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| Topic Started: 15 Jul 2014, 12:03 AM (1,414,914 Views) | |
| jim62 | 29 Aug 2014, 11:55 PM Post #2181 |
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up on the roof!!
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Have just read this Do we still have a post of the month award
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| Bob Loblaw | 30 Aug 2014, 12:06 AM Post #2182 |
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Off treasure hunting in Holland
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Of course it wont happen but what we're saying is players don't really give a eff where they're playing or who they're up against, as long as they're getting paid highest amount they can. |
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| Zurawski 7 | 30 Aug 2014, 12:10 AM Post #2183 |
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dont think thats true tbh. virgil isnt desperate to leave just for more money. same with hooper. hooper probably earned very little more than if he stayed with us after bonuses were factored in i think its too simplistic to say we can attract players by offering decent money. if they are decent players they are likely to have other offers the same if not more lucrative as well as in much better leagues. i think too many people understate just how hard it is to get players to come to scotland right now Edited by Zurawski 7, 30 Aug 2014, 12:10 AM.
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| antrimkev | 30 Aug 2014, 12:26 AM Post #2184 |
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First-team starter
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get him out to feck what is his contract? what is he doing to earn the 1 million etc? was he not doing an interview on clyde last night? |
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| The Vagabond | 30 Aug 2014, 12:35 AM Post #2185 |
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I'm new. Be gentle.
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So taking that to its logical conclusion, if it's so difficult to bring in new players to Scotland, when you have guys like Hooper and Ledley who wanted to stay, does it not make more sense to meet them halfway on salary rather than take the risk that we can't replace them? Plus, the lack of consistency of selection due to the sale of anyone of any value does the team no favours. Our philosophy I agree with, its implementation is all wrong. |
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| Zurawski 7 | 30 Aug 2014, 12:35 AM Post #2186 |
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not challenged on anything though. this pretty much sums up what he said http://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/spfl/lawwell-celtic-among-best-run-clubs-in-world-1-3525679
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| Quiet Assasin | 30 Aug 2014, 12:37 AM Post #2187 |
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..for the maintenance of dinner tables for the children and the unemployed
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I'm going to Dropkick this tadger |
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| Bob Loblaw | 30 Aug 2014, 12:39 AM Post #2188 |
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Off treasure hunting in Holland
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If we offered van Dijk a new £50k a week contract he'd want to stay. This is all hypothetical really though, we're not going to be able to offer more than the clubs in the bigger leagues
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| Winds of Change CSC | 30 Aug 2014, 12:42 AM Post #2189 |
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FFS I promised myself that I would on no account watch the pish being peddled by Lord Charlatan of Parkhead. A bottle of wine later and it was too late, the damage was done. What a deluded pumpkin this man is to come out with the absolute shampoo he has and expect us as a support to believe anything he says. Total garbage he was spouting, lies even, incredible, even for him. What is clear is that more and more of our support are finally seeing right through this clown and his patronising pish, I am hearing less and less these days from his usual apologists. He has sold us down the river along with the family silver and then tells us we are all too dumb to understand!!! Your right there Pedro, we were indeed dumb, dumb to believe anything you ever said. Just GTF and take your pathetic hyperbole with you. |
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| antrimkev | 30 Aug 2014, 12:45 AM Post #2190 |
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First-team starter
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was that not the interview he done on Celtic TV? I though he was going to answer a few unscripted questions on clyde? |
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| Zurawski 7 | 30 Aug 2014, 12:50 AM Post #2191 |
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More guff. some of it valid of course but still no excuse for not strenghtening before the qualifiers this summer.
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| lennox11 | 30 Aug 2014, 01:14 AM Post #2192 |
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Dazed and Confused...For so long it's not true!
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I think Lawwell is the easy target in all of this. I'm not the biggest fan of all the decisions that have been made over the past few seasons but I feel that regardless of what lawwell said yesterday, people would (rightly or wrongly) find fault with it. We all look for scapegoats after defeats. The majority of folk are (in my opinion) rightly not rounding on the manager yet. So that frustration needs to be levelled at someone. Due to the anarchic nature of a sizable number of football fans, it's a logical process to turn on the guy who controls the purse strings and who himself gets a more than modest living from the club. I don't know what the guy does, day in day out, but if we want to be a successful club on and off the pitch you need someone with a bit of business acumen and he seems to have that. I have noticed a number of really emotive and impassioned posts here particularly since Tuesday. For those who lived through the 90s, there is a tacit understanding that although it's not fabulous at the minute, it's been worse. It may improve this season, and indeed before Tuesday I think there were many of us who could see green shoots of progress. Maybe the perceived lack of funding that drove Lenny and Johan away was because the board were unhappy with the waste of money on players such as balde, big derk, pukki, murphy, and murphy. It's funny how for some celtic fans these problems are not lenny's for picking them, but that it was lawwell's for limiting him to certain amounts of cash. I think, personally, he spoke as much truth about the financial state of the club as you'd comfortably want to be known by everyone. Don't want to be seen to be the token fan who is seen to be taken in by the club's 'propaganda'. I just think we could all benefit from a little perspective. Lawwell is turning into a pantomime villain; an opinion which is peddled by some rather unhelpful ex celts in the media. It's fine to criticise, but I feel that the unrelenting criticism is a bit much. Edited by lennox11, 30 Aug 2014, 01:16 AM.
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| Zurawski 7 | 30 Aug 2014, 01:22 AM Post #2193 |
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its not scapegoating in the slightest. that insinuates the benefit of hindsight when in actual fact all summer long the vast majority of people knew we would struggle to qualify without improving our strikeforce. lawwell would have a damn cheek slating lennons signings also when he continually missed out on his top targets not to mention the fact that lennon doing wonders in devoloping his signings led to us operating on a profit in the transfer market for the last 4 years. what other celtic manager has ever operated on a minus net spend? celtic would be in a pretty sorry state right but for lennons dealings in the transfer market and money brought in through european participation |
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| Broadsword | 30 Aug 2014, 01:30 AM Post #2194 |
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Can I have 12 bottles of bleach please?
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From my reading, Lawwell was happy enough to quote figures for Martin O'Neill, Gordon Strachan and Tony Mowbray. I find it curious that he was not so forthcoming with regards to the current manager in this respect. He is either unable or unwilling to back him; certainly as far as CL qualification is concerned. |
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| garyg71 | 30 Aug 2014, 01:32 AM Post #2195 |
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It doesn't matter if Lawell goes or stays,if we get another CE in,it will still be the same. I have no idea where the supporters think the money is coming from! We now have 36,000 season ticket holders,and how many of them are kids tickets? We had well over 50,000 at one point and still struggled to bring in top players. We can only attract players if we pay them the going rate. That is very difficult in our league. Impossible job(although I would love the bonus) We all want to be a champions league team,but how can you attract players with a promise of 6 big games a season,maybe 2more. We are in a shampoo league,that's the problem. |
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| lennox11 | 30 Aug 2014, 01:35 AM Post #2196 |
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Dazed and Confused...For so long it's not true!
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I wasn't starting a black and white discussion on the merits of lenny's signings. Neil Lennon did fabulous things for our club, but he is not without fault with regards to transfer policy over the past season and a half. The grey areas to me in all of this are that we don't know for sure that lawwell 'failed' to bring in players neil identified. If there was a failure to bring them in, perhaps it's due to the league we are playing in, and the lack of tv money to broker some top level players contracts. I just think a number of celtic fans choose the easy option and criticise lawwell at every turn, whether it's deserved or not. With reegards to signings, I'm like everyone and would have loved to have had he business done earlier on. But for whatever reason (whether it was due to World Cup, celtic's lack of appeal to a certain calibre of player, or simply celtic dragging their heels) it hasn't happened. Perhaps celtic lucked out in the previous two seasons and that has masked the deficincies of our model. We didn't really strengthen until after qualification for the past two years, maybe we thought the same would work again this season? But who knows really? Like the majority of celtic fans I am merely speculating. |
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| Dewey | 30 Aug 2014, 01:37 AM Post #2197 |
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Personal abuse? Lawwell GTF is strictly business, yo. Nothing personal. Some of his "customers" want him--the over-compensated, patronising, squad-decimating Director of
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| Dewey | 30 Aug 2014, 01:58 AM Post #2198 |
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To sum up Lawwell's interview: Regarding disgruntled supporters: they either don't understand the facts, or don't care about facts. Dumb or deluded. Regarding the board: he enjoys working for the board. Regarding Dermot Desmond: that's where his loyalty lies. Thanks for saying that so neatly and transparently, Pedro. |
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| garyg71 | 30 Aug 2014, 02:08 AM Post #2199 |
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I would love to know where all this Money is coming from?" |
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| Mubo Loravcik | 30 Aug 2014, 02:43 AM Post #2200 |
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Retired and now a BT Sports pundit
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A genuinely laughable interview with Lawwell there, the same old cliches and of course he uses the Ross McCormack deal as part of his 'reasoning' .Here's a question for you Peter: Why did the board feel it was in the best interest of Celtic Football Club, and its new manager Ronny Deila, to spend exactly zero pounds on transfer fees ahead of the crucially important Champions League play off round against NK Maribor? |
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