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The Board - general discussion (including Res 12); notes from the AGM
Topic Started: 15 Jul 2014, 12:03 AM (1,414,887 Views)
St. Peter
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Big_Bobo_Balde
6 Oct 2014, 06:53 AM
Rookie manager appointed.
Rookie manager not backed with decent funds.
Knocked out of the CL not once but twice after a gift of a reinstatement .
Half empty stadiums.
League campaign so far has been shambolic.


The buck stops at Lawwell's door.
Here, here... BBB

It's just slightly less than 2 years have passed since we beat Barcelona 2-1 at home in a competitive Champions League game... we have now just been beat by Hamilton 1-0 at home in a competitive domestic match. That in itself says a lot.

Delia is the easy target, the non-thinking target, there's a much 'bigger picture' going on at our club currently and your post taps into to it.
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drks
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The tory-filled board share as much blame as Lawwell. Clearly happy with the strategy of sitting tight while we await Sevco.
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remy mcswain
7 Oct 2014, 12:09 AM
Deila isn't a rookie manager.
He sure manages like one.
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mcaidanmc
7 Oct 2014, 01:43 AM
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7 Oct 2014, 01:07 AM
mcaidanmc
7 Oct 2014, 01:02 AM

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he managed a professional football club did he not?
the size makes no difference, he has a job to do which is the same whether at Celtic, Stromgodwhatevertheefftheyarecalled or Barcelona.
sort the players out to try beat the opposition, that is his remit, he is failing but he is not a rookie.
That's a bit simplistic, he was managing a second rate side at best and had no Champions league experience. Of all the signings this summer only Berget (as poor as he's been) was his. This shambles lies firmly at Lawwells door, Keanes comments in this article only convince me further that Pistol Pete needs chased.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2782961/Roy-Keane-reveals-turned-managing-Celtic-summer.html
I didn't want Roy Keane anywhere near our club, but eff me, would take him in a heartbeat now.
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The club appointed assistants is an interesting one. From what (little admittedly) I've seen there is no chemistry with Collins at all. They barely speak to each other in the dugout. At least Lennon and Mjallby had some camaraderie. Deila must feel like the man himself.

He's been undermined in so many ways.
Edited by Fly Pelican, 7 Oct 2014, 06:34 AM.
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1888tic
7 Oct 2014, 06:31 AM
mcaidanmc
7 Oct 2014, 01:43 AM
KTP
7 Oct 2014, 01:07 AM

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That's a bit simplistic, he was managing a second rate side at best and had no Champions league experience. Of all the signings this summer only Berget (as poor as he's been) was his. This shambles lies firmly at Lawwells door, Keanes comments in this article only convince me further that Pistol Pete needs chased.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2782961/Roy-Keane-reveals-turned-managing-Celtic-summer.html
I didn't want Roy Keane anywhere near our club, but eff me, would take him in a heartbeat now.
He would have already thrown the toys out of the pram by now.
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mcaidanmc
7 Oct 2014, 01:43 AM
This shambles lies firmly at Lawwells door, Keanes comments in this article only convince me further that Pistol Pete needs chased.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2782961/Roy-Keane-reveals-turned-managing-Celtic-summer.html
Reading that article paints a very illuminating picture of how our club negotiates. Now we only have Keane's word on this but he is not the type of person to make things up and certainly comes across as someone trying not to burn any bridges. Given the rumours that we have continually failed to capture top targets, instead settling for players down the list, strikes me of a complete inflexibility or ambition from the board and in particular our CE.

This type of inflexibility is what has put our club in the position it currently is in. With dwindling crowds, the standard of the SPL, poor performances in the league and the shambles of the CL exit(s) then we are starting to become or have already become an unattractive club to certain players. Negotiating tactics outlined in the Keane article will further push us down the pecking order. Well done to the board and the CE.
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Oh my god thank the eff Keane never got the job. An absolute failure as a manager and a a bit of a carrot to boot.
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subtle_anxiety
7 Oct 2014, 11:01 AM
Oh my god thank the eff Keane never got the job. An absolute failure as a manager and a a bit of a carrot to boot.
Would rather have that carrot, than the turnip we have right now as manager.
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subtle_anxiety
7 Oct 2014, 11:01 AM
Oh my god thank the eff Keane never got the job. An absolute failure as a manager and a a bit of a carrot to boot.
One positive about Roy Keane as Celtic manager is that he'd have castrated Lawwell

Two alpha males - only one winner. As DD's managerial choice, Keane would have reduced Lawwell's influence
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Wee Ed KTF
7 Oct 2014, 11:29 AM
subtle_anxiety
7 Oct 2014, 11:01 AM
Oh my god thank the eff Keane never got the job. An absolute failure as a manager and a a bit of a carrot to boot.
One positive about Roy Keane as Celtic manager is that he'd have castrated Lawwell

Two alpha males - only one winner. As DD's managerial choice, Keane would have reduced Lawwell's influence
That theory kinda falls apart when you remember that Lawwell is Desmond's choice as CEO.
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7 Oct 2014, 11:34 AM
Wee Ed KTF
7 Oct 2014, 11:29 AM
subtle_anxiety
7 Oct 2014, 11:01 AM
Oh my god thank the eff Keane never got the job. An absolute failure as a manager and a a bit of a carrot to boot.
One positive about Roy Keane as Celtic manager is that he'd have castrated Lawwell

Two alpha males - only one winner. As DD's managerial choice, Keane would have reduced Lawwell's influence
That theory kinda falls apart when you remember that Lawwell is Desmond's choice as CEO.
I agree. But would DD side with Lawwell if there's was confrontation and dispute between Keane, DD's choice as new manager, and Lawwell?

Lawwell is the biggest problem. We urgently need to find a solution.

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maxbhoy
6 Oct 2014, 01:50 PM
Estoril
6 Oct 2014, 01:38 PM
Have to say the new guys look pretty rank so far.
Gordon good but Tonev, Wakaso, Scepovic, Denayer and Guidetti do not look any better than what we have.
I fear we may have acquired another group of Banguras and Amidos
Disagree Deynor,Wakuso and Guidetti look promising but manager clueless..to big a job to be playing his fantasy football :cry:
Only think Guidetti looks any decent. Rest are pretty gash.
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With the (rightful) criticism and scrutiny Deila is facing over his bizarre tactics and team selections, the sheer incompetence of a board and chief scout who have overseen the loss of thousands from the gate each week, struggling in a league that used to be a two-horse division but now isn't even that, taking us from a CL team side to a side only qualified for the Europa League through a technicality, to a side where the 'assets' have been sold off to such an extend that we're down to our last 'golden egg' mean that it's genuinely almost at that point that we're getting itchy feet to move towards the car park.

And to think, this is a board that will - inevitably - in a few weeks time reject a proposal from us - their "key stakeholders" - that we introduce the Living Wage for Celtic, #aclublikenoother

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You really have to be very cynical when it comes to the so-called Celtic "Board". Ultimately given DD's dominance they are nothing more than a glorified/pampered talking shop. They may have been (or are) Celtic fans at some point in the past. They know that whatever dross is served up there is a hard-core fan base - say about 35,000 - that will turn up for practically anything. They also know - as does Peter - that in just over a year Rangers will ride to the rescue and the "Old Firm" will be reborn. Now, however much most on here disdain the very thought of the "Old Firm" or the very idea that Sevco might just be Rangers in disguise - Peter and the Bhoys know that the resulting media hype will result in many more bums on seats and more season tickets. That's just how it is. Peter will tough out whatever dog's breakfast Ronny serves up this season in the safe knowledge that the circus will resume next season. If Peter's panicking it might not be because of Ronny's failed "system" - it will be that Super Ally might fail to get his tribute act back up into the SPFL next season. Make no mistake these so-called Board members have little respect for the ordinary Celtic fan - I think that's patently clear.
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Wee Ed KTF
7 Oct 2014, 11:38 AM
SaMule
7 Oct 2014, 11:34 AM
Wee Ed KTF
7 Oct 2014, 11:29 AM

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That theory kinda falls apart when you remember that Lawwell is Desmond's choice as CEO.
I agree. But would DD side with Lawwell if there's was confrontation and dispute between Keane, DD's choice as new manager, and Lawwell?

Lawwell is the biggest problem. We urgently need to find a solution.

I have no doubt Keane being Keane he would never have lasted more than likely doing one of his own volition and I would not want him anywhere near the Celtic job but Keane being Keane and not giving a feck would have been Lawwell's biggest fear as regards appointing him as Keane would take him on in the public domain - Even if ultimately Keane did lose that one (and I am not so sure he would) some of the real home truths coming out would mean that Keane would severely weaken PL's position and despite his comfort zone it would likely not be too long before he was down the road behind Keane
Edited by CaltonBhoy1967, 7 Oct 2014, 06:35 PM.
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The top tier is closing

Wait till they have to shut one of the ends

If you don't like it don't go

It's being run as a business, and when the money runs dry when no one goes, root cause, and corrective action comes very quickly
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CaltonBhoy1967
7 Oct 2014, 06:35 PM
Wee Ed KTF
7 Oct 2014, 11:38 AM
SaMule
7 Oct 2014, 11:34 AM

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I agree. But would DD side with Lawwell if there's was confrontation and dispute between Keane, DD's choice as new manager, and Lawwell?

Lawwell is the biggest problem. We urgently need to find a solution.

I have no doubt Keane being Keane he would never have lasted more than likely doing one of his own volition and I would not want him anywhere near the Celtic job but Keane being Keane and not giving a feck would have been Lawwell's biggest fear as regards appointing him as Keane would take him on in the public domain - Even if ultimately Keane did lose that one (and I am not so sure he would) some of the real home truths coming out would mean that Keane would severely weaken PL's position and despite his comfort zone it would likely not be too long before he was down the road behind Keane
No he wouldn't. The board and dd in particular sack the CEO, and pl doesn't hide anything or do anything without recourse to dd and the board

So you're wrong. Keane wouldn't expose anything to anyone who matters
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St. Peter
7 Oct 2014, 02:39 AM
Big_Bobo_Balde
6 Oct 2014, 06:53 AM
Rookie manager appointed.
Rookie manager not backed with decent funds.
Knocked out of the CL not once but twice after a gift of a reinstatement .
Half empty stadiums.
League campaign so far has been shambolic.


The buck stops at Lawwell's door.
Here, here... BBB

It's just slightly less than 2 years have passed since we beat Barcelona 2-1 at home in a competitive Champions League game... we have now just been beat by Hamilton 1-0 at home in a competitive domestic match. That in itself says a lot.

Delia is the easy target, the non-thinking target, there's a much 'bigger picture' going on at our club currently and your post taps into to it.
That makes no sense. A year after beating Barcelona the same players bar a few and the same manager got knocked out the league cup at home to Morton (now a semi pro team).

You're being selective with facts
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wee_chorley
7 Oct 2014, 08:11 PM
The top tier is closing

Wait till they have to shut one of the ends

If you don't like it don't go

It's being run as a business, and when the money runs dry when no one goes, root cause, and corrective action comes very quickly
It'll refill when Sevco arrive.

Which has been Lawwell's play from day one, for me.
Edited by Wanyerma, 8 Oct 2014, 12:00 AM.
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