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The Board - general discussion (including Res 12); notes from the AGM
Topic Started: 15 Jul 2014, 12:03 AM (1,414,916 Views)
murphio
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ssmith81
29 Aug 2014, 07:55 PM
Did he actually try and use Rangers and Hearts admins an example of us being well run? Two of the most mis-managed clubs in recent British history?
No but he did admit that this standalone strategy we have to live without Rangers is to sell our best players..... :nono:
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Sean67
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Thought the PL interview was fine and exactly what I'd expect. It wasn't patronising or untruthful, I do wonder how much money we have though and hope we can fully fund the ambitions we all have for our great club. I'm more than willing to give RD the time he needs to put his vision for attractive fast paced attacking football in place, and am encouraged by the views he has, as expressed by the latest Celtic Underground podcast. Europe league is our level this year, and truthful was last year too. Hopefully Champions League will be our level next year.
Edited by Sean67, 29 Aug 2014, 08:02 PM.
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Locky255
29 Aug 2014, 06:24 PM
PL on STV in an interview on having too much influence on football matters:

"All football matters are decided by the football manager... particularly signing players. Catagorically I don't sign players, John Park doesn't sign players. Ultimately it's the manager"
He actually expects us to believe that when we had Gordon before we had a effing manager!!?? :lol: :rubeyes:

Truly shows just how thick they think we are.
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I'm sick of Lawwell, he is a lying, patronising crook.

I'm passed caring now. It's too little too late, there's been far too many happy clappers in the Celtic support for years now - refusing to see year on year our club get destroyed through greed. Just out of sheer luck the likes of Wanyama, Hooper and Forster turned out to be decent - can you imagine the mess we'd be in if they turned out to be like the players that were scouted by the same scouts and signed for a similar fee?

There's no "model", selling a player for £12 million then replacing him with an unproven £900k player is not a "model" - we've just sold a effing £12 million rated player and replaced him with a player not even deemed to be worth a million pounds.

That protests against Maribor were stupid as well. Do you think he cares? The same chants could be heard when Legia Warsaw were pumping us at 'home' and everyone, including myself, thought Lawwell would be bricking it - was he? Naw, what did he do when his career was seemingly saved by anthers mishap? Further weakened a pathetic team by selling our best player.

I'm utterly disgusted with everything about Celtic now. Lawwell hates fans that try to start atmospheres, he's destroying the club. The team is infested with cowards. Players who became legends at Celtic are rejecting managerial posts. It's just depressing.
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Sean67
29 Aug 2014, 08:01 PM
Thought the PL interview was fine and exactly what I'd expect. It wasn't patronising or untruthful, I do wonder how much money we have though and hope we can fully fund the ambitions we all have for our great club. I'm more than willing to give RD the time he needs to put his vision for attractive fast paced attacking football in place, and am encouraged by the views he has, as expressed by the latest Celtic Underground podcast. Europe league is our level this year, and truthful was last year too. Hopefully Champions League will be our level next year.
If we are skint he should come out and say we are skint instead of peddling 6 million for a player and record proifits.

be honest with the support don't be a lying fud to boost your ego
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murphio
29 Aug 2014, 07:28 PM
paulfg42
29 Aug 2014, 07:22 PM
murphio
29 Aug 2014, 07:15 PM

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Agreed. That's why that's the first area of the club that needs a complete rethink.

I'm not asking for an £8 million player. I want to see players who can control a ball and keep possession under pressure. That would be a big improvement on what we have now.
Totally agree. We brought in Johansen as a playmaker and his passing is woeful. That is the one player you want to be able to keep the ball - and he loses it constantly.
if Johansen was brought in as a playmaker, the scouting is genuinely worse than I thought!
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murphio
29 Aug 2014, 08:00 PM
ssmith81
29 Aug 2014, 07:55 PM
Did he actually try and use Rangers and Hearts admins an example of us being well run? Two of the most mis-managed clubs in recent British history?
No but he did admit that this standalone strategy we have to live without Rangers is to sell our best players..... :nono:
I am hoping to god that he's making this up. What happened to always budgeting for the Europa etc? We have been well and truly stitched as a support.
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Sean67
29 Aug 2014, 08:01 PM
Thought the PL interview was fine and exactly what I'd expect. It wasn't patronising or untruthful, I do wonder how much money we have though and hope we can fully fund the ambitions we all have for our great club. I'm more than willing to give RD the time he needs to put his vision for attractive fast paced attacking football in place, and am encouraged by the views he has, as expressed by the latest Celtic Underground podcast. Europe league is our level this year, and truthful was last year too. Hopefully Champions League will be our level next year.
Hi Peter. :clap:
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murphio
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herbert viola
29 Aug 2014, 08:07 PM
murphio
29 Aug 2014, 07:28 PM
paulfg42
29 Aug 2014, 07:22 PM

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Totally agree. We brought in Johansen as a playmaker and his passing is woeful. That is the one player you want to be able to keep the ball - and he loses it constantly.
if Johansen was brought in as a playmaker, the scouting is genuinely worse than I thought!
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STEFAN JOHANSEN reckons he can be the playmaker Celtic boss Neil Lennon has been looking for.

The Hoops boss wanted to add a bit of midfield creativity in this month’s transfer window and the £1.9million signing from Stromsgodset believes he can provide it.

The Norwegian said: “My role has been either as a deep playmaker or a central midfielder – so I would guess it will be one of those two for Celtic.

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murphio
29 Aug 2014, 08:09 PM
herbert viola
29 Aug 2014, 08:07 PM
murphio
29 Aug 2014, 07:28 PM

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if Johansen was brought in as a playmaker, the scouting is genuinely worse than I thought!
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STEFAN JOHANSEN reckons he can be the playmaker Celtic boss Neil Lennon has been looking for.

The Hoops boss wanted to add a bit of midfield creativity in this month’s transfer window and the £1.9million signing from Stromsgodset believes he can provide it.

The Norwegian said: “My role has been either as a deep playmaker or a central midfielder – so I would guess it will be one of those two for Celtic.

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I'm pretty sure Mulgrew sees himself as the next Sinisa Mihilovic but what he thinks and the rest of us, including the manager, thinks is totally different.
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herbert viola
29 Aug 2014, 08:09 PM
Sean67
29 Aug 2014, 08:01 PM
Thought the PL interview was fine and exactly what I'd expect. It wasn't patronising or untruthful, I do wonder how much money we have though and hope we can fully fund the ambitions we all have for our great club. I'm more than willing to give RD the time he needs to put his vision for attractive fast paced attacking football in place, and am encouraged by the views he has, as expressed by the latest Celtic Underground podcast. Europe league is our level this year, and truthful was last year too. Hopefully Champions League will be our level next year.
Hi Peter. :clap:
If only I had his money my driveway would be in so much better shape. :worthy:
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Neil Jung
29 Aug 2014, 08:15 PM
murphio
29 Aug 2014, 08:09 PM
herbert viola
29 Aug 2014, 08:07 PM

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STEFAN JOHANSEN reckons he can be the playmaker Celtic boss Neil Lennon has been looking for.

The Hoops boss wanted to add a bit of midfield creativity in this month’s transfer window and the £1.9million signing from Stromsgodset believes he can provide it.

The Norwegian said: “My role has been either as a deep playmaker or a central midfielder – so I would guess it will be one of those two for Celtic.

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I'm pretty sure Mulgrew sees himself as the next Sinisa Mihilovic but what he thinks and the rest of us, including the manager, thinks is totally different.
Johansen was a playmaker for Stromsget. That was where we scouted him. I don't think he looks close to being capable of playing that type of role for us - his passing and ball control just isn't up to it.
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Sean67
29 Aug 2014, 08:01 PM
Thought the PL interview was fine and exactly what I'd expect. It wasn't patronising or untruthful, I do wonder how much money we have though and hope we can fully fund the ambitions we all have for our great club. I'm more than willing to give RD the time he needs to put his vision for attractive fast paced attacking football in place, and am encouraged by the views he has, as expressed by the latest Celtic Underground podcast. Europe league is our level this year, and truthful was last year too. Hopefully Champions League will be our level next year.
Lawwell's interview makes me puke http://glasgow.stv.tv/156826/
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murphio
29 Aug 2014, 06:06 PM
Here is a great piece from Donal og Cusack who is a Cork hurler and Celtic fan. His words probably sum up how a lot of us feel.
Why I have fallen out of love with Celtic
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This last few weeks it’s been hard to watch Celtic. The romance and the ambition and the vision have all been stripped away, writes Donal Óg Cusack.

Two weeks before I made my debut for Cork in 1999, I went to Jimmy Barry-Murphy with what I regarded as a very serious problem.

To be fair to Jimmy, he understood the nature of the problem, and he knew how to handle it. He said to go ahead and do what I needed to do. He said it was probably best to just keep quiet about it afterwards. I saw where he was coming from and agreed. That was the way to handle it.

It was a delicate business. If I were managing a team now, and a young fella came to me with the same problem, I know I wouldn’t so understanding. It wasn’t a weekend of mental calm and preparation I was thinking of. Back in 1999, I needed to go to the Scottish Cup final between Celtic and Rangers. No place for faint hearts.

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Not that there's any comparison between the current side and the team he loved watching ten or fifteen years ago, but that reads a lot like an older guy who doesn't go out on the lash as much anymore sort of drifting away from the thing that him and his young pals used to look to as a vehicle for going out on the lash.

I'm sure people have been falling out of love with Celtic for years, I know a few of them, and garbage like we're being served up right now sure doesn't help. But even the writer notes that in his heyday the game might have been the low point of the entire weekend.
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What got me most with that interview was every penny is invested in the club. I.e. Not the football team but the club. So he takes 1 million a year and is seen a legitimate expenditure as it is investing in the club. Invest in the team, not the club.
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Sean67
29 Aug 2014, 08:01 PM
Thought the PL interview was fine and exactly what I'd expect. It wasn't patronising or untruthful, I do wonder how much money we have though and hope we can fully fund the ambitions we all have for our great club. I'm more than willing to give RD the time he needs to put his vision for attractive fast paced attacking football in place, and am encouraged by the views he has, as expressed by the latest Celtic Underground podcast. Europe league is our level this year, and truthful was last year too. Hopefully Champions League will be our level next year.
It was extremely patronising and untruthful.

He said that the manager - and no-one else, especially not himself or John Park - makes football decisions. How that tallies with Craig Gordon being signed before the ink was dry on Ronny Deila's contract, I'm not sure :ponder:

Also, the nonsense about how we could pay £6million for a striker but it's the wages which prevents us from signing him. Well, we had a £6million stiker - and by all accounts it wouldn't have cost £50,000 p/w to keep him here.
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29 Aug 2014, 08:55 PM
Sean67
29 Aug 2014, 08:01 PM
Thought the PL interview was fine and exactly what I'd expect. It wasn't patronising or untruthful, I do wonder how much money we have though and hope we can fully fund the ambitions we all have for our great club. I'm more than willing to give RD the time he needs to put his vision for attractive fast paced attacking football in place, and am encouraged by the views he has, as expressed by the latest Celtic Underground podcast. Europe league is our level this year, and truthful was last year too. Hopefully Champions League will be our level next year.
It was extremely patronising and untruthful.

He said that the manager - and no-one else, especially not himself or John Park - makes football decisions. How that tallies with Craig Gordon being signed before the ink was dry on Ronny Deila's contract, I'm not sure :ponder:

Also, the nonsense about how we could pay £6million for a striker but it's the wages which prevents us from signing him. Well, we had a £6million stiker - and by all accounts it wouldn't have cost £50,000 p/w to keep him here.
The signings of Pukki & Balde prove what a liar this man is. They clearly were not the managers choices as he rarely picked them. He even picked Stokes ( a player he previously didn't trust in big games) ahead of these clowns.
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Just my humble opinion but there is something seriously wrong with that man and anyone who isn't repulsed by him. If he was a hun we'd be raging at the pathetic soft questions he was given. Our managers have to deal with much more on a weekly basis.
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really angering and condescending pish as usual. noone is asking for spend spend spend or 8million players (which the clown said we could afford and noone believed anyway). its not too much to ask for a few decent signings before the qualifiers

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Not entirely sure context of interview or line of questioning but despite not being exactly overly enamoured by Deila I think most Celtic fans are more concerned by the failings of Lawwell and lack of investment in the team. It wasn't a vote of confidence in Deila I was wanting from Lawwell but an admittance from him that he had completely fecked up the signing policy for this year.

For him to brings the sons and cousins of William into it and for the club to moan about the struggles they have in attracting players is an admittance that Lawwell isn't doing his job. In my job I don't always have the best product to sell but I still convince more people than not that my company is the right choice and that we bring other things to the table. By signing so many second rate loan signings Lawwell is achieving very little and continues to abuse his position and the good will of the fans. He is now nothing more than an embarrassment of a man.
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