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Generic SPFL Thread; all the other stuff
Topic Started: 5 Apr 2014, 05:29 PM (152,758 Views)
Belgrano
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Luxo
1 Jul 2014, 03:33 PM
Interesting point re the pyramid system.

I think that means that certain clubs - Spartans, Hibs, Berwick Rangers all have (or had) two teams in the pyramid. Spartans reserves, HIbs EOS and Berwick Reserves all played in the East of Scotland league last year, which is the level below the Lowland League in the pyramid.

So... surely with this precedent being set, there is nothing to stop Celtic running a B team/youth team/Elite Development Squad/whatever - in the lower leagues of the pyramid. U20 clearly does not cover all our requirements, and our U17 have been playing in the U19 League for SFL clubs (and won it). We have a lot of young players who are unable to get game time - surely we could run a young team elsewhere in the Scottish pyramid and hopefully get them some meaningful action (especially if they progressed through the divisions?)
That's a good point. Essentially, de facto 'colt' teams have been approved, by encompassing such teams mentioned in the league pyramid.
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1 Jul 2014, 12:46 PM
remy mcswain
1 Jul 2014, 10:39 AM
tenerifetim
1 Jul 2014, 10:27 AM

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About €1m.

I'de bet anything the £3m for Gauld includes a wheen of add ons that will probably never be met.
Is it not £1.25m up front and the rest is add ons? At the price we should be in for him
Utd mate seems to think its 3m + add ons which surley cant be correct.

He is over the moon saying he hasnt kicked a ball since November.
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Can we ban the use of term 'colt'. Utter hunnery in terms of language.
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Belgrano
1 Jul 2014, 04:13 PM
Luxo
1 Jul 2014, 03:33 PM
Interesting point re the pyramid system.

I think that means that certain clubs - Spartans, Hibs, Berwick Rangers all have (or had) two teams in the pyramid. Spartans reserves, HIbs EOS and Berwick Reserves all played in the East of Scotland league last year, which is the level below the Lowland League in the pyramid.

So... surely with this precedent being set, there is nothing to stop Celtic running a B team/youth team/Elite Development Squad/whatever - in the lower leagues of the pyramid. U20 clearly does not cover all our requirements, and our U17 have been playing in the U19 League for SFL clubs (and won it). We have a lot of young players who are unable to get game time - surely we could run a young team elsewhere in the Scottish pyramid and hopefully get them some meaningful action (especially if they progressed through the divisions?)
That's a good point. Essentially, de facto 'colt' teams have been approved, by encompassing such teams mentioned in the league pyramid.
Is there relegation from the Lowland League? It was set up on an application basis rather than having automatically picking the top ranking teams.
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Aye, don't think that there's relegation at the moment.
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Broadsword
2 Jul 2014, 10:00 AM
Can we ban the use of term 'colt'. Utter hunnery in terms of language.
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2 Jul 2014, 10:18 AM
Belgrano
1 Jul 2014, 04:13 PM
Luxo
1 Jul 2014, 03:33 PM
Interesting point re the pyramid system.

I think that means that certain clubs - Spartans, Hibs, Berwick Rangers all have (or had) two teams in the pyramid. Spartans reserves, HIbs EOS and Berwick Reserves all played in the East of Scotland league last year, which is the level below the Lowland League in the pyramid.

So... surely with this precedent being set, there is nothing to stop Celtic running a B team/youth team/Elite Development Squad/whatever - in the lower leagues of the pyramid. U20 clearly does not cover all our requirements, and our U17 have been playing in the U19 League for SFL clubs (and won it). We have a lot of young players who are unable to get game time - surely we could run a young team elsewhere in the Scottish pyramid and hopefully get them some meaningful action (especially if they progressed through the divisions?)
That's a good point. Essentially, de facto 'colt' teams have been approved, by encompassing such teams mentioned in the league pyramid.
Is there relegation from the Lowland League? It was set up on an application basis rather than having automatically picking the top ranking teams.
There's no relegation from the highland league either I think.

So how does it work if, for example, a team from the highland league goes up and a southern team is relegated from the SPFL? Would the northern most lowland league team move across to the highland league to balance things out?
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Big Drew
2 Jul 2014, 11:25 AM
Broadsword
2 Jul 2014, 10:00 AM
Can we ban the use of term 'colt'. Utter hunnery in terms of language.
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Yeah I'm not feeling where the hatred is coming from.

I sometimes think people don't actually hate these words, they just notice them and have learned you're supposed to dislike new terms because they once heard Jeremy Clarkson disparage the word chillax.
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Luxo
1 Jul 2014, 03:33 PM
Interesting point re the pyramid system.

I think that means that certain clubs - Spartans, Hibs, Berwick Rangers all have (or had) two teams in the pyramid. Spartans reserves, HIbs EOS and Berwick Reserves all played in the East of Scotland league last year, which is the level below the Lowland League in the pyramid.

So... surely with this precedent being set, there is nothing to stop Celtic running a B team/youth team/Elite Development Squad/whatever - in the lower leagues of the pyramid. U20 clearly does not cover all our requirements, and our U17 have been playing in the U19 League for SFL clubs (and won it). We have a lot of young players who are unable to get game time - surely we could run a young team elsewhere in the Scottish pyramid and hopefully get them some meaningful action (especially if they progressed through the divisions?)
I dont see how that would benefit our youths at all, playing guys way way below their standard.
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2 Jul 2014, 11:25 AM
Broadsword
2 Jul 2014, 10:00 AM
Can we ban the use of term 'colt'. Utter hunnery in terms of language.
:ponder:
Yeah I'm not feeling where the hatred is coming from.

I sometimes think people don't actually hate these words, they just notice them and have learned you're supposed to dislike new terms because they once heard Jeremy Clarkson disparage the word chillax.
Just in my experience the term 'colt' has been synonymous with hun-like groups and individuals. 'B team' or 'development team' would be my preference.
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2 Jul 2014, 01:57 PM
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2 Jul 2014, 11:25 AM

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Yeah I'm not feeling where the hatred is coming from.

I sometimes think people don't actually hate these words, they just notice them and have learned you're supposed to dislike new terms because they once heard Jeremy Clarkson disparage the word chillax.
Just in my experience the term 'colt' has been synonymous with hun-like groups and individuals. 'B team' or 'development team' would be my preference.
:thumbsup: It was the term used by Green when he proposed putting their U20s and ours into Div 3.

Never used by tims.
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2 Jul 2014, 01:57 PM
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2 Jul 2014, 11:25 AM

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Yeah I'm not feeling where the hatred is coming from.

I sometimes think people don't actually hate these words, they just notice them and have learned you're supposed to dislike new terms because they once heard Jeremy Clarkson disparage the word chillax.
Just in my experience the term 'colt' has been synonymous with hun-like groups and individuals. 'B team' or 'development team' would be my preference.
Any examples? I've never heard anything about this.
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remy mcswain
2 Jul 2014, 01:59 PM
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2 Jul 2014, 01:57 PM
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2 Jul 2014, 01:48 PM

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Just in my experience the term 'colt' has been synonymous with hun-like groups and individuals. 'B team' or 'development team' would be my preference.
:thumbsup: It was the term used by Green when he proposed putting their U20s and ours into Div 3.

Never used by tims.
:rubeyes: :lol:
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Big Drew
2 Jul 2014, 02:00 PM
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2 Jul 2014, 01:57 PM
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2 Jul 2014, 01:48 PM

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Just in my experience the term 'colt' has been synonymous with hun-like groups and individuals. 'B team' or 'development team' would be my preference.
Any examples? I've never heard anything about this.
Remy's example is a good one in the public domain.

I used to ref a lot of youth football in and around Glasgow and used to encounter a few of them.

It is a tad pedantic on my part but my conscience rests beautifully knowing that I will never endorse that term.
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Tipsy Mcstagger
2 Jul 2014, 01:29 PM
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Belgrano
1 Jul 2014, 04:13 PM

Quoting limited to 3 levels deepde facto 'colt' teams have been approved, by encompassing such teams mentioned in the league pyramid.
Is there relegation from the Lowland League? It was set up on an application basis rather than having automatically picking the top ranking teams.
There's no relegation from the highland league either I think.

So how does it work if, for example, a team from the highland league goes up and a southern team is relegated from the SPFL? Would the northern most lowland league team move across to the highland league to balance things out?
The French pyramidal system has two nationwide amateur leagues divided in regional groups. Each season, these groups (4 in CFA, 8 in CFA2) are rearranged to take the various regions achievement into account. Hence, progressively a strong region like Britanny absorbed neighbouring teams going down. Other factors are sometimes used to reshape the groups, especially to avoid rival supporters clash (Red Star 93 moved from Greater Paris to the Western area after riots started by PSG fans in their reserve game, for instance). To be honest, it quickly becomes a geographical nonsense.

Below that, the regional leagues have to accommodate the teams going down. If there's none, they'll keep in their top division the relegated teams. If they get more teams back than they send to the nationwide leagues, they change the number of teams in one of their five tiers, also divided in subregional groups by the way.

So you have two solutions :
- move teams between regions to keep the same format.
- keep the geographical division, and accept to have different numbers of teams.
From experience, a complete review needs be done after a few years. However it should be easier to handle with two regional leagues only.
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2 Jul 2014, 02:05 PM
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2 Jul 2014, 01:57 PM

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Any examples? I've never heard anything about this.
Remy's example is a good one in the public domain.

I used to ref a lot of youth football in and around Glasgow and used to encounter a few of them.

It is a tad pedantic on my part but my conscience rests beautifully knowing that I will never endorse that term.
It's been a perfectly common name for youth teams in England for decades, where the vast majority of the population couldn't give a flying eff about the huns let alone be inspired by them. As Green is English, I'd imagine that he was well aware of the term years before he played his part in the ongoing soap opera over Ibrox way.
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WTF is a Petrofac trophy when it's at home?
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WTF is the Petrofac trophy? Is this the new Ramsden's :ponder:
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