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| Hoops For Me All The Way | 26 Aug 2015, 10:39 PM Post #3121 |
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You want equality? Consider if that person feels Equal.
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The reality is that preparations for next years CL campaign should be underway using Europa League and our domestic campaigns as a basis for that. I said the same last year and it did not happen. The window closes shortly and nothing worthwhile becomes available in the winter. Trying to buy in next summer transfer window is too late. They need to forward plan in more ways than one. |
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| aldo | 26 Aug 2015, 10:50 PM Post #3122 |
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And that's the way we like it...
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Like the Tories' approach to governing the country, Desmond-Lawwell have chosen to pursue an austerity agenda. The Tories claim they believe it's the best way to get Blighty out of recession, while Desmond-Lawwell claim it is because the huns' self destruction costs Celtic £10m a year. Both parties are bare faced, lying bastards, but while the economy really is in recession, this guff about the huns is bullsh it. It's an excuse to justify the prompt-as-possible sale of our best players while replacing them with cheaper, more risky signings, as we'll still win the league regardless. For as long as I can remember, successive Celtic boards have never displayed any ambition greater than just being better than the old huns. Jock Stein knew what it meant to be not just better, but to batter the bastards into a distant second; that winning the greatest prize possible and setting a world record of titles brought Celtic not only honourable entries in the record books, but also an enduring, worldwide admiration that still wins us friends today. He achieved this in spite of a parsimonious board who would have bullied and stymied him like they did McGrory had he not stood up to them. Our current owner and his enforcer are equally unambitious. Rather than sieze the opportunity to cement Celtic as a powerhouse that lead the way in a new era of Scottish football, a new era that was cleansed of the poisoned old Rangers club and it's corrupt agents in the SFA, they just kept their heads down, refused to rock the boat and are counting the days until that new mob are promoted. They have betrayed every decent Celtic fan who wants an honest game of football, and who wants to see out club be the best it can be. |
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| frankebhoy | 26 Aug 2015, 11:05 PM Post #3123 |
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Everyone's Fantasy Football first pick
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don't forget the titles we lost to a rangers side who were on their knees financially a few years back,Then automatic entry into the champions league losing us tens of millions . |
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| GARNGAD BHOY TEXAS USA | 26 Aug 2015, 11:15 PM Post #3124 |
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Garngad bhoy done good ...
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THEY DO NOT GIVE A FECK ABOUT CELTIC........ |
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| GARNGAD BHOY TEXAS USA | 26 Aug 2015, 11:17 PM Post #3125 |
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Garngad bhoy done good ...
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| shugmc | 27 Aug 2015, 12:48 AM Post #3126 |
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I was there
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| ChiliPepper | 27 Aug 2015, 01:18 AM Post #3127 |
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Getting on a bit
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I don't mind Lawwell staying as long as he doesn't control footballing matters. Never going to happen though. |
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| Dr Who | 27 Aug 2015, 01:22 AM Post #3128 |
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Getting noticed in the reserves
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Spot on my friend and the only thing I'd add is that there's nothing we can do about it . |
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| QualityStreet1970 | 27 Aug 2015, 01:53 AM Post #3129 |
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First-team starter
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I'm getting that printed on a T-shirt! (Slightly too big for a tattoo.) |
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| Silent Witness | 27 Aug 2015, 02:01 AM Post #3130 |
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First-team captain
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Peter Lawwell and the board are doing the job that they are qualified to do, that is run a business. I don't have any issue with the level of expenditure they oversee - I'd be more worried if we overspent. We already outspend the teams that regularly beat us in Europe. I fail to see how the answer is spend more if we're not spending what we already do wisely. Is it Ronny's fault then ? Well I don't think he's entirely in control of recruiting and he certainly doesn't decide how much is spent. Looks to me that we're missing a role in the club to oversee the footballing strategy. I agree that we don't really have one, but that has largely applied since Fergus took over anyway. Lawwell appears to make footballing decisions dictated by the business, specifically player sales. But we would incur losses without some of these, and our squad has been too big for too long anyway. But he's doing a job that doesn't seem to be filled at the moment, particularly since a manager will not volunteer to discard players to save money (or rather not to spend money on nothing). My only real gripe with PL is that he is paid well over the odds, but that is not a huge dent in the club's finances. We need a director of football, i.e. an ex-footballer and coach who can make the required footballing calls, but work within the financial constraints. Not many British clubs have made this leap, because a lot of managers would not be happy working with one. However, Ronny most certainly would. It's actually a perfect role for someone like Gordon Strachan. If we don't qualify for the Euros, maybe we could give him a call. |
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| yogi bear eleven | 27 Aug 2015, 02:06 AM Post #3131 |
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Everyone's Fantasy Football first pick
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Didn't Vim the Tim say to a certain person "You bought him, you play him". |
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| Silent Witness | 27 Aug 2015, 02:17 AM Post #3132 |
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First-team captain
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A case of the wrong person (Jock Brown) in the role. It doesn't mean that the role was wrong. Wim worked with van Hanegem at Feyenoord. Ronny worked with Flo at Stromsgodset. |
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| Lewis Hamilton's Biggest Fan | 27 Aug 2015, 02:21 AM Post #3133 |
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Still Hooped 4 Life, no ye urni
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I hope he and our board have their laughing gas at the ready. As predicted by many (and scoffed at by most on here) the tribute act will soon be amongst us, the media fanfare will begin welcoming in the prodigal sons and before you know it investment will be made to make them a champions league side and challenging us for a title. "It will never happen they said" Well wake up and smell the pigs urine ladies and gentlemen, it's happening and we've stood still when we should have been out of sight footballing wise, we should have had significantly more income during that period and we should have tied markets up that would reduce them to a mere insignificance. Seems too many were caught belly laughing when we should have been out of sight never mind out of reach. Edited by Lewis Hamilton's Biggest Fan, 27 Aug 2015, 02:22 AM.
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| St. Peter | 27 Aug 2015, 02:56 AM Post #3134 |
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Everyone's Fantasy Football first pick
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great post... sums up my feelings exactly.
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| thetrurolion | 27 Aug 2015, 06:02 AM Post #3135 |
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If anyone was to be in that role, I'd go for Davie hay. That man could spot a player. Showed it when Tb was manager. Edited by thetrurolion, 27 Aug 2015, 06:02 AM.
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| Estadio nacional | 27 Aug 2015, 06:31 AM Post #3136 |
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Retired and now a BT Sports pundit
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Spot on. When they died and when we had the 2012 season of income that PL was boasting about we should have been steadily improving the squad/team year on year the way Lyon and Rosenburg did back in the day when they dominated their leagues. We have that set up offered to us on a plate, yet since that 2012 season we have declined to the standard of 'just better than SPL.' We still have that available to us and should improve the squad ahead of next years CL qualifiers but with that carrot Lawwell in charge Id bet the team that goes into next years qualifiers will be weaker than the one that played the other night. That will be backed up with PL interviews on CTV, in his chosen media outlets, CQN blogs etc about 'being too close to EPL we cant compete' or 'the CL level is beyond us' or 'look theres Bristol City bidding 8m for players' self defeating shampooe. Qualify for the CL and use the money from that to improve each year to help ensure CL qualification the following season, PL has failed at that horrendously and you have got to hope questions have been asked of the swine. |
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| aiden67 | 27 Aug 2015, 06:53 AM Post #3137 |
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Getting on a bit
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The fans need to do there part as well. Who knows maybe the 10-20k empty seats being filled every week could lead to a bit of investment in the team. If we'd qualified for the champions league the seats would've been filled for those games. |
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| harryhoodshatrick | 27 Aug 2015, 07:30 AM Post #3138 |
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Everyone's Fantasy Football first pick
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Or you could say a bit of investment in the team could lead to the seats getting filled.I'm a season ticket holder but my mates who gave given up their season tickets over the years don't regret their decision and when they see the standard dropping year after year they actually feel justified in giving up their ticket. |
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| Lewis Hamilton's Biggest Fan | 27 Aug 2015, 08:25 AM Post #3139 |
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Still Hooped 4 Life, no ye urni
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And the fans who don't go just now would probably have fallen for that before and have. The money to improve the team sufficiently for a Champions League group stage effort is there. It shouldn't take a "let's sell these empty seats and then we will negotiate." It should in fact be a "get a few decent signings and show some ambition and seat sales will take care of themselves. We say it year on year but we are a joke of a club when it comes to making progress. One step forward three steps back every effin time. Now we have no champions league money and the sale of VVD won't even cover the loss. So really we've lost already from a business perspective this year. |
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| thetrurolion | 27 Aug 2015, 09:00 AM Post #3140 |
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It all feels a little hopeless. On the face of, Celtic are light years ahead of when I started going: a wonderful stadium, nice approaches to the stadium, training facilities, retail outlets etc. however, the attitude to the team is the same. Sell! Every time we get a decent player, they look to move them on. It was the same from the time of Desmond White - replacing charlie nicholas with Jim Melrose ! Clearly celtics football strategy is not working on OR off the field. Firstly - clearly there is a finite amount to be spent on the team. Despite Lawwells scaremongering al the old rangers, NO celtic fan wants to go down that route. But we DO need to bring in some quality. I for one, would be happy with a smaller squad- the amount of dross we hold onto is incredible- and I include some of the 'reserves' in that. Move them on. Free them to free up wages if need be! Buy 2 or 3 players for bigger fees in key positions. The fans especially need a hero up front. Even the Hampden year gave us big Pierre! We can also buy shrewdly. As well as the young scots, shy not a few old grids from England or Europe. Remember the difference Pat Stanton made to big Roddy? Or the impact of Billy Stark on the centenary squad? But of course, Lawwell seems over interested in resell. It all seems a false economy. Not only was Hoopers money squandered on mediocrity, but the dilution has cost us a FORTUNE in champions league money that seemed there for the taking, but the loss of revenue in tickets and merchandising must be staggering. Remember when there were waiting lists for season tickets? But there seems no way to get our views across. We have an absentee billionaire who frankly doesn't care about his toy, putting Lawwell in place and richly rewarding him for profit. There is no interest in the glory and the dream. It's hard to imagine the support taking to what once was the car park to harangue the board as the old board were. As said, Desmond isn't there ! And it took us being on our knees before that came to pass ( there were still many defending our previous 'custodians' even then!!!!!) harder to imagine it as we inexorably march to another championship, then. And to be fair, Lawwell et al are providing us annually with a more competitive league as the likes of Aberdeen gain ground on us. So, a cut price manager who may or may not be allowed to choose his players and a cut price team. Europa league is our level (at best) as a team, but as a club we should be a regular in the Champions league. Another Celts for change, please!!!!
Edited by thetrurolion, 27 Aug 2015, 09:02 AM.
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great post... sums up my feelings exactly.

8:49 AM Jul 11