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Topic Started: 5 Apr 2014, 05:29 PM (152,787 Views)
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26. Javier sanchez Broto
11 May 2014, 11:27 PM
It's an improvement on what Aberdeen have been doing for nearly 20 years, that said I'd like to know who has the 2nd biggest budget in the league.
I suspect probably Hibs :lol:
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J_C_X
11 May 2014, 09:15 PM
Aye. Viewing figures wouldn't jump with an exclusivity deal. Prior to the Aviva Premier League/BT deal Scottish football comfortably beats it for ratings on Sky and ESPN.
There's a huge difference between an exclusivity deal for rugby and for Scottish football though. Would more people subscribe to BT if they knew they'd get every SPL game? Probably a some would, yes. Nowhere near as many as for the Aviva rugby though.

The Aviva Premiership is basically the highest level of rugby you can watch in Europe (along with the Top 14) and rugby coverage is nowhere near as extensive as football. That means if you follow rugby to any extent you're likely to watch whatever Aviva Premiership game is on. If you're a Saracens fan you'll probably still watch the Harlequins game as you don't have an alternative and your still watching your favourite sport played at it's highest level.

In contrast most of us on here don't even watch the SPL unless Celtic are playing. If Motherwell and Aberdeen are on the TV most fans of the other 10 SPL teams are probably watching the EPL or Liga.

The benefits of getting exclusivity in each case are entirely different. The value of rugby rights is also boosted as it can be shown at 3pm on a Saturday when neither Sky or BT can show any football. We're not being short-changed by a TV deal. It goes out to commercial tender and it generates what the TV companies feel it's worth. Taking games off Sky wouldn't add 100,000+ viewers on BT - if it would they'd buy it.
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I wonder which pub team will hammer Motherwell eight nil in the first Europa League qualifier this year?
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tinytim81
11 May 2014, 11:46 PM
I wonder which pub team will hammer Motherwell eight nil in the first Europa League qualifier this year?
Hopefully they draw a team that wear Green, at least they'll try then.
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Motherwell were put out of the Uefa Cup by Levante, Panathiakos and a decent Russian side with a bit of cash, they had Cisse playing iirc?

It's hardly a disgrace to be beaten by those sides is it?

Hell of a lot better than Shaktar Karagandy who almost gave us a burst nose last year.
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26. Javier sanchez Broto
11 May 2014, 11:53 PM
Motherwell were put out of the Uefa Cup by Levante, Panathiakos and a decent Russian side with a bit of cash, they had Cisse playing iirc?

It's hardly a disgrace to be beaten by those sides is it?

Hell of a lot better than Shaktar Karagandy who almost gave us a burst nose last year.
Interesting. So, with all that in mind, I guess the real question is - which pub team will hammer Motherwell eight nil in the first Europa League qualifier this year?
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Manager of the year should have been Gary Locke. Took a team of boys and transformed them into a team that without an administration penalty, would have been safe in the league.
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26. Javier sanchez Broto
11 May 2014, 11:53 PM
Motherwell were put out of the Uefa Cup by Levante, Panathiakos and a decent Russian side with a bit of cash, they had Cisse playing iirc?

It's hardly a disgrace to be beaten by those sides is it?

Hell of a lot better than Shaktar Karagandy who almost gave us a burst nose last year.
Hello Mr. Cowan .
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Danny Lennon bumped oot the door
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TK57
12 May 2014, 12:55 PM
Danny Lennon bumped oot the door
Really, what the eff for? They're a tiny SPL club. Isn't this their highest league position in about twenty plus years? They won a trophy last year as well.

What is it the St Mirren board expect exactly? Serious question.
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Remember the "Lennon has been intervioewed for the St Mirren job" post from 2010? When it turned out to be Danny :lol:
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Lawlerm
11 May 2014, 11:45 PM
J_C_X
11 May 2014, 09:15 PM
Aye. Viewing figures wouldn't jump with an exclusivity deal. Prior to the Aviva Premier League/BT deal Scottish football comfortably beats it for ratings on Sky and ESPN.
There's a huge difference between an exclusivity deal for rugby and for Scottish football though. Would more people subscribe to BT if they knew they'd get every SPL game? Probably a some would, yes. Nowhere near as many as for the Aviva rugby though.

The Aviva Premiership is basically the highest level of rugby you can watch in Europe (along with the Top 14) and rugby coverage is nowhere near as extensive as football. That means if you follow rugby to any extent you're likely to watch whatever Aviva Premiership game is on. If you're a Saracens fan you'll probably still watch the Harlequins game as you don't have an alternative and your still watching your favourite sport played at it's highest level.

In contrast most of us on here don't even watch the SPL unless Celtic are playing. If Motherwell and Aberdeen are on the TV most fans of the other 10 SPL teams are probably watching the EPL or Liga.

The benefits of getting exclusivity in each case are entirely different. The value of rugby rights is also boosted as it can be shown at 3pm on a Saturday when neither Sky or BT can show any football. We're not being short-changed by a TV deal. It goes out to commercial tender and it generates what the TV companies feel it's worth. Taking games off Sky wouldn't add 100,000+ viewers on BT - if it would they'd buy it.
"It goes out to commercial tender and it generates what the TV companies feel it's worth"

Aye but Scottish football is hampered by having the EPL not only on our doorstep but in the same country. Countries of similar size to Scotland like Norway have TV deals worth 4 times than the Scottish one because the National broadcasters in Norway serve Norway only and don't serve say the Bundesliga as well.
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tinytim81
12 May 2014, 12:58 PM
TK57
12 May 2014, 12:55 PM
Danny Lennon bumped oot the door
Really, what the eff for? They're a tiny SPL club. Isn't this their highest league position in about twenty plus years? They won a trophy last year as well.

What is it the St Mirren board expect exactly? Serious question.
yep
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tinytim81
12 May 2014, 12:58 PM
TK57
12 May 2014, 12:55 PM
Danny Lennon bumped oot the door
Really, what the eff for? They're a tiny SPL club. Isn't this their highest league position in about twenty plus years? They won a trophy last year as well.

What is it the St Mirren board expect exactly? Serious question.
who knows


crazy decision
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Mental that Danny Lennon is getting booted out. Unless they have a better replacement that makes absolutely no sense: is he out of contract?
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26. Javier sanchez Broto
11 May 2014, 11:27 PM
It's an improvement on what Aberdeen have been doing for nearly 20 years, that said I'd like to know who has the 2nd biggest budget in the league.

There is no obvious stand out candidate for manager of the year, Lennon won the league like he was expected to nothing else, although our league form is infinetly better than last season we were a joke in the cups again. McCall finished 2nd in the league again with the 6th biggest budget, McInness won Aberdeen their first cup in nearly 20 years & only lost 2nd place on the last day, St Johnstone have had a great season & could win a cup should their manager get the award? I thought Dundee United had an average league campaign but could win the Scottish Cup.

Even further down Archibald kept Thistle up and above clubs with bigger budgets than they have.

The award should be voted on after the SC final, like in 2009 WGS won Manager of the Year despite Rangers winning the league & cup double.
it should have been tommy wright even if they lose the scottish cup
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My pal is a St Mirren fan and is not in the least bit surprised he has been punted. He has said on numerous occasions this season the standard of football has been absolutely dreadful.
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Just spoke to 2 first team players at St Mirren. Both are absolutely disgusted at this decision.

I have no idea what the St Mirren board expect.
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Dapper Dan
12 May 2014, 01:26 PM
My pal is a St Mirren fan and is not in the least bit surprised he has been punted. He has said on numerous occasions this season the standard of football has been absolutely dreadful.
i think the st mirren fans have wanted rid for years. even after they put us out the cup i remember reading one of their forums and they still wanted him gone :lol:

i dont know enough about st mirren , their budget etc or watch them enough to know if its harsh or not though. sometimes it can be easy to look in and judge something without knowing the full story
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Im sure it was on the BBC rumours page that Barry Ferguson was being lined up to replace Danny Lennon.
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