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The Board - general discussion (including Res 12); notes from the AGM
Topic Started: 15 Jul 2014, 12:03 AM (1,414,889 Views)
Dannybhoy95
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Neil Jung
5 Oct 2014, 03:02 PM
This is the thread that should be top of the page. Not Deila or any individual player. Its these ***** that have run our club down with the result being what we have today. They brought in a coach who was obviously cheap but whom had potential. He mustve told them how he was going to set the team up. Someone, Peter Lawwell, must've known through their great fitba knowledge we didn't have a squad suited to play like that. What they needed to do was back him in the transfer market. They didn't. So we now have a cheap manager , with a cheap squad who aren't suited to playing the way he wants but as he is a stubborn bastard/ idealist(delete as you want) he won't change to suit the players. This is all the boards fault. Whether it is Lawwell as CEO or our owner Desmond the blame should fall at their door and not at Deilas. Yes he could do better but let's not give the arseholes a convenient pattsy. This is all down to them.
Absolutely. :thumbsup:
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Ess
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The biggest opportunity in our history wasted.

No league competition, realistic CL route, more importantly we didn't have to share the pot.
Three years to build a team to maybe challenge for third / second place in the groups.

We brought in huge amounts in player sales and end up in a worse position than we were three years ago.

Its brutally bad management
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jon bhoy
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Dannybhoy95
5 Oct 2014, 03:41 PM
Neil Jung
5 Oct 2014, 03:02 PM
This is the thread that should be top of the page. Not Deila or any individual player. Its these ***** that have run our club down with the result being what we have today. They brought in a coach who was obviously cheap but whom had potential. He mustve told them how he was going to set the team up. Someone, Peter Lawwell, must've known through their great fitba knowledge we didn't have a squad suited to play like that. What they needed to do was back him in the transfer market. They didn't. So we now have a cheap manager , with a cheap squad who aren't suited to playing the way he wants but as he is a stubborn bastard/ idealist(delete as you want) he won't change to suit the players. This is all the boards fault. Whether it is Lawwell as CEO or our owner Desmond the blame should fall at their door and not at Deilas. Yes he could do better but let's not give the arseholes a convenient pattsy. This is all down to them.
Absolutely. :thumbsup:
totally agree :thumbsup:
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Neil Jung
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Ess
5 Oct 2014, 03:54 PM
The biggest opportunity in our history wasted.

No league competition, realistic CL route, more importantly we didn't have to share the pot.
Three years to build a team to maybe challenge for third / second place in the groups.

We brought in huge amounts in player sales and end up in a worse position than we were three years ago.

Its brutally bad management
:theclap:
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shugmc
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You're doing a grand job, lads. Worth every penny. Keep up the good work, eh? :theclap:
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brianlara67
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Neil Jung
5 Oct 2014, 03:59 PM
Ess
5 Oct 2014, 03:54 PM
The biggest opportunity in our history wasted.

No league competition, realistic CL route, more importantly we didn't have to share the pot.
Three years to build a team to maybe challenge for third / second place in the groups.

We brought in huge amounts in player sales and end up in a worse position than we were three years ago.

Its brutally bad management
:theclap:
Hear Hear! And to think that the CEO who heads up this shambles is paid £1M a year. He's laughing all the way to the bank.

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Wee Ed KTF
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Ess
5 Oct 2014, 03:54 PM
The biggest opportunity in our history wasted.

No league competition, realistic CL route, more importantly we didn't have to share the pot.
Three years to build a team to maybe challenge for third / second place in the groups.

We brought in huge amounts in player sales and end up in a worse position than we were three years ago.

Its brutally bad management
:potm:

:theclap:
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Lobey Dosser
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brianlara67
5 Oct 2014, 03:11 PM
Neil Jung
5 Oct 2014, 03:02 PM
This is the thread that should be top of the page. Not Deila or any individual player. Its these ***** that have run our club down with the result being what we have today. They brought in a coach who was obviously cheap but whom had potential. He mustve told them how he was going to set the team up. Someone, Peter Lawwell, must've known through their great fitba knowledge we didn't have a squad suited to play like that. What they needed to do was back him in the transfer market. They didn't. So we now have a cheap manager , with a cheap squad who aren't suited to playing the way he wants but as he is a stubborn bastard/ idealist(delete as you want) he won't change to suit the players. This is all the boards fault. Whether it is Lawwell as CEO or our owner Desmond the blame should fall at their door and not at Deilas. Yes he could do better but let's not give the arseholes a convenient pattsy. This is all down to them.
This.

I was never convinced by his appointment and I've seen nothing since the day of that appointment to change my mind. The last 3 league games we have drawn with Motherwell, beaten St Mirren and lost to Hamilton. We have struggled in all 3 games.

You have to blame the idiots who appointed him in the first place. They appoint the manager. In any business if you appoint the wrong guy YOU should carry the can. We have seen examples in work where someone gets a job and EVERONE goes WTF? We all know the person is out of his depth and yet they get appointed and we all know how it work it out.

Ronny will get the boot and the halfwits who appointed him will get off scot free. To get paid a £1M a year to come up with an appointment like this is utterly utterly shameful.

:nono:
I can't believe Lawwell would ever feel shame about anything related to his Celtic role. A legend in his own lunch time, feted and courted by Celtic wannabees.

But in the same way that Deila is not entirely to blame, Lawwell has the excuse of only taking orders from above.

A CEO of a £76M SME company, raking in around three to four times what the President of the USA gets, should by any stretch of the imagination have operational as well as financial objectives. Product quality as well as profit.

I can't see how a board could justify his bonus with the continual deterioration in the quality of performance over the past seven or eight years.

The only conclusion I can draw is that SPLOB is only judged on finances. His guvnors have determined that.

The root of the problem we see on the park sits in the Celtic boardroom and with the absentee landlords.



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Neil Jung
5 Oct 2014, 03:02 PM
This is the thread that should be top of the page. Not Deila or any individual player. Its these ***** that have run our club down with the result being what we have today. They brought in a coach who was obviously cheap but whom had potential. He mustve told them how he was going to set the team up. Someone, Peter Lawwell, must've known through their great fitba knowledge we didn't have a squad suited to play like that. What they needed to do was back him in the transfer market. They didn't. So we now have a cheap manager , with a cheap squad who aren't suited to playing the way he wants but as he is a stubborn bastard/ idealist(delete as you want) he won't change to suit the players. This is all the boards fault. Whether it is Lawwell as CEO or our owner Desmond the blame should fall at their door and not at Deilas. Yes he could do better but let's not give the arseholes a convenient pattsy. This is all down to them.
Agree completely, and that is the reason why Deila needed support.

If is as out of his depth as it has seemed then he would fail anyway.

As a support who likes to believe itself to be one of the best, we should have realised the potential for this situation and ensured that
Deila was not treated like he was effing us over on purpose.

Never before in our clubs history has a manager been dealt such a shampooty hand, and probably never before have the fans been so brutal
in their assessment given the context.
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PL will start to feel pressure if results like today continue
RD was the cheap option -he was interviewed as a replacement for big Johann but got the top job when others like RK knocked it back
The board took a punt on him because without doubt he talks a good game
However like all walks of life we know that very often talking a good game is no substitute for being able to play a good game
Increasingly he looks like a guy out of his depth
He stood at the sidelines all the first half and started there in the second but when we lost the goal he went and sat down for 10-15 minutes
If the result of his confab in the dugout had been us winning then that would have been fine -instead it looked as though he didn't have as scooby and that he was ducking out!
Only Johansen seems up for playing his way. If we had six or seven others with his attitude, fitness and desire them RD's system might have a chance -unfortunately we don't!
Time for the board to do what they should have done in the summer and appoint a proper professional manager with experience in a professional league !
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Wee Red
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The shareholders are the only ones who can put the boot in with any effect, and it needs doing, this cannot continue. A great chance for the football club has been missed and only the PLC office bearers have seen any benefit, all financial, which is scandalous for the so called Custodians of a great football club.

Shameful Dermott Desmond that you have taken a thoroughbred and are forcing it to the knackers yard by wilful neglect.
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jbj712
5 Oct 2014, 06:09 PM
PL will start to feel pressure if results like today continue
RD was the cheap option -he was interviewed as a replacement for big Johann but got the top job when others like RK knocked it back
The board took a punt on him because without doubt he talks a good game
However like all walks of life we know that very often talking a good game is no substitute for being able to play a good game
Increasingly he looks like a guy out of his depth
He stood at the sidelines all the first half and started there in the second but when we lost the goal he went and sat down for 10-15 minutes
If the result of his confab in the dugout had been us winning then that would have been fine -instead it looked as though he didn't have as scooby and that he was ducking out!
Only Johansen seems up for playing his way. If we had six or seven others with his attitude, fitness and desire them RD's system might have a chance -unfortunately we don't!
Time for the board to do what they should have done in the summer and appoint a proper professional manager with experience in a professional league !
Therein lies the problem out of all the "candidates" that we were apparently looking at in the summer for me there was not a single name there that made me believe that the board were wanting someone who could take us to the next level in a footballing sense, there were no names there that filled me with excitement that we could begin to compete properly in the CL.
Edited by Hellas67, 5 Oct 2014, 06:14 PM.
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Gonga
5 Oct 2014, 06:06 PM
Neil Jung
5 Oct 2014, 03:02 PM
This is the thread that should be top of the page. Not Deila or any individual player. Its these ***** that have run our club down with the result being what we have today. They brought in a coach who was obviously cheap but whom had potential. He mustve told them how he was going to set the team up. Someone, Peter Lawwell, must've known through their great fitba knowledge we didn't have a squad suited to play like that. What they needed to do was back him in the transfer market. They didn't. So we now have a cheap manager , with a cheap squad who aren't suited to playing the way he wants but as he is a stubborn bastard/ idealist(delete as you want) he won't change to suit the players. This is all the boards fault. Whether it is Lawwell as CEO or our owner Desmond the blame should fall at their door and not at Deilas. Yes he could do better but let's not give the arseholes a convenient pattsy. This is all down to them.
Agree completely, and that is the reason why Deila needed support.

If is as out of his depth as it has seemed then he would fail anyway.

As a support who likes to believe itself to be one of the best, we should have realised the potential for this situation and ensured that
Deila was not treated like he was effing us over on purpose.

Never before in our clubs history has a manager been dealt such a shampooty hand, and probably never before have the fans been so brutal
in their assessment given the context.
I respect your stance taken in defence of Deila , although I don't entirely agree with some of your arguments. I'm content to agree to disagree, but I find it hard to recognise your accusation that he was treated like he was effing us over on purpose.

Naïve, inept, stubborn, inexperienced are all comments I've seen, but when was he accused of purposely effing us over ?

A little OTT perhaps.



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Gonga
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Lobey Dosser
5 Oct 2014, 06:16 PM
Gonga
5 Oct 2014, 06:06 PM
Neil Jung
5 Oct 2014, 03:02 PM
This is the thread that should be top of the page. Not Deila or any individual player. Its these ***** that have run our club down with the result being what we have today. They brought in a coach who was obviously cheap but whom had potential. He mustve told them how he was going to set the team up. Someone, Peter Lawwell, must've known through their great fitba knowledge we didn't have a squad suited to play like that. What they needed to do was back him in the transfer market. They didn't. So we now have a cheap manager , with a cheap squad who aren't suited to playing the way he wants but as he is a stubborn bastard/ idealist(delete as you want) he won't change to suit the players. This is all the boards fault. Whether it is Lawwell as CEO or our owner Desmond the blame should fall at their door and not at Deilas. Yes he could do better but let's not give the arseholes a convenient pattsy. This is all down to them.
Agree completely, and that is the reason why Deila needed support.

If is as out of his depth as it has seemed then he would fail anyway.

As a support who likes to believe itself to be one of the best, we should have realised the potential for this situation and ensured that
Deila was not treated like he was effing us over on purpose.

Never before in our clubs history has a manager been dealt such a shampooty hand, and probably never before have the fans been so brutal
in their assessment given the context.
I respect your stance taken in defence of Deila , although I don't entirely agree with some of your arguments. I'm content to agree to disagree, but I find it hard to recognise your accusation that he was treated like he was effing us over on purpose.

Naïve, inept, stubborn, inexperienced are all comments I've seen, but when was he accused of purposely effing us over ?

A little OTT perhaps.



I never said he was accused of that, I said that he has been treated almost as badly as if that was his crime.

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Lobey Dosser
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Gonga
5 Oct 2014, 06:17 PM
Lobey Dosser
5 Oct 2014, 06:16 PM
Gonga
5 Oct 2014, 06:06 PM

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I respect your stance taken in defence of Deila , although I don't entirely agree with some of your arguments. I'm content to agree to disagree, but I find it hard to recognise your accusation that he was treated like he was effing us over on purpose.

Naïve, inept, stubborn, inexperienced are all comments I've seen, but when was he accused of purposely effing us over ?

A little OTT perhaps.



I never said he was accused of that, I said that he has been treated almost as badly as if that was his crime.

OK take your point, I took the gist of your comment and not the literal. :thumbsup:
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5 Oct 2014, 05:34 PM
Ess
5 Oct 2014, 03:54 PM
The biggest opportunity in our history wasted.

No league competition, realistic CL route, more importantly we didn't have to share the pot.
Three years to build a team to maybe challenge for third / second place in the groups.

We brought in huge amounts in player sales and end up in a worse position than we were three years ago.

Its brutally bad management
:potm:

:theclap:
That's it.
So sad for the faithful fans.
Totally unnecessary and self inflicted.
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Ess
5 Oct 2014, 03:54 PM
The biggest opportunity in our history wasted.

No league competition, realistic CL route, more importantly we didn't have to share the pot.
Three years to build a team to maybe challenge for third / second place in the groups.

We brought in huge amounts in player sales and end up in a worse position than we were three years ago.

Its brutally bad management
:thumbsup:

Completely agree.

Lawwell carries the can for the complete shambles the club are in at present, from an unbelievable position of strength we are now in a place where there is not a team in Scotland afraid to come to Celtic Park and have a go at us.
We have made millions from the likes of Forster, Hooper and Wanyama yet end up with their replacements being 2 free transfers and a haddy from Hibs.

This is before we even touch the shameful off the field stuff with regards to paying the living wage, refusal to back supporters in harrasment issues from police.

Your first line nails it, the singular biggest opportunity in our history wasted, 2 years ago Neil Lennon was talking about how confident he felt about going beyond the last 16 with a few more signings ( and a bit of luck ).
Now we're getting comprehensively beaten from Hamilton.

Long long past time Lawwell was shown the door.
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I've just realised something. Not sure why I didn't think of it before.

There are a few exceptions to the rule, but it is generally accepted that wages should never exceed more than 33% of turnover in a well run business.

Peter Lawwell's alone are 1.5% of our assumed turnover for this year, or around 5% of what our total wage bill should be.

That is disgraceful.
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It's so ironic that in a period in which we should be coasting at the top of domestic football and enjoying ourselves that here we are yet again self destructing due to the jaundiced views of the uber clown Lawwell and the "do nothing" majority shareholder Desmond.

These pair of jokers have managed to make a right pigs ear of things from top to bottom at OUR football club.

we took a massive punt on RD having taken a previous gamble on NL and watched it come up trumps. This is Lawwell's MO, if it works once we will keep on trying it in the faint hope it will work again, only this time we'll save a few quid while doing it.

The leech has been doing this year on year on year. The only thing not being downsized is his obscene salary.

He is still having a relatively easy ride despite of all this.

When are we going to wake the feck up and chase these circus acts out the door??
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5 Oct 2014, 07:24 PM
It's so ironic that in a period in which we should be coasting at the top of domestic football and enjoying ourselves that here we are yet again self destructing due to the jaundiced views of the uber clown Lawwell and the "do nothing" majority shareholder Desmond.

These pair of jokers have managed to make a right pigs ear of things from top to bottom at OUR football club.

we took a massive punt on RD having taken a previous gamble on NL and watched it come up trumps. This is Lawwell's MO, if it works once we will keep on trying it in the faint hope it will work again, only this time we'll save a few quid while doing it.

The leech has been doing this year on year on year. The only thing not being downsized is his obscene salary.

He is still having a relatively easy ride despite of all this.

When are we going to wake the feck up and chase these circus acts out the door??
We're a PLC, unless we do it via shareholder power, chances are it will stay the same.

Lawwell knows this better than anyone. I've said it countless times, he is Desmond's man on the ground, and is bombproof.

Unless he becomes a liability to Desmond, he will reign. Sickening, but reality.
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