply apathy? Thing is, for every 1 man or woman ready to go through with it, there's more who wouldn't, and I'm far from sure I could go through with it! Perhaps too, our own ultra fellows might return to their occasional-yet-effective visual displays highlighting our own Board's failure? They like to portray themselves as rebels: well bhoys, how about not concerning yourselves with, say, Dinamo Zagreb's chairman and setting your sights closer to home? If you're gonnae get into trouble, why not do it fighting Celtic's battles? We know what we have to do. Whether we can pull it of it another matter all together. |
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| Sjb141 | 27 Aug 2015, 01:03 PM Post #3180 |
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First-team captain
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W/r/t your last paragraph - a lot of british clubs use that model now. Man City, tottenham, southampton, west brom, liverpool (they call it a 'committee' but it's practically the same thing') all do off the top of my head. Sure there's probably many more (maybe bournemouth? watford..etc). So it's not very rare. And I think Strachan would be an awful, awful fit for that role to be entirely honest. I do agree with your 1st 2 paragraphs though. It seems like Lawwell has got it in his head he can spot players to some degree (that's just my opinion from quotes/comments from when we didn't sign players like doumbia so i could certainly be wrong here) which is concerning imo. |
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