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| Old Celtic Images; Some which you think others haven't seen, PRE 1995 | |
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| Topic Started: 19 Feb 2011, 10:55 AM (4,345,982 Views) | |
| dubcentral | 28 Mar 2011, 01:45 PM Post #1161 |
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| dubcentral | 28 Mar 2011, 01:46 PM Post #1162 |
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| Ally Les Verts | 28 Mar 2011, 01:47 PM Post #1163 |
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Proud to be one of the 45%ers
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Your post got me thinking. I mentioned what you said to my wife, who was born and brought up in Palace st, and she said it was impossible for the original CP to have stood there as those houses were built during Victorian times (one of the buildings had the date 18?? on it). So it got me thinking where was the first CP built. The Wiki states that it was originally on the north east corner of London rd and Springfield (Dalmarnock) rd but moved approx 500 m across the road when the landlord increased the rent.. I did a bit of digging but I couldn't find any reference to it. Then it hit me. If the ground was a football park then it makes sense to keep it going and invite another club to use it. If I'm correct then the original ground would have become Strathclyde Juniors FC which went bust in the mid sixties. The photo below shows the two entrances off Springie rd and Silverdale st and you can make out the rough shape of the ground as it is today. ![]()
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| celtic_ghreat | 28 Mar 2011, 01:55 PM Post #1164 |
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Old ground was definitely, 100%, between the Cemetery and what was then Dalmarnock Street. (On the corner of Janefield Street and Springfield Road). Celtic moved out in 1892, so there's still a good few years for houses to go up in the 1800s.
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| nowonder | 28 Mar 2011, 02:05 PM Post #1165 |
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Strathclyde juniors ground was behing the Belvidere bowling club on London Rd going towards Springfield Rd.Interestingly Celtic owned the land until recently. |
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| Ally Les Verts | 28 Mar 2011, 02:27 PM Post #1166 |
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The bowling club can be seen in the image on Silverdale st, as far as I know Celtic never owned the ground. You must be thinking of Barrowfield which was originally the home of Bridgeton Waverly Juinors FC. |
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| four-leaf-clover | 28 Mar 2011, 02:30 PM Post #1167 |
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"Celtic!" he replied (with a smile)
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Pleased to see you did a bit of Digging ALV (the more the merrier) @the CGS Probably best if you had started with finding out exactly when the tenements of Palace Street and the others where put up, without really going into it there is stone wall evidence that the flats were not their in 1888- 1892, although there is no photo evidence of the 1st CP and it does not show up in the maps we do know the address was Dalmarnock Street (Springy Road). If you are doing more digging forget about the Strathies and concentrate on Palace Street as i believe your wife might have once lived on top of the centre circle of the 1st Celtic Park
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| Ally Les Verts | 28 Mar 2011, 02:39 PM Post #1168 |
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This is from the Wiki............ For the previous 4 seasons (1888-1892), Celtic Park had been situated a little less than 500 metres away on the north east corner of Springfield Road (then known as Dalmarnock Street) & London Road. That “first” Celtic Park had been built on land leased from a private landowner within a week of the Club being formed. In less than six months, a voluntary workforce had built a stadium that matched the highest standards of the time; There was a level, grassy playing field measuring 110 yards long and 66 yards wide, basic earthen terracing around three sides of the stadium and an open-air stand (capable of accommodating 1,000 spectators) that contained a pavilion, a referee's room, an office, dressing rooms and washing and toilet facilities It makes no mention of Janefield st. This is what started me. I took it for granted that the original ground was in the vacinty of the graveyard but there would have no room for it. The houses in the photo would have been there when the ground was supposidly there at the time. The only other site would have been Dalriada st but that would make it the north west corner. |
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| celtic_ghreat | 28 Mar 2011, 02:44 PM Post #1169 |
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It's documented somewhere that some fans would sit on the wall of the necropolis to watch the games, and the turnstiles (and solitary "grandstand") were on the Dalmarnock Street side. Found it: Dan Drake went to the first game - http://www.thecelticwiki.com/page/Supporters+-+Dan+Drake Edited by celtic_ghreat, 28 Mar 2011, 02:45 PM.
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| four-leaf-clover | 28 Mar 2011, 02:55 PM Post #1170 |
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"Celtic!" he replied (with a smile)
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Oh well ALV if you dont think CP1 was north of janey and was somewhere else carry on, if you are really interested in CP1 join us on the Celtic Grave Society where you will find a interesting thread on CP1
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| joebloggscity | 28 Mar 2011, 03:00 PM Post #1171 |
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For the Glory of the Green
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League Cup win from Oct 1966? or Oct 1965? I guess the latter... |
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| seville servant | 28 Mar 2011, 03:10 PM Post #1172 |
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Getting noticed in the reserves
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As well as the players in the bottom photograph, there is also a very interesting spectator that you can see. The person sitting down at the bottom left hand corner - next to Jinky's hand - is a guy called John McFadyen. Sadly, John passed away quite a number of years ago but I used to work beside him in the early 1970s. I remember him telling me that his two great passions in life were Celtic and taking cine films and eventually he combined these two passions into one and created the Celtic Cine Club. (This was years before the digital age.) When he first came up with the idea, he presented it to Celtic, who agreed to give it their official backing and an article about forming the Club was published in the Celtic View. As a result of that article, he managed to get a number of people who were interested in this and so the Cine Club was born. They managed to get Press Photographer tickets for every ground in Scotland and I think members of the Club then filmed every match. They then converted lots of these films into shows and would go round Supporters' Clubs showing films of games. I think the money they raised was then used to buy new equipment. As I said, John passed away some years ago and I can only presume that the Club no longer exists - though maybe someone can put me right on this. But even if it has gone, I suspect that someone out there still has footage of the games that the Club filmed. John was a great guy and was absolutely passionate about Celtic and it was great to see him featured in this photograph. |
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| dubcentral | 28 Mar 2011, 03:26 PM Post #1173 |
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I remember going to some nights in the early 80's run by the Pollok CSC when the Celtic Cine Club would show old games. It was the first time I had seen the goals from the 4-2 game. |
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| The Gorbals Urchin | 28 Mar 2011, 03:31 PM Post #1174 |
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John was a proper gent and a good Gorbals man . |
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| Ally Les Verts | 28 Mar 2011, 03:35 PM Post #1175 |
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Cheers CG. That article mentions CP1 stood on the Barrs site so the houses would be standing at the time. |
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| Ally Les Verts | 28 Mar 2011, 03:38 PM Post #1176 |
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As you can see it has now been cleared up. I've had a look at the CGS thread and didn't realise that all my family are buried in such esteemed company. Edited by Ally Les Verts, 28 Mar 2011, 03:39 PM.
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| Soubirous | 28 Mar 2011, 03:39 PM Post #1177 |
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Introibo Ad Altare Dei
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I remember that name right enough. Was the Celtic Car Club not formed around the same time? A huge cavalcade left for Lisbon from Celtic Park. |
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| Ally Les Verts | 28 Mar 2011, 03:42 PM Post #1178 |
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Didn't the Cine Club used to film from the gantry above the old jungle?
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| JMcK | 28 Mar 2011, 04:12 PM Post #1179 |
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Hello, Just signed up. I can confirm that John Murphy was a PE Teacher at Holyrood. I was there from 1948 t0 1953. He used to organise a number of pupils in fifth year to sell programmes at Parkhead. It was a good way of making pocket money and also gave free entry to the match. The programmes cost 3p (old money- just over 1p now). You would take as many as you thought you could sell and stand outside the ground in the run up to the match trying your damndest to sell as many as you could. There were also older men who had a concession from the club to sell the official programme so there was a bit of competition. I can't remember exactly how it was worked out but it did provide a good lump of pocket money,enough to take us to the "pictures" in the city on an Saturday evening after the match. Mention has been made of the half time scores. At the time I am talking about, the half time scores were displayed on a structure built out of scaffold poles and wood above the west end terraces, a bit like a pigeon loft. Two of us who had been allocated that "beat" for the day were tasked with putting up the half-time scores. They were done from a selection of numbers which were stored at the back of the hut with hooks on them which were dropped into place alongside an alphabetical grid. The programme had the teams that corresponded to the letters printed in it. My Andy Warhol 15 minutes (more like 15 seconds!!) was one Saturday in the run up to the end of the season and Celtic and Rangers were neck and neck for the championship so there was quite keen interest (understatement). Can't remember who Rangers were playing but I dropped the "2" in against them (Rangers) and concealed the number for their opponents till the last second. There was groan that echoed round Parkhead before I dropped the "3" in. Got the biggest cheer ever. Sorry about the anecdotal ramble.
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| Glasgow Road | 28 Mar 2011, 04:22 PM Post #1180 |
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