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Celtic v Celtic; 2017/18 by comparison
Topic Started: 25 Aug 2012, 07:35 PM (229,052 Views)
Hoops_in_Paris
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PiperBhoy
30 Sep 2013, 03:07 PM
Crossraguel
29 Sep 2012, 04:58 PM
Back to where we belong at the top of the SPL, but still propping up the table compared with earlier seasons. Hopefully this is where some perspective can now come for the remainder of the season.

After Match 7
PWDLFAGDPts
Celtic 2000/0177002071321
Celtic 2010/1177001631321
Celtic 2003/0476101831519
Celtic 2001/02 76101721519
Celtic 2004/05 76101851319
Celtic 2002/03 76011631318
Celtic 2007/08 75112461816
Celtic 2005/067511178916
Celtic 2009/10 7511157816
Celtic 2008/09 75111710716
Celtic 2006/07 7511125716
Celtic 2011/12 75021661015
Celtic 2012/13 7421137614


Closed the gap to 1 point behind last season, still on the worst goal difference. Those missed chances today could have changed that somewhat.
So taking Crossraguel table from last year. This year, 2013/14 this is our record after 7 games.


P W D L F A GD Pts
7 6 1 0 17 7 10 19

This would put us in 6th position on GD, between 2004/05 and 2002/03 :thumbsup:
Two seasons we lost the league on the last day. :doh:


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Apologies for not updating this sooner; I had been using the SPL site for data and the SPFL one which superseded it, though containing useful archive records of every SFL/Division 1/Division A/First Division/Premier Division/SPL season, hasn't been quite as user friendly for this purpose. Still, worth a browse: http://spfl.co.uk/premiership/archive/

Scottish Premiership After Match 8
PWDLFAGDPts
Celtic 2000/0188002171424
Celtic 2010/1188001841424
Celtic 2001/0287101921722
Celtic 2004/0587102151622
Celtic 2003/0487101931622
Celtic 2013/1487101971222
Celtic 2002/03 87011731421
Celtic 2007/08 86112762119
Celtic 2008/09 861121101119
Celtic 2005/0686111991019
Celtic 2006/07 8611145919
Celtic 2011/12 86021861218
Celtic 2009/10 8521157817
Celtic 2012/13 8521147717


Up there just a couple of points off the perfect starts in 2000/01 & 2010/11 and 5pts off last season can't be that bad.

As Lenny said in his post-match interview, we're 4pts behind last season in the CL, our second-worst performance at this stage on goal difference.

Champions League After Match 2
PWDLFAWDLFAGDPts
Celtic 2012/132010001003214
Celtic 2003/042100200011213
Celtic 2001/022100100012303
Celtic 2006/072100100012303
Celtic 2007/0821002100102-13
Celtic 2008/0920100000101-11
Celtic 2013/1420010100102-30
Celtic 2004/0520011300113-40


Still, thin margins in both matches and far from a disgrace against some of the fantastic performances over the years.
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Great stuff. Glad it's back. :thumbsup:
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5 Oct 2013, 06:41 PM
Apologies for not updating this sooner; I had been using the SPL site for data and the SPFL one which superseded it, though containing useful archive records of every SFL/Division 1/Division A/First Division/Premier Division/SPL season, hasn't been quite as user friendly for this purpose. Still, worth a browse: http://spfl.co.uk/premiership/archive/

Scottish Premiership After Match 8
PWDLFAGDPts
Celtic 2000/0188002171424
Celtic 2010/1188001841424
Celtic 2001/0287101921722
Celtic 2004/0587102151622
Celtic 2003/0487101931622
Celtic 2013/1487101971222
Celtic 2002/03 87011731421
Celtic 2007/08 86112762119
Celtic 2008/09 861121101119
Celtic 2005/0686111991019
Celtic 2006/07 8611145919
Celtic 2011/12 86021861218
Celtic 2009/10 8521157817
Celtic 2012/13 8521147717


Up there just a couple of points off the perfect starts in 2000/01 & 2010/11 and 5pts off last season can't be that bad.

As Lenny said in his post-match interview, we're 4pts behind last season in the CL, our second-worst performance at this stage on goal difference.

Champions League After Match 2
PWDLFAWDLFAGDPts
Celtic 2012/132010001003214
Celtic 2003/042100200011213
Celtic 2001/022100100012303
Celtic 2006/072100100012303
Celtic 2007/0821002100102-13
Celtic 2008/0920100000101-11
Celtic 2013/1420010100102-30
Celtic 2004/0520011300113-40


Still, thin margins in both matches and far from a disgrace against some of the fantastic performances over the years.
Good work Crossraguel. That Scottish Premiership site is amateurish.
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Pleased to see our league consistency is currently higher than it had been for a couple of years. Would. Really like to be in the 90s again points-wise this season.
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Scottish Premiership After Match 9
PWDLFAGDPts
Celtic 2003/0498102432125
Celtic 2004/0598102451925
Celtic 2001/0298102121925
Celtic 2000/0198102281425
Celtic 2002/0398012231924
Celtic 2010/1198011971224
Celtic 2013/1497202081223
Celtic 2007/0897112972222
Celtic 2005/0697112491522
Celtic 2008/09971123111222
Celtic 2006/0797111551022
Celtic 2012/1396211971220
Celtic 2009/109621178920
Celtic 2011/1296031881018


Today held the possibility for the current side to go joint top of the table, perfect starts never lasting the ninth match. Still only 2 points off the pace, retaining one of only a handful of unbeaten starts. Nae shame in that.
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Champions League After Match 3
PWDLFAWDLFAGDPts
Celtic 2006/073200400012336
Celtic 2001/023200200012316
Celtic 2012/133010001014404
Celtic 2003/043100200021303
Celtic 2007/0831002100203-23
Celtic 2013/1431012200102-23
Celtic 2008/0930100000204-41
Celtic 2004/0530011300216-70
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pieol
5 Oct 2013, 09:22 PM
Crossraguel
5 Oct 2013, 06:41 PM
Apologies for not updating this sooner; I had been using the SPL site for data and the SPFL one which superseded it, though containing useful archive records of every SFL/Division 1/Division A/First Division/Premier Division/SPL season, hasn't been quite as user friendly for this purpose. Still, worth a browse: http://spfl.co.uk/premiership/archive/

Scottish Premiership After Match 8
PWDLFAGDPts
Celtic 2000/0188002171424
Celtic 2010/1188001841424
Celtic 2001/0287101921722
Celtic 2004/0587102151622
Celtic 2003/0487101931622
Celtic 2013/1487101971222
Celtic 2002/03 87011731421
Celtic 2007/08 86112762119
Celtic 2008/09 861121101119
Celtic 2005/0686111991019
Celtic 2006/07 8611145919
Celtic 2011/12 86021861218
Celtic 2009/10 8521157817
Celtic 2012/13 8521147717


Up there just a couple of points off the perfect starts in 2000/01 & 2010/11 and 5pts off last season can't be that bad.

As Lenny said in his post-match interview, we're 4pts behind last season in the CL, our second-worst performance at this stage on goal difference.

Champions League After Match 2
PWDLFAWDLFAGDPts
Celtic 2012/132010001003214
Celtic 2003/042100200011213
Celtic 2001/022100100012303
Celtic 2006/072100100012303
Celtic 2007/0821002100102-13
Celtic 2008/0920100000101-11
Celtic 2013/1420010100102-30
Celtic 2004/0520011300113-40


Still, thin margins in both matches and far from a disgrace against some of the fantastic performances over the years.
Good work Crossraguel. That Scottish Premiership site is amateurish.
Not just amateurish, riddled with errors too.
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How are we comparing now. . got to be up there with our best starts since the spl formed
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arabba11
28 Oct 2013, 12:28 AM
How are we comparing now. . got to be up there with our best starts since the spl formed
Will let Crossraguel do the fancy graphics but by my reckoning we are now fourth on the season list. A couple of seasons we went on long winning streaks so that position is unlikely to change upwards anytime soon.
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27 Oct 2012, 05:30 PM
SPL after Match 10
PWDLFAGDPts
Celtic 2003/04109102832528
Celtic 2004/05 109102872128
Celtic 2001/02109102332028
Celtic 2000/01109102481628
Celtic 2010/11109012271527
Celtic 2002/03 108112561925
Celtic 2008/09 1081127131425
Celtic 2006/07 108111961325
Celtic 2005/061072125101523
Celtic 2009/10 107212081223
Celtic 2007/08 1071229101922
Celtic 2012/13 106221991020
Celtic 2011/12 1061321111019


The tenth round of matches included a few memorable moments...
Here's last season's table. We're pretty high up on 26 points.

Most importantly we are 6 points ahead of last season. Disappointingly we have conceded the same number of goals as last season. Doing this from memory so I can't recall how many we've scored this season but think we're doing okay there. Just checked, it's 22 for and 9 against so three more goals than last year.

Sammy is on 7, Commons on 6, Stokes on 5, Forrest on 4, Pukki and Balde on 2 each (in all competitions). Not too bad for October
Edited by mick82, 28 Oct 2013, 09:29 PM.
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Sorry to Crossraguel for jumping in on this and sorry there are no fancy graphics.

SPL after Match 11
P W D L F A GD Pts
Celtic 2003/04 11 10 1 0 33 3 30 31
Celtic 2001/02 11 10 1 0 28 4 24 31
Celtic 2000/01 11 10 1 0 26 8 18 31
Celtic 2010/11 11 10 0 1 31 7 24 30
Celtic 2002/03 11 9 1 1 29 7 22 28
Celtic 2004/05 11 9 1 1 30 10 20 28
Celtic 2008/09 11 9 1 1 29 13 16 28
Celtic 2006/07 11 9 1 1 23 7 13 28
Celtic 2013/14 11 8 3 0 23 10 13 27
Celtic 2005/06 11 8 2 1 26 10 16 26
Celtic 2007/08 11 8 1 2 32 10 22 25
Celtic 2009/10 11 7 3 1 23 11 12 24
Celtic 2011/12 11 7 1 3 23 12 11 22
Celtic 2012/13 11 6 3 2 21 10 11 21


The 11th round of matches was memorable for the 9-0 win against Aberdeen in 2010 but this was followed by 1 win and 3 draws in the next 5 matches. We will struggle to match any of the MON year totals but in 06/07 and 08/09 we drew a lot of matches and therefore we may overtake these. To put it in perspective the lowest total points for a season under MON was 92 and for us to beat this total with 27 games left would mean winning 22 games or winning 20 and drawing 6. Will even be difficult to beat the 91 points from 05/06.
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3 Nov 2013, 07:43 PM
Sorry to Crossraguel for jumping in on this and sorry there are no fancy graphics.

SPL after Match 11
P WDLFAGDPts
Celtic 2003/041110103333031
Celtic 2001/021110102842431
Celtic 2000/011110102681831
Celtic 2010/111110013172430
Celtic 2002/03119112972228
Celtic 2004/051191130102028
Celtic 2008/091191129131628
Celtic 2006/07119112371328
Celtic 2013/141183023101327
Celtic 2005/061182126101626
Celtic 2007/081181232102225
Celtic 2009/101173123111224
Celtic 2011/121171323121122
Celtic 2012/131163221101121


The 11th round of matches was memorable for the 9-0 win against Aberdeen in 2010 but this was followed by 1 win and 3 draws in the next 5 matches. We will struggle to match any of the MON year totals but in 06/07 and 08/09 we drew a lot of matches and therefore we may overtake these. To put it in perspective the lowest total points for a season under MON was 92 and for us to beat this total with 27 games left would mean winning 22 games or winning 20 and drawing 6. Will even be difficult to beat the 91 points from 05/06.
Good work pieol :thumbsup:
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3 Nov 2013, 09:07 PM
pieol
3 Nov 2013, 07:43 PM
Sorry to Crossraguel for jumping in on this and sorry there are no fancy graphics.

SPL after Match 11
P WDLFAGDPts
Celtic 2003/041110103333031
Celtic 2001/021110102842431
Celtic 2000/011110102681831
Celtic 2010/111110013172430
Celtic 2002/03119112972228
Celtic 2004/051191130102028
Celtic 2008/091191129131628
Celtic 2006/07119112371328
Celtic 2013/141183023101327
Celtic 2005/061182126101626
Celtic 2007/081181232102225
Celtic 2009/101173123111224
Celtic 2011/121171323121122
Celtic 2012/131163221101121


The 11th round of matches was memorable for the 9-0 win against Aberdeen in 2010 but this was followed by 1 win and 3 draws in the next 5 matches. We will struggle to match any of the MON year totals but in 06/07 and 08/09 we drew a lot of matches and therefore we may overtake these. To put it in perspective the lowest total points for a season under MON was 92 and for us to beat this total with 27 games left would mean winning 22 games or winning 20 and drawing 6. Will even be difficult to beat the 91 points from 05/06.
Good work pieol :thumbsup:
Bit of a mess but I tried!
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Like pieol, my apologies for the lack of graphics - and if you want to use my info in a table Crossraguel, that would be great - but here is a comparison of our Champions League group campaigns, after Matchday 4, from best to worst and where we eventually finished in the group:

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2012/13 = P4 W2 D1 L1 F6 A5 Pts 7 +1 = 2nd
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2003/04 = P4 W2 D0 L2 F6 A4 Pts 6 +2 = 3rd
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2007/08 = P4 W2 D0 L2 F3 A4 Pts 6 -1 = 2nd
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2006/07 = P4 W2 D0 L2 F4 A6 Pts 6 -2 = 2nd
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2001/02 = P4 W2 D0 L2 F4 A6 Pts 6 -2 = 3rd
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2013/14 = P4 W1 D0 L3 F2 A5 Pts 3 -3 = Currently 4th
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2004/05 = P4 W1 D0 L3 F3 A9 Pts 3 -6 = 4th
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2008/09 = P4 W0 D2 L2 F1 A5 Pts 2 -4 = 4th
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Still unbeaten with a 3rd of the season gone.
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17 Nov 2012, 05:02 PM
SPL after Match 13
PWDLFAGDPts
Celtic 2003/041312104343937
Celtic 2001/02 1312103152637
Celtic 2000/0113112031121935
Celtic 2002/03 1311114083234
Celtic 2004/05 13111135132234
Celtic 2008/09 13111134132134
Celtic 2006/07 1311112591634
Celtic 2010/111311023292333
Celtic 2005/0613102135122332
Celtic 2007/08 13101237112631
Celtic 2009/10 1383227141327
Celtic 2011/12 1382325131226
Celtic 2012/13 1374224121225


Aberdeen v Celtic Attendances
YearFirst MatchSecond Match
2000/0118,23916,067
2001/0218,16015,332
2002/0317,82416,331
2003/0416,452Bottom 6
2004/0517,0513 matches at Celtic Park
2005/0617,03114,597
2006/0715,30416,711
2007/0816,23214,651
2008/0918,10014,752
2009/1016,80314,898
2010/1112,901Bottom 6
2011/1212,49713,127
2012/1318,000


Credit to Aberdeen today - a good advert for the SPL on the pitch and fans in good voice and numbers off it :thumbsup: Attendance up 5k on the equivalent fixture last year - an extra £100k into their coffers.
This time last season we would have been trailing ICT. Just one less draw and we would have been a good bit higher up but then we are only 4 points behind the 03/04 season. Which was pretty good.

Still doing ourselves no favours on the defensive front. Perhaps all the moreso given that previous years have seen us lose a good number of goals in a single game (eg three or four against Rangers) whereas we are just consistently conceding one a game this season. Given our difficulty in creating and finishing chances, that's causing us some problems albeit our wins ratio stands us in good stead to pick up a good number of points
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It's funny to think despite being unbeaten in our opening 13 league games for the first time in 10 years, our 33/39 points is 'only' our 9th best start in the past 14 seasons.
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3 Nov 2013, 07:43 PM
Sorry to Crossraguel for jumping in on this and sorry there are no fancy graphics.

SPL after Match 11
P WDLFAGDPts
Celtic 2003/041110103333031
Celtic 2001/021110102842431
Celtic 2000/011110102681831
Celtic 2010/111110013172430
Celtic 2002/03119112972228
Celtic 2004/051191130102028
Celtic 2008/091191129131628
Celtic 2006/07119112371328
Celtic 2013/141183023101327
Celtic 2005/061182126101626
Celtic 2007/081181232102225
Celtic 2009/101173123111224
Celtic 2011/121171323121122
Celtic 2012/131163221101121


The 11th round of matches was memorable for the 9-0 win against Aberdeen in 2010 but this was followed by 1 win and 3 draws in the next 5 matches. We will struggle to match any of the MON year totals but in 06/07 and 08/09 we drew a lot of matches and therefore we may overtake these. To put it in perspective the lowest total points for a season under MON was 92 and for us to beat this total with 27 games left would mean winning 22 games or winning 20 and drawing 6. Will even be difficult to beat the 91 points from 05/06.
Sorry - I just had to sort it out.

SPFL After Match 11

PWDLFAGDPts
Celtic 2003/041110103333031
Celtic 2001/021110102842431
Celtic 2000/011110102681831
Celtic 2010/111110013172430
Celtic 2002/03119112972228
Celtic 2004/051191130102028
Celtic 2008/091191129131628
Celtic 2006/07119112371628
Celtic 2013/141183023101327
Celtic 2005/061182126101626
Celtic 2007/081181232102225
Celtic 2009/101173123111224
Celtic 2011/121171323121122
Celtic 2012/131163221101121
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Ah eff it, might as well update my unprofessionally presented stats, for a comparison of our UCL group campaigns after Matchday 5 - from best to worst and where we eventually finished/will finish in the group:

2007/08 = P5 W3 D0 L2 F5 A5 Pts 9 -0 = 2nd
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2006/07 = P5 W3 D0 L2 F5 A6 Pts 9 -1 = 2nd
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2003/04 = P5 W2 D1 L2 F6 A4 Pts 7 +2 = 3rd
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2012/13 = P5 W2 D1 L2 F7 A7 Pts 7 -0 = 2nd
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2001/02 = P5 W2 D0 L3 F4 A8 Pts 6 -4 = 3rd
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2004/05 = P5 W1 D1 L3 F4 A10 Pts 4 -6 = 4th
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2013/14 = P5 W1 D0 L4 F2 A8 Pts 3 -6 = Will finish 4th
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2008/09 = P5 W0 D2 L3 F2 A7 Pts 2 -5 = 4th
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