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The Board - general discussion (including Res 12); notes from the AGM
Topic Started: 15 Jul 2014, 12:03 AM (1,414,874 Views)
murphio
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The Green Lantern
25 Aug 2015, 11:38 PM
murphio
25 Aug 2015, 11:34 PM
The Green Lantern
25 Aug 2015, 11:24 PM
Peter Lawwell doesn't care about how you feel tonight. He doesn't care about how you feel ever. Whilst your benchmark for success is great Celtic players playing football the Celtic way, with success in the CL and domestic dominance, his benchmark is profit.
Sorry to burst your bubble chum, but no it's not. Peter Lawwell has no benchmark. As I've said on here before - Bullet proof Pete has received his monster salary - and complete bonus - regardless of what happens either on or off the pitch. Profits down - here ya go, Pete. Share price down, here ya go Pete. Debt up, here ya go Pete. Turnover down, here ya go Pete. League lost, here ya go Pete. Tomorrow, I am going to try and calculate what this individual has earned at Celtic. I suspect it is more than Henrik Larsson. The man is complete joke. But he is enabled by Dermot Desmond.
The truth is even more Kafkaesque than my original rant could have encapsulated. :lol:
I wasn't trying to call you out because I agree with your general sentiment but I went though the accounts before and could find no direct correlation with Lawwell's incentive bonus - on or off the pitch. This is supposedly 'extra' money paid to Lawwell which is completely unrelated to performance. As I have said, in the years when turnover decreased, when the share price fell, when profits were down, when we won nothing and were out of Europe early, Bullet Proof Peter trousered a nice wedge. This guy is a cockroach - he could teach Bear Grills a thing or two about survival.
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mizpah
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Nothing changes until we stop paying

Anything else is waffle and good intentions
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beer_goggler1888
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Harp Lager ICE cold
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shugmc
25 Aug 2015, 11:59 PM
beer_goggler1888
25 Aug 2015, 11:58 PM
Neil Jung
25 Aug 2015, 11:41 PM
Lawwell will still get his cool million after Van Dijk is sold. Renumeration packages shouldn't be based on profit in the transfer market. It should be based on success on the pitch allied to financial stability.
Criminal to think this chancer will be paid more than our star centre forward.
I don't recall us signing one :suspect:


The chancer that is wearing the number 7 jersey.
Edited by beer_goggler1888, 26 Aug 2015, 12:06 AM.
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shugmc
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I was there
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beer_goggler1888
26 Aug 2015, 12:05 AM
shugmc
25 Aug 2015, 11:59 PM
beer_goggler1888
25 Aug 2015, 11:58 PM

Quoting limited to 3 levels deep
I don't recall us signing one :suspect:
The chancer that is wearing the number 7 jersey.
I refer you to my previous answer
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Harry68
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We gamble every year on long odds against shots but any gambler will tell you that you need to speculate to accumulate.We still show no signs of doing so.

We've been enduring the 'custodians of the clubs future' for too long now for it not to fire back in their faces. Living within our means to the terrified scale that we do is the path to mediocrity.

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TheEvilGenius
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They'll never effing learn.
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paulfg42
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Fiat justitia ruat caelum
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The Green Lantern
25 Aug 2015, 11:24 PM
Peter Lawwell doesn't care about how you feel tonight. He doesn't care about how you feel ever. Whilst your benchmark for success is great Celtic players playing football the Celtic way, with success in the CL and domestic dominance, his benchmark is profit. How much can the company make this year? Where can we find a nice money spinner? Which of our best players do Southampton want this transfer window?

When you have someone running a football club whose bonus is predicated on selling players, there can only be one result. The team will get worse year on year because the only thing that matters is the financial health of the company. If a profit can be made through CL qualification, that's a bonus; if not, another way will be found.

What makes me sick to my stomach tonight is the Club Link No Other crap that we're fed all the time. People who care about making money, well-known businessmen who are interested in their pay packet and nothing else, actually have the gall to tell us that our club has a special ethos. Newsflash: it doesn't. That's because Peter Lawwell has destroyed the ethos of the club.

Imagine being the person who can take something with so much emotional resonance for millions of people across the globe - and across the generations - and sacrifice it at the altar of pounds and pence? If it were me, I wouldn't be able to look myself in the mirror. A Club Like No Other - don't make me laugh.
Spot on :potm:
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Gerinho
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We will now sign a player on loan and another we've never heard of before. We will go bak to being optimistic for a few weeks and Lawwell gets away with it again.

The manager wanted a left back as at the start o the transfer window. Tonight he had to choose between CM and EI. Disgrace
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McStay
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The Green Lantern
25 Aug 2015, 11:24 PM
Peter Lawwell doesn't care about how you feel tonight. He doesn't care about how you feel ever. Whilst your benchmark for success is great Celtic players playing football the Celtic way, with success in the CL and domestic dominance, his benchmark is profit. How much can the company make this year? Where can we find a nice money spinner? Which of our best players do Southampton want this transfer window?

When you have someone running a football club whose bonus is predicated on selling players, there can only be one result. The team will get worse year on year because the only thing that matters is the financial health of the company. If a profit can be made through CL qualification, that's a bonus; if not, another way will be found.

What makes me sick to my stomach tonight is the Club Link No Other crap that we're fed all the time. People who care about making money, well-known businessmen who are interested in their pay packet and nothing else, actually have the gall to tell us that our club has a special ethos. Newsflash: it doesn't. That's because Peter Lawwell has destroyed the ethos of the club.

Imagine being the person who can take something with so much emotional resonance for millions of people across the globe - and across the generations - and sacrifice it at the altar of pounds and pence? If it were me, I wouldn't be able to look myself in the mirror. A Club Like No Other - don't make me laugh.
:worthy:
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ootmaheid
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mizpah
26 Aug 2015, 12:02 AM
Nothing changes until we stop paying

Anything else is waffle and good intentions
Could I interest you in a Ronny Roar t-shirt?
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thetrurolion
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25 Aug 2015, 11:33 PM
Away an take a effing look at yourselves.

We lost a game of football.

The knee jerk blame game is really pathetic.

Is this a wind up? It was the manner of the defeat. Together with the manner of last years defeat and the close run thing the previous year against a bunch of nobody's. The board must love people like you who accept mediocrity . This has been going on for years. The board simply don't care about success on the pitch. It's all about how little they can get away with spending.
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Harry68
26 Aug 2015, 12:09 AM
We gamble every year on long odds against shots but any gambler will tell you that you need to speculate to accumulate.We still show no signs of doing so.

We've been enduring the 'custodians of the clubs future' for too long now for it not to fire back in their faces. Living within our means to the terrified scale that we do is the path to mediocrity.

Gamble is the right word. That's what they do every pre season. Every gamble comes down to luck, no matter how 'educated' or well thought out.

Sometimes they pay off and sometimes they don't. This year it didn't.

When was the last time we speculated though? Surely they owe us that, once in a while?
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Pendy12
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Desmond needs to step aside. There are other who would like to invest in the club and supplement our income to the tune of 5-6 mil per year for one big player per year. Lawwell is nowhere near what we should be looking for. The club has downsized in every aspect except in his salary.
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JTH
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Straight to Hell !
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Pendy12
26 Aug 2015, 12:21 AM
Desmond needs to step aside. There are other who would like to invest in the club and supplement our income to the tune of 5-6 mil per year for one big player per year. Lawwell is nowhere near what we should be looking for. The club has downsized in every aspect except in his salary.
Who?
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murphio
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McStay
26 Aug 2015, 12:15 AM
The Green Lantern
25 Aug 2015, 11:24 PM
Peter Lawwell doesn't care about how you feel tonight. He doesn't care about how you feel ever. Whilst your benchmark for success is great Celtic players playing football the Celtic way, with success in the CL and domestic dominance, his benchmark is profit. How much can the company make this year? Where can we find a nice money spinner? Which of our best players do Southampton want this transfer window?

When you have someone running a football club whose bonus is predicated on selling players, there can only be one result. The team will get worse year on year because the only thing that matters is the financial health of the company. If a profit can be made through CL qualification, that's a bonus; if not, another way will be found.

What makes me sick to my stomach tonight is the Club Link No Other crap that we're fed all the time. People who care about making money, well-known businessmen who are interested in their pay packet and nothing else, actually have the gall to tell us that our club has a special ethos. Newsflash: it doesn't. That's because Peter Lawwell has destroyed the ethos of the club.

Imagine being the person who can take something with so much emotional resonance for millions of people across the globe - and across the generations - and sacrifice it at the altar of pounds and pence? If it were me, I wouldn't be able to look myself in the mirror. A Club Like No Other - don't make me laugh.
:worthy:
I'm sorry but, as I said overleaf, the sentiment is correct but the facts are off kilter. Lawwell's bonus is linked to neither profit nor performance. I've been through the accounts and he trousered his cash regardless. He has received an extra payout on top of his full bonus for 'positive transfer outcomes' and god knows what that entailed but you can rest assured that Gordon Strachan, the manager at the time, was undermined as a result.
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JTH
26 Aug 2015, 12:26 AM
Pendy12
26 Aug 2015, 12:21 AM
Desmond needs to step aside. There are other who would like to invest in the club and supplement our income to the tune of 5-6 mil per year for one big player per year. Lawwell is nowhere near what we should be looking for. The club has downsized in every aspect except in his salary.
Who?
Eff it I'm in, sod the wife's housekeeping :arrr:
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ootmaheid
26 Aug 2015, 12:19 AM
mizpah
26 Aug 2015, 12:02 AM
Nothing changes until we stop paying

Anything else is waffle and good intentions
Could I interest you in a Ronny Roar t-shirt?
:lol:
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Pendy12
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JTH
26 Aug 2015, 12:26 AM
Pendy12
26 Aug 2015, 12:21 AM
Desmond needs to step aside. There are other who would like to invest in the club and supplement our income to the tune of 5-6 mil per year for one big player per year. Lawwell is nowhere near what we should be looking for. The club has downsized in every aspect except in his salary.
Who?
You don't think there is one wealthy person who wouldn't want to invest in Celtic? Essentially we have Dermot who has put his hand in his pocket to buy shares and gets the prestige of owning and doing what he wants with the club.
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JTH
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Straight to Hell !
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Pendy12
26 Aug 2015, 12:33 AM
JTH
26 Aug 2015, 12:26 AM
Pendy12
26 Aug 2015, 12:21 AM
Desmond needs to step aside. There are other who would like to invest in the club and supplement our income to the tune of 5-6 mil per year for one big player per year. Lawwell is nowhere near what we should be looking for. The club has downsized in every aspect except in his salary.
Who?
You don't think there is one wealthy person who wouldn't want to invest in Celtic? Essentially we have Dermot who has put his hand in his pocket to buy shares and gets the prestige of owning and doing what he wants with the club.
You seemed pretty sure of yourself so just asked the question. Did not realise it was conjecture with no substance, thought you might have found a mad oligarch willing to spunk an extra £6mil on top of normal spending. You tart! :thumbsup:
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'Frightened' 'Gutless' 'Scared' 'Ashamed' 'Embarrassing' 'A footballing disaster' 'A financial catastrophe'

An abject, abysmal, atrocious and humiliating performance tonight - by the players and the manager.

At this moment, I have no idea where we go from here as a Club - in terms of players and manager.

However, it is patently obvious that a change in strategy is urgently required

The first change is to rid Celtic of the common denominator for failure - Lawwell
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