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Generic SPFL Thread; all the other stuff
Topic Started: 5 Apr 2014, 05:29 PM (152,746 Views)
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remy mcswain
29 Dec 2014, 11:28 PM
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29 Dec 2014, 11:20 PM
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29 Dec 2014, 11:00 PM

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So far? I believe it was at £1.4m after about a year of collections.
No chance the Hibs fans will raise £2.5m then.
That was my thinking, unless a wealthy supporter buys them but then it's not quite "fan ownership".
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So far? I believe it was at £1.4m after about a year of collections.
No chance the Hibs fans will raise £2.5m then.
But they'll do it in great style, in a way that will leave a legacy of style for years to come in the minds of those who understand the importance of style.
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Perhaps Hibs should fire off a couple of emails to David Bowie and Iggy Pop; seen as how their fans spend most of their time at games dry-riding each other about them.
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Broadsword
30 Dec 2014, 08:00 AM
Perhaps Hibs should fire off a couple of emails to David Bowie and Iggy Pop; seen as how their fans spend most of their time at games dry-riding each other about them.
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30 Dec 2014, 08:07 AM
Broadsword
30 Dec 2014, 08:00 AM
Perhaps Hibs should fire off a couple of emails to David Bowie and Iggy Pop; seen as how their fans spend most of their time at games dry-riding each other about them.
Ziggy Pop
I don't see the relevance of Grange Hill in this matter.
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30 Dec 2014, 07:38 AM
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29 Dec 2014, 11:28 PM
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29 Dec 2014, 11:20 PM

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No chance the Hibs fans will raise £2.5m then.
But they'll do it in great style, in a way that will leave a legacy of style for years to come in the minds of those who understand the importance of style.
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29 Dec 2014, 10:35 PM
Petrie to sell majority stake to Hibs fans

Hibs official statement

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Today the Board of Hibernian Football Club is announcing its intention that supporters will have the opportunity to own up to 51% of the shares in the Club. All money raised from supporters through this process will go direct into the Club, to help fund sporting ambition.

Money raised will not be used to buy shares from existing shareholders. Instead, the money raised will go into the Club in return for new shares. Existing shareholders, including the holding company, will retain their existing shares but their percentage ownership of the Club will be reduced as new shares are issued. New shares up to the value of £2.5m will be made available so that over time the holding company's ownership will be diluted to less than 50% of the enlarged share capital of the Club.

The home of Hibernian Football Club is Easter Road Stadium. The Club has also created a state of the art Training Centre. The property assets were valued at more than £25m in July 2014 on a depreciated replacement cost basis. It is a fundamental part of the Board's strategy that Easter Road Stadium and the Hibernian Training Centre will continue to be owned by the Club.

Accordingly, supporters will have the opportunity to own shares in the Club which in turn owns Easter Road Stadium and the Training Centre and has received the cash raised by supporters.

The plan enjoys the support of Hibernian legend Pat Stanton.

The Club is pleased to confirm that it has agreed a settlement with Bank of Scotland and that the Club is now free of Bank debt. That settlement was funded by new loans provided by the holding company to the Club and by a payment made direct to the Bank. The fixed securities held by the Bank over Easter Road Stadium and the Hibernian Training Centre have been released.

Following the settlement with the Bank, the holding company has agreed to halve the Club’s debt by converting £4.5 million of loans into new ordinary shares in the Club. A formal written resolution to give effect to this will be sent to shareholders with the papers for the AGM. The remaining loans will be refinanced as a single £5m mortgage provided by the holding company on terms acceptable to the Club.

To underpin this commitment to wider supporter involvement and ownership, two new Non-Executive Directors are being elected directly by supporters. The election process amongst the 17 candidates is underway and the two new directors will be in place by the time of the AGM on 28 January 2015.

The Board is making these commitments following a full consultation with supporters both at a series of supporter meetings attended by over 500 supporters and based on the results of an online survey of the views of almost 4,000 supporters.

The Board will be sending details of its plans to shareholders in the second week in January in advance of the AGM.

Club Chairman Rod Petrie said: “The environment of Scottish football is changing including a working group set up by the Scottish Government to look at supporter involvement with football clubs. After extensive consultations with supporters we have decided on the Hibernian Way, the right way forward for Hibernian Football Club.

“Supporters will have the opportunity to contribute directly to their Club. The more supporters contribute then the more of the Club they will own. And by owning the Club they will also own Easter Road Stadium and the Training Centre and the cash they raise.”

Leeann Dempster added: “The Board’s plan is radical, a real first in Scottish football. I think it’s daring, exciting and we now need all supporters to rally behind the plan and take the Club forward on a united footing. The opportunity exists, and now it’s up to all of us to take it and make it work.

“Supporters should not lose sight of the fact that the one thing they can always do to support the Club in its ambitions is to come along to games and support the team – through buying Season Tickets, through walk-up and through buying merchandise from the club store.

“Hibernian supporters are rightly proud of the Club and its history, and I want to assure them that the plans we have will make them even prouder in future.”

Pat Stanton said: “A lot of people have come forward since relegation, and they’ve done so because they care passionately about our Club. A lot has been said, and now it is the time to get behind the team, and support this plan. As far as I am concerned, the plan gives people what they have been telling me they want, a much greater stake in their Club.

“I am particularly delighted that the stadium and training centre will remain in the ownership of the Club, and therefore the supporters. I would urge supporters to look at what is being proposed, and I think they will find it to their liking.

“Things also look to be going in the right direction where it matters most, on the park, and I would urge everyone to unite behind the Club.”

Head Coach Alan Stubbs added: “I think supporters will really embrace the opportunity to have such a stake in their Club, and I echo Pat’s sentiments that we all need to unite behind the Club now. If we do, we can progress even faster.”
You see, that's why a club and a holding company aren't the same thing. A club is a company (usually, and exclusively in the case of league clubs), and a holding company is a separate company that owns shares in the club. If only fans of Scotland's newest league club could understand that distinction.
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Apparently Paul Ince has put himself forward for the st mirren and Hamilton jobs :rubeyes:
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Gennaro Gattuso applied for the Hamilton job. If they give it to him over Martin Canning then they've truly lost the plot.

Guy's lasted a matter of months in his other jobs and bombed in all of them.
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20 Jan 2015, 12:04 PM
Gennaro Gattuso applied for the Hamilton job. If they give it to him over Martin Canning then they've truly lost the plot.

Guy's lasted a matter of months in his other jobs and bombed in all of them.
I saw something about him having sent in "a very impressive CV", and did wonder whose CV it was that he'd sent :lol:
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15 Aug 2014, 04:19 AM
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15 Aug 2014, 02:00 AM
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KRIS BOYD reckons Rangers will be the only team capable of winning the SPFL Championship if they can find their best form.

The Light Blues have so far been erratic in 2014/15, with good moments against Hibs and Hearts matches by the quantity of poorer ones.
Both Edinburgh sides and the likes of tomorrow’s SPFL Championship opponents Falkirk will feel they can challenge for the title having seen Gers stutter.
But Boyd is adamant the Ibrox outfit can pull clear at the top if they click into gear and demonstrate the talent their pool clearly has.
He said: “For us, I think there’s only one (team which can win the Championship). That’s the way we’ve got to look at it.
“If we play the way we can, I don’t think there’s anybody who can stop us but what I will say is we’ve seen in the last couple of games it’s not going to be easy.


Well lads, the season's over.
That'll be pinned up on a few opposition dressing room walls for the season. Not the brightest is old Kris.
Young Kris was a dumpling tae.
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Interesting proposals for the league cup.

Need to do 'something' with it.
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Interesting proposals for the league cup.

Need to do 'something' with it.
Giving it a european spot for the winner would be a start, would also like to see it finished up before the new year and have a winters break after it.
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20 Jan 2015, 02:50 PM
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20 Jan 2015, 02:40 PM
Interesting proposals for the league cup.

Need to do 'something' with it.
Giving it a european spot for the winner would be a start, would also like to see it finished up before the new year and have a winters break after it.
Nope. A team which manages to fluke its way to a cup final pre-Christmas should not get a European place at the expense of a team which finishes - say - third in the league (Motherwell's humiliating recent forays notwithstanding). Our co-efficient is bad enough as it is. We need to ensure the best teams get into Europe.
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20 Jan 2015, 02:40 PM
Interesting proposals for the league cup.

Need to do 'something' with it.
Giving it a european spot for the winner would be a start, would also like to see it finished up before the new year and have a winters break after it.
Nope. A team which manages to fluke its way to a cup final pre-Christmas should not get a European place at the expense of a team which finishes - say - third in the league (Motherwell's humiliating recent forays notwithstanding). Our co-efficient is bad enough as it is. We need to ensure the best teams get into Europe.
The winner only (place doesnt go to runner up) gets the last european spot, the likely hood is that the winner of the cup will finish in the top 2 of the league anyway therefore 3rd in the league would get the spot
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Nope. A team which manages to fluke its way to a cup final pre-Christmas should not get a European place at the expense of a team which finishes - say - third in the league (Motherwell's humiliating recent forays notwithstanding). Our co-efficient is bad enough as it is. We need to ensure the best teams get into Europe.
The winner only (place doesnt go to runner up) gets the last european spot, the likely hood is that the winner of the cup will finish in the top 2 of the league anyway therefore 3rd in the league would get the spot
Based on our current 4 European places, in some seasons that could leave one place for Europa League qualification through the 38 game league season, in favour of a tertiary cup competition.

Given that clubs already IN Europe get a by from the first round of the League Cup (Round 3 in reality I think), then a team could theoretically qualify for Europe having played a last 16 tie, a QF, SF and Final in a tournament that is seeded until the semi finals, but finish 8th or something in the League.

All that would simply make the League have even less going for it, and even more pish. Swings and roundabouts.

There'll be about 80,000 people at the League Cup semi finals and a full house at the final. No one is pretending its great, but it's as good as it's realistically going to be, potential rescheduling aside.
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The winner only (place doesnt go to runner up) gets the last european spot, the likely hood is that the winner of the cup will finish in the top 2 of the league anyway therefore 3rd in the league would get the spot
Based on our current 4 European places, in some seasons that could leave one place for Europa League qualification through the 38 game league season, in favour of a tertiary cup competition.

Given that clubs already IN Europe get a by from the first round of the League Cup (Round 3 in reality I think), then a team could theoretically qualify for Europe having played a last 16 tie, a QF, SF and Final in a tournament that is seeded until the semi finals, but finish 8th or something in the League.

All that would simply make the League have even less going for it, and even more pish. Swings and roundabouts.

There'll be about 80,000 people at the League Cup semi finals and a full house at the final. No one is pretending its great, but it's as good as it's realistically going to be, potential rescheduling aside.
:thumbsup:

I do think there is some merit in the idea of playing the final around Christmas time. It would give Scottish football a timely spectacle during the festive season. But I wouldn't give it a European spot.
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Based on our current 4 European places, in some seasons that could leave one place for Europa League qualification through the 38 game league season, in favour of a tertiary cup competition.

Given that clubs already IN Europe get a by from the first round of the League Cup (Round 3 in reality I think), then a team could theoretically qualify for Europe having played a last 16 tie, a QF, SF and Final in a tournament that is seeded until the semi finals, but finish 8th or something in the League.

All that would simply make the League have even less going for it, and even more pish. Swings and roundabouts.

There'll be about 80,000 people at the League Cup semi finals and a full house at the final. No one is pretending its great, but it's as good as it's realistically going to be, potential rescheduling aside.
:thumbsup:

I do think there is some merit in the idea of playing the final around Christmas time. It would give Scottish football a timely spectacle during the festive season. But I wouldn't give it a European spot.
In my youth it felt like the League Cup was more interesting when the final was in late November. But then again, everything seemed simpler and more interesting then, and its not as if there is a dearth of sepia-tinged reminiscence of better days when it comes to Scottish football.

They had to reschedule the League Cup format because of the growth of European competitions and the emergence of tedious international "weekends" cannibalising the football calendar. I'm not sure there is any scope for getting it in before Christmas. As it is, March is probably a more agreeable time for a Cup Final than November, but the big gap from QF to SF to Final is a bit of a nonsense. Albeit one without any probable solution.
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Billy McKay leaving ICT on a free at the end of the season

Big loss for them
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Billy McKay leaving ICT on a free at the end of the season

Big loss for them
Hearts are after him and Marley Watkins as well.
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