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Generic SPFL Thread; all the other stuff
Topic Started: 5 Apr 2014, 05:29 PM (152,751 Views)
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Summer leagues. The thing you don't currently have or have not tried, so the thing that immediately becomes the cure all. No thanks.
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daleybhoy
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Summer football would be pish. It would just be confirmation that were happy to be a footballing backwater.

I also don't want to watch football all summer, I've got better things to do like holidays and beer gardens and those millions of chores wives somehow discover as soon as the sun comes out. I also love watching as much football as possible during autumn and winter when there's eff all else happening and the football gets you through those long months.

There's no guarantee the football or the players would be better. No serious footballer would come as it interferes with the big International competitions. We'd lose money from all the big pre-season friendlies.

Even if it did help with Euro qualification (which considering the amount of Scandinavian teams we've beaten in last few years there's no real evidence it does) it would absolutely eff us come February if we get to later stages in Europe.

Who are these Irish teams that are out-performing us? You mean they get to qualifying round 2/3 instead of 1/2 - woop-de-effing-doo.
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Tim Waits
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You know where they play soccer in the summer?

America.

You're better than that.

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lenobhoy
18 Jul 2014, 08:35 AM
I don't think summer football will be a goer here, school holidays = lower attendances, weather can still be pish, too many competing sports on @ the same time & just think of winter in Scotland without football. By all means start early & have a winter break (won't mean better conditions but rest from continual playing/recovery for injuries) but summer football isn't a fix to shampooe coaching & footballers who can't trap a ball.
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Nail on heid
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remy mcswain
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Tim Waits
18 Jul 2014, 02:19 PM
You know where they play soccer in the summer?

America.

You're better than that.

As daleybhoy said, it's for "footballing backwater(s)". Cheers for confirming TW :thumbsup:
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Tim Waits
18 Jul 2014, 02:19 PM
You know where they play soccer in the summer?

America.

You're better than that.

Dunno, one of your soccer squads just touch downed a Scottish institution on a 'Football' pitch by 3 scores to 1 score.
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The Russians seem to have been doing worse since they switched to a summer break.
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Tim Waits
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Wailer
18 Jul 2014, 02:29 PM
Tim Waits
18 Jul 2014, 02:19 PM
You know where they play soccer in the summer?

America.

You're better than that.

Dunno, one of your soccer squads just touch downed a Scottish institution on a 'Football' pitch by 3 scores to 1 score.
It was egregious! The cage was yawning!

[confidential to Remy]yeah that was the joke, but thanks for bashing it right into the ground ya klutz[/confidential]
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we already have Summer football - the Champs League qualifiers :clap: :clap: :nono:
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Anyone that thinks that summer football wouldnt improve our game is one of them dinosaurs with their head in the sand. Give me a single valid reason that our game would be worse off.
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Irish football ( Northern and Republic ) is a hive of absolute shampooe. 1 or 2 freak results won't change that.

There is absolutely no necessity for us to switch to summer football. What needs to happen is ***** like Doncaster need to stop selling our game short and demand a better TV deal. Compare the money we get from TV companies to that of English Rugby League ( similar viewing figures ).

We are being sold short.
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goalsgallagher
19 Jul 2014, 11:37 AM
Anyone that thinks that summer football wouldnt improve our game is one of them dinosaurs with their head in the sand. Give me a single valid reason that our game would be worse off.
Millions flock to the golf. MILLIONS.
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playing summer football might not make willo flood a better player, but, if players at every level are playing the same seasonal game, then it should improve the game. we shouldnt be playing football in late december to february in scotland. the weather is too gash for it, and the pitches cant hold up. its not conducive to playing football on the ground in such pish weather. moving the game to some sort of calendar year, with a month off, or just less than that in June/July, is a sensible move.

moving the game to a period where the football is not played at the same time as much of europe wont make the game in scotland any more of a backwater than it already is. willo flood playing at a high level in it might, irrespective of what season we play in.
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goalsgallagher
19 Jul 2014, 11:37 AM
Anyone that thinks that summer football wouldnt improve our game is one of them dinosaurs with their head in the sand. Give me a single valid reason that our game would be worse off.
Oh aye, one of those dinosaurs with their head in the sand.
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I don't think we necessarily need summer football, but I do think the league should start much earlier and have a winter break in the middle. Something similar to Switzerland or Austria would be appropriate, where the league season starts this weekend, then they go on a break between mid December and the beginning of February. I'd say this is essential if we are to begin competing in Europe properly as a country.

Also don't understand the link between summer holidays and lack of attendance at football. Look at the crowds attending Aberdeen's matches in the Europa League. If anything expecting people to attend football when it's a howling gale and horizontal rain during December is more likely to reduce attendances.
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modest mouse
20 Jul 2014, 03:28 PM
I don't think we necessarily need summer football, but I do think the league should start much earlier and have a winter break in the middle. Something similar to Switzerland or Austria would be appropriate, where the league season starts this weekend, then they go on a break between mid December and the beginning of February. I'd say this is essential if we are to begin competing in Europe properly as a country.

Also don't understand the link between summer holidays and lack of attendance at football. Look at the crowds attending Aberdeen's matches in the Europa League. If anything expecting people to attend football when it's a howling gale and horizontal rain during December is more likely to reduce attendances.
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I'd even go for a kick off in June. Run through until mid December. Re start at the beginning of February and finish the season by April.

We'd get more money for a TV deal showing competitive football in June/July rather than the rash of preseason stuff that clutters up the TV at this time of year. Clearly we'd need to adjust in World Cup years, but we'll need to do that at the behest of FIFA for Qatar under the current set up.

Attendance is a red herring...we currently lose people every time we get the usual horizontal rain in December etc.

As for the "Willo Flood" defence...yes summer football won't turn him in to Messi. But anyone who thinks that a team that has played 10 or so competitive games doesn't have a competitive advantage over a team that is still effectively in preseason is kidding themselves.
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modest mouse
20 Jul 2014, 03:28 PM
I don't think we necessarily need summer football, but I do think the league should start much earlier and have a winter break in the middle. Something similar to Switzerland or Austria would be appropriate, where the league season starts this weekend, then they go on a break between mid December and the beginning of February. I'd say this is essential if we are to begin competing in Europe properly as a country.

Also don't understand the link between summer holidays and lack of attendance at football. Look at the crowds attending Aberdeen's matches in the Europa League. If anything expecting people to attend football when it's a howling gale and horizontal rain during December is more likely to reduce attendances.
Never understood the summer holidays = lower attendances either.

Surely if the kids are off it means higher attendances?

I don't have kids myself, but i reckon i'd run out of things for them to do each week over the summer holidays. If dad's, and mums, could guarantee a (fairly cheap) saturday afternoon of football, something that they and the kid(s) could do together and bond over I don't see why it wouldn't sell out.

Kids, more than ever, don't want to sit in the pishing cold in mid-December to watch a game of football.
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Just think of our games over winter last season. You'd rather that than watching in the summer?
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Luca
20 Jul 2014, 04:06 PM
modest mouse
20 Jul 2014, 03:28 PM
I don't think we necessarily need summer football, but I do think the league should start much earlier and have a winter break in the middle. Something similar to Switzerland or Austria would be appropriate, where the league season starts this weekend, then they go on a break between mid December and the beginning of February. I'd say this is essential if we are to begin competing in Europe properly as a country.

Also don't understand the link between summer holidays and lack of attendance at football. Look at the crowds attending Aberdeen's matches in the Europa League. If anything expecting people to attend football when it's a howling gale and horizontal rain during December is more likely to reduce attendances.
Never understood the summer holidays = lower attendances either.

Surely if the kids are off it means higher attendances?

I don't have kids myself, but i reckon i'd run out of things for them to do each week over the summer holidays. If dad's, and mums, could guarantee a (fairly cheap) saturday afternoon of football, something that they and the kid(s) could do together and bond over I don't see why it wouldn't sell out.

Kids, more than ever, don't want to sit in the pishing cold in mid-December to watch a game of football.
I think you are right,and Aberdeen got nearly 17k for a Europa qualifier recently. I think people writing summer football off attendance wise are maybe wrong. If the games are on people will come.
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The league which over achieves most in Europe these days is Portugal.

The reason for that is their immigration law and the short length of their season.
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