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Generic SPFL Thread; all the other stuff
Topic Started: 5 Apr 2014, 05:29 PM (152,791 Views)
Dannybhoy95
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martino
9 May 2014, 11:54 PM
Dannybhoy95
9 May 2014, 11:18 PM
Walter Sobchak
9 May 2014, 09:08 PM
I'm actually with Hibs on this. BT pay a derisory amount of money to show Scottish football. They should be held strictly to the contract that they signed unless they pay more money.
Totally agree.

Don't see the problem with Hibs telling BT to go eff themselves.
Basically looks like Hibs have decided they'll make more out of an at the gate attendance than they would from any TV money. Most Hibees I know think they wont do it tomorrow so maybe they should have taken the TV money.
Would they be getting additional tv money from BT for showing an extra game?
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Hamster
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Dannybhoy95
9 May 2014, 11:57 PM
martino
9 May 2014, 11:54 PM
Dannybhoy95
9 May 2014, 11:18 PM

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Basically looks like Hibs have decided they'll make more out of an at the gate attendance than they would from any TV money. Most Hibees I know think they wont do it tomorrow so maybe they should have taken the TV money.
Would they be getting additional tv money from BT for showing an extra game?
Sure it's something like £80,000. Tickets for the game are £15/£5 I think. So Petrie thinks they'll get another 5000 on top of what they have maybe?
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Hamster
10 May 2014, 12:10 AM
Dannybhoy95
9 May 2014, 11:57 PM
martino
9 May 2014, 11:54 PM

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Would they be getting additional tv money from BT for showing an extra game?
Sure it's something like £80,000. Tickets for the game are £15/£5 I think. So Petrie thinks they'll get another 5000 on top of what they have maybe?
Thats what I was thinking Hamster, an extra 5,000 at £25 a ticket is £125K for Hibs.
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Whilst it may be cost neutral or slightly beneficial for Hibs to keep the cameras out, it's not good for Scottish football.

When we're talking to TV companies again and trying to up our deal, I don't think having a club pulling the plug on one of the biggest games of the season looks good for a potential commercial partner.
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10 May 2014, 12:16 AM
Whilst it may be cost neutral or slightly beneficial for Hibs to keep the cameras out, it's not good for Scottish football.

When we're talking to TV companies again and trying to up our deal, I don't think having a club pulling the plug on one of the biggest games of the season looks good for a potential commercial partner.
yep, hopefully hibs go down
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tonyjaa-csc
10 May 2014, 12:25 AM
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10 May 2014, 12:16 AM
Whilst it may be cost neutral or slightly beneficial for Hibs to keep the cameras out, it's not good for Scottish football.

When we're talking to TV companies again and trying to up our deal, I don't think having a club pulling the plug on one of the biggest games of the season looks good for a potential commercial partner.
yep, hopefully hibs go down
Agreed. The extra 12 points next season could be useful.
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10 May 2014, 12:16 AM
Whilst it may be cost neutral or slightly beneficial for Hibs to keep the cameras out, it's not good for Scottish football.

When we're talking to TV companies again and trying to up our deal, I don't think having a club pulling the plug on one of the biggest games of the season looks good for a potential commercial partner.
If the contract allows them to do it, and Hibs don't lose any dosh, then fair play to them I say.
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HolyGoaly
10 May 2014, 12:40 AM
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10 May 2014, 12:16 AM
Whilst it may be cost neutral or slightly beneficial for Hibs to keep the cameras out, it's not good for Scottish football.

When we're talking to TV companies again and trying to up our deal, I don't think having a club pulling the plug on one of the biggest games of the season looks good for a potential commercial partner.
If the contract allows them to do it, and Hibs don't lose any dosh, then fair play to them I say.
I hate to get all 'corporate', but it seriously devalues the brand.
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10 May 2014, 12:42 AM
HolyGoaly
10 May 2014, 12:40 AM
Quiet Assasin
10 May 2014, 12:16 AM
Whilst it may be cost neutral or slightly beneficial for Hibs to keep the cameras out, it's not good for Scottish football.

When we're talking to TV companies again and trying to up our deal, I don't think having a club pulling the plug on one of the biggest games of the season looks good for a potential commercial partner.
If the contract allows them to do it, and Hibs don't lose any dosh, then fair play to them I say.
I hate to get all 'corporate', but it seriously devalues the brand.
Maybe it will give the brand managers a wake up call for the next time the try and negotiate a deal.

We shouldn't be slaves to the telly deals.
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10 May 2014, 12:42 AM
HolyGoaly
10 May 2014, 12:40 AM
Quiet Assasin
10 May 2014, 12:16 AM
Whilst it may be cost neutral or slightly beneficial for Hibs to keep the cameras out, it's not good for Scottish football.

When we're talking to TV companies again and trying to up our deal, I don't think having a club pulling the plug on one of the biggest games of the season looks good for a potential commercial partner.
If the contract allows them to do it, and Hibs don't lose any dosh, then fair play to them I say.
I hate to get all 'corporate', but it seriously devalues the brand.
it might devalue the spfl brand, but not the Hibs brand, which Im sure they are more interested in.
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herbert viola
10 May 2014, 12:46 AM
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10 May 2014, 12:42 AM
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I hate to get all 'corporate', but it seriously devalues the brand.
it might devalue the spfl brand, but not the Hibs brand, which Im sure they are more interested in.
Aye. Fair play to Hibs for looking after themselves but it's all very amateur from the league. The league that still doesn't have a sponsor, mind.
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10 May 2014, 12:59 AM
herbert viola
10 May 2014, 12:46 AM
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it might devalue the spfl brand, but not the Hibs brand, which Im sure they are more interested in.
Aye. Fair play to Hibs for looking after themselves but it's all very amateur from the league. The league that still doesn't have a sponsor, mind.
It's absolute amateur hour

From all sides :thumbsup:
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9 May 2014, 09:31 PM
BT Sport were advertising the Aberdeen v Motherwell game the other night and they said they'd have a game on Saturday, but didn't give any details which I thought was very odd.
I thought I imagined that, saw nothing on tomorrow from BT Sport. :ponder: Now I know why.
Edited by Roseanne, 10 May 2014, 01:39 AM.
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If Hibs cared about the Hibs brand, they wouldn't have let Malmo pump them 7-0 on their own patch. They would have also relegated Hertz, which might well have saved them from tomorrow's play-off to escape the play-off.

As I said earlier: Hibs fans should have sold this game out earlier this week so the club could enjoy a tv bonus for broadcasting a victory that saved their arses.
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10 May 2014, 01:01 AM
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10 May 2014, 12:59 AM
herbert viola
10 May 2014, 12:46 AM

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Aye. Fair play to Hibs for looking after themselves but it's all very amateur from the league. The league that still doesn't have a sponsor, mind.
It's absolute amateur hour

From all sides :thumbsup:
If Hibs believe they will get more money from gate receipts, its not amateur hour on their part.

There is a good change they will lose also, what effects that on their brand on national telly?

If I were Petrie, id make the exact same choice, for a variety of reasons.
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About that tweet that said bt weren't allowed to rig up at Easter rd. Arnt all the games filmed anyway? For the highlights package and overseas distribution? Hibs v Killie is being shown in Aus on delay according to Setanta here.

Think it's cutting off your nose to spite your face from hibs. Best way to get a better deal next time is to be able to point out good viewing figures. Game needs all the exposure it can get.

And slightly off the track if a yes vote for independence gets up does that mean better european and domestic tv deals for us?
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Clever stuff from Hibs.

Encourage an attendance, foster a wee siege mentality and move the heat off a struggling team on to the Chairman.
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up on the roof!!

herbert viola
10 May 2014, 01:44 AM
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10 May 2014, 01:01 AM
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It's absolute amateur hour

From all sides :thumbsup:
If Hibs believe they will get more money from gate receipts, its not amateur hour on their part.

There is a good change they will lose also, what effects that on their brand on national telly?

If I were Petrie, id make the exact same choice, for a variety of reasons.
Their "brand".....Hibs??? Seriously :lol:

The SPFL is meant to be a professional sports league in the 21st century....TV exposure is not some afterthought

TV rights are sold centrally to promote the "brand" of the league...that must include TV showing the climactic games

The rules about limits on number of games covered should have been drafted to exclude the post split fixtures .... how does this stupidity encourage a broadcaster to renew a contract ...we have to pay millions but when it comes to the "crunch" games we get told to eff off???...what's the point of that ......if they then withdraw how does that assist the league?

Utter petty stupidity from Hibs. Absolute amateur contractual negotiations from SPFL and BT



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If only BT, Sky & The BBC paid a fair price for showing games then perhaps the clubs might be a bit more flexible when it comes to requests to show a game that isn't contracted. Instead they give us a take it or leave deal and treat our game like a piece of crap.

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10 May 2014, 09:57 AM
If only BT, Sky & The BBC paid a fair price for showing games then perhaps the clubs might be a bit more flexible when it comes to requests to show a game that isn't contracted. Instead they give us a take it or leave deal and treat our game like a piece of crap.

Could not agree more. :thumbsup:
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