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| Topic Started: 15 Jul 2014, 12:03 AM (1,414,888 Views) | |
| CELTBHOY1988 | 5 Oct 2014, 07:44 PM Post #2681 |
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Getting on a bit
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Even if Lawwell resigns, DD will get another Lawwell puppet. |
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| Franakamura | 6 Oct 2014, 04:23 AM Post #2682 |
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Our club is rotting from the top down. |
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| Big_Bobo_Balde | 6 Oct 2014, 06:53 AM Post #2683 |
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Lizzie's Lothario
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Rookie manager appointed. Rookie manager not backed with decent funds. Knocked out of the CL not once but twice after a gift of a reinstatement . Half empty stadiums. League campaign so far has been shambolic. The buck stops at Lawwell's door. |
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| An Piobaire | 6 Oct 2014, 07:06 AM Post #2684 |
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First team training
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Is the correct answer BBB. |
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| ChristyMoore | 6 Oct 2014, 07:26 AM Post #2685 |
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Considering retirement
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While that's all true, the manager should be doing better with what he has. |
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| steely39 | 6 Oct 2014, 08:22 AM Post #2686 |
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First-team starter
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Not much a manager can do if the players wont play for him. he has not been given the chance to bring his own guys in. If I was RD I would quit and give my reasons why, not backed, forced to work with club appointed assistansts. Time for RD to stop being a puppet and tell the truth about what is going on. We all know the board (PL) are playing us for mugs. Dont get me wrong, RD has made plenty of mistakes but I guess thats what comes when you are inexperienced, thats 2 appointments in a row where we have had inexperienced managers. Its not all bad though, if Craig Gordon keeps up his form and stays injury free we should get a good price for him in the summer. |
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| ChristyMoore | 6 Oct 2014, 08:24 AM Post #2687 |
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Considering retirement
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Regardless of the board, Deila should be erring more from the players. Failure to do so is down to him. The ayers not wanting to play for him is nothi to do with the board either. |
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| steely39 | 6 Oct 2014, 08:36 AM Post #2688 |
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Its happened before and will happen again, new manager comes to a club with their own ideas and current group of players dont like it and prefer how it used to be. Players dont bother so manager gets the sack or board back the new manager with funds to bring his own players in. Our board have done nothing to help their appointed manager who will ultimately get sacked and the same players get to carry on regardless. FWIW im not saying RD is the right man but it annoys me that players (who get paid a lot more than the should get for playing in the SPFL) get away this. We are in this situation due to the failings of manager and players but ultimately the board is responsible for it getting to this stage. |
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| andy d | 6 Oct 2014, 08:37 AM Post #2689 |
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Club Captain
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I couldn't agree more. I like Lawwell, but something has fundamentally changed in the running of the club in the last few years. We all know that we needed to cut our cloth to suit the market in which we operate. But surely that was achieved two years ago. We would appear to be following the business model of many companies that are no longer the force they once were. They shed jobs, just because it sees a quick fix in reducing costs. Even when they have a loyal customer base, that then becomes increasingly dissatisfied about the slipping customer service level. Off the top of my head, BT were one such example. Driving down the costs and reducing customer satisfaction, ultimately led to their business reducing, and more cost cutting as a result. Their competitors came in, and took large chunks of their business. They sold all of their properties off as another cost cutting exercise, and therefore had very little in the way of capital assets, against which they could secure funding for development. At a rough calculation, it must have taken them ten years to claw back to a position of strength. Some might argue that they are still nowhere near that position. |
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| thenakattack | 6 Oct 2014, 09:17 AM Post #2690 |
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Nobody is saying he carries no blame, but BBBs post is completely correct. He has failed for a number of reasons and a fair few lie at lawwells door. |
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| Deleted User | 6 Oct 2014, 01:38 PM Post #2691 |
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Have to say the new guys look pretty rank so far. Gordon good but Tonev, Wakaso, Scepovic, Denayer and Guidetti do not look any better than what we have. I fear we may have acquired another group of Banguras and Amidos |
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| liger05 | 6 Oct 2014, 01:43 PM Post #2692 |
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Considering retirement
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Tends to happen when you shop at the bottom of the barrel |
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| maxbhoy | 6 Oct 2014, 01:50 PM Post #2693 |
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Occasional Substitute
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Disagree Deynor,Wakuso and Guidetti look promising but manager clueless..to big a job to be playing his fantasy football |
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| zombieslayer35 | 6 Oct 2014, 01:58 PM Post #2694 |
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Getting on a bit
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Surely, if we became available, there are people who would be happy to buy us and take us forward? Desmond is clearly not interested and the board are happy to plod along rather than try to actually take us forward. Okay domestically there may not be attraction but with the right level of investment player wise we should be qualifying for the CL which in turn brings in much more money. Is it too much to expect the board of our club want to move forward like the fans want us too? Are we expecting too much? I don't think it is too much to expect a good manager and better quality players. The money is there if we wanted to speculate to accumulate. |
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| not_the_conventional_wisdom | 6 Oct 2014, 04:44 PM Post #2695 |
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On a dark, desert highway
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Not all of this can be blamed on Lawwell. Scottish football generally is dying on its arse. No money, little excitement, the joys of 'big' English and Spanish leagues only a remote control click away. It's no surprise the stadium is half empty given the opposition that's on offer. |
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| remy mcswain | 7 Oct 2014, 12:09 AM Post #2696 |
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Big in Canada
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Deila isn't a rookie manager. |
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| mcaidanmc | 7 Oct 2014, 01:02 AM Post #2697 |
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In terms of British football and managing a club the size and stature of Celtic, he most definitely is. |
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| Deleted User | 7 Oct 2014, 01:04 AM Post #2698 |
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He has twice the experience of what our previous manager has at the moment. |
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| KTP | 7 Oct 2014, 01:07 AM Post #2699 |
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How about no?
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he managed a professional football club did he not? the size makes no difference, he has a job to do which is the same whether at Celtic, Stromgodwhatevertheefftheyarecalled or Barcelona. sort the players out to try beat the opposition, that is his remit, he is failing but he is not a rookie. Edited by KTP, 7 Oct 2014, 01:07 AM.
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| mcaidanmc | 7 Oct 2014, 01:43 AM Post #2700 |
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That's a bit simplistic, he was managing a second rate side at best and had no Champions league experience. Of all the signings this summer only Berget (as poor as he's been) was his. This shambles lies firmly at Lawwells door, Keanes comments in this article only convince me further that Pistol Pete needs chased. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2782961/Roy-Keane-reveals-turned-managing-Celtic-summer.html |
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