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Old Celtic Images; Some which you think others haven't seen, PRE 1995
Topic Started: 19 Feb 2011, 10:55 AM (4,345,994 Views)
CaltonBhoy1967
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Billy McNeill - "Mr Celtic"
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23 Mar 2011, 08:52 PM
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23 Mar 2011, 07:35 PM
I think the two missing players are John Jack and Vince Ryan. I think Jack is in the back row.
If the photo is 56-57 then Jack has to be in the photo as he played in every league game bar one and also Beattie missed the same game but he is in the photo.
Vince Ryan played 12 games as a replacement for Bobby Collins (who is not in the photo)
With Frank Meechan in the photo, he only played 6 league games that season and if that is the enclosure at Celtic Park then Celtic only played one home game with Meechan in the team.
I think Sammy Wilson signed in the summer of 1957.

So I think the photo was taken at the game v Dunfermline Athletic on 15 December 1956.

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Not many pics going about of them two but have found a team pic, must say it looks nothing like them but ties in with the Dunfermline game as that was the line up, was not a good period in Celtics history so names dont just jump out at you, although the 7-1 team that beat the huns does and will never be forgotten. :worthy:

Well done in getting the other names as i had gave up :thumbsup:
Panmure Street's Finest Son in that lower pic as a Young Celt.

He is 73 :rubeyes: today.


Happy Birthday and many more of them Bertie Auld. :worthy:





Edited by CaltonBhoy1967, 23 Mar 2011, 09:50 PM.
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1955 ...?
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interesting that everybody looks much older and fatter in these 50's photographs, than present day footballers, were they?
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Charles McGinlay
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Grandson of the above player has contacted us on the wiki. If anyone has any info or pics on him, please can they assist and get back to me. It would be great. We've filled out his biog page a bit.

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Empire Exhibition 1938.

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24 Mar 2011, 09:12 AM
interesting that everybody looks much older and fatter in these 50's photographs, than present day footballers, were they?
I was just thinking what a sublime example of an athlete Tully looks ... :lol:

A genius tho'..... and I have mentioned on KDS before that the first time my father went courting with my mother in the 1950s and had to face her parents, he recalls there was two pictures hanging in the kitchen of my Mum's family's flat; one of the pope, and the other of Tully - Tully's was the bigger picture.
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Im assuming that is the Celtic End in the background
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Is the guy in the background Tully Senior??
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Im assuming that is the Celtic End in the background
Or the huns end of the Jungle.
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Someone posted this pic earlier in the thread, cannae be annoyed looking back :nono:

although this appears to be of our Celtic Park its not, there have never have been speedway at CP but there was one over the railway line (celtic end) at Dalserf Street Barrowfield, postal address of Porter Street Camlachie and was owned by a Mr Nelson and the venue was better known as the Glasgow Nelson

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Edit} to let JBC know to remove the nice piece he did on the wiki :thumbsup:

http://www.thecelticwiki.com/page/Celtic+Park+-+Speedway
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24 Mar 2011, 04:34 PM
Someone posted this pic earlier in the thread, cannae be annoyed looking back :nono:

although this appears to be of our Celtic Park its not, there have never have been speedway at CP but there was one over the railway line (celtic end) at Dalserf Street Barrowfield, postal address of Porter Street Camlachie and was owned by a Mr Nelson and the venue was better known as the Glasgow Nelson

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Edit} to let JBC know to remove the nice piece he did on the wiki :thumbsup:

http://www.thecelticwiki.com/page/Celtic+Park+-+Speedway
you sure?

see: http://www.thecelticwiki.com/page/Celtic+Park+-+Speedway

"A crowd of 5,000 watched what is believed to have been the first ever organised speedway meeting in Britain at Celtic Park on April 28th 1928. The event was organised by Dirt Track Speedways who were trying to promote the event in sport in Scotland.

They followed the April meeting with an exhibition of speedway racing during the interval of the Glasgow Charity Cup tie with Rangers on May 5th. "

from "Celtic The Encycolpedia" by Campbell & Sheridan

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It is widely believed in speedway circles that the first "proper" racing took place at Celtic Park.

Speedway historian, Jim Henry, writes in his book "Glasgows Speedways - the pre war years" ---

"The birth of speedway in Scotland is often the subject of debate and, if you demand that the track be of the cinder variety in a proper stadium, then Celtic Park is the one you should support.

If you want the proto-speedway venue then I must direct you to a stadium which lay to the north of Celtic Park, separated from it by a railway embankment, and marked on the ordnance survey maps of the day as The Olympic Stadium. A somewhat pretentious name for a trotting and greyhound track which was, to describe it best, somewhat egg-shaped. The straights were straight, but the bends were of different radii. The distance round one lap measured at 486 yards. Vertical railway sleepers served as an outside fence and a post and rail fence marked the inner boundary.

From contemporary maps of the track the stadium was orientated with the long axis NNE - SSW and appeared to have some form of covered accommodation at the northern end, adjacent to the bend with the greater radius. The southern bend was adjacent to a railway embankment which in turn was adjacent to the north western terracing (the Celtic End) of Celtic Park. The site is now occupied by the houses of Dalserf Street. This venue which had the postal address of Porter Street, Camlachie was owned by a Mr Nelson and the venue is much better known as Glasgow Nelson. The events staged there were organised by the Glasgow Nelson Motor Cycle Dirt-Track Club, the first such club to be established in Britain.

Activity started in early March 1928, including one on a snow covered track, when the club members took to the track to practice. Jimmy Valente is featured on the front page of the contemporary Sunday Post repairing an inner tube before returning to the track. Further practice sessions were staged and recorded in the contemporary press before the Glasgow lads felt prepared to charge the public to watch what they were up to. The event of 25 March was recorded thus. ‘Thrills in plenty were given by the members of the recently formed Motor Cycle Dirt-Track racing company at Nelson Grounds, Camlachie, Glasgow yesterday afternoon, when both solo and combination machines took part in a number of displays. The attendance must have been most gratifying to the promoters, over 2,000 being present. Exhaustive alterations which are being made are rapidly nearing completion.’

On Easter Monday, 9 April 1928, the doors were opened to the public and the first event staged. Yet again the press were there to record the action in photographic form. Most newspapers carried action photographs which show the riders cornering with feet on the ‘pegs’. The written coverage elsewhere is sketchy to say the least and most meetings seem devoid of much incident. All of 2,000 turned up to watch the heats and finals of 5 events. John Allan, a road racer from Prestwick is recorded as the first winner of a heat. John won the 350cc heat of the 5 lap event in 2 minutes 37 seconds and by a distance of 40 yards from an A. Dick. John went on to win the final from Andy Marr and George Wilson and win £3. Tom Shearer won the 250cc 10 lap event by a lap to collect a gold medal and £1 taking 5 minutes 46.6 seconds in beating Jimmy Reid . The 600cc event went to another road racer, Manx Grand Prix competitor Harry Potts who defeated George Biagi, a relation of track doctor Carlo, covering 5 laps in 2 minutes 27.5 to win £4. James Edward defeated Graham Morrison and Harry Potts to win the Unlimited event in 2 minutes 20.6 seconds and collect a gold medal plus £3 while Peter Coia had a walk over in the sidecar event after Frank Alexander crashed, gifting Peter the gold medal and £2.

According to Norrie Isbister, Nelson was not really dirt track racing as the track was board hard and it was ridden feet up on the pegs. The contemporary photographs fit Norrie's description of the event but what he did not mention was that the bikes were in road going trim. No bits taken off here.

The following Saturday but one, 21 April the new sport attracted 1,500 fans. This time Scotty Cumming won the 350cc, Graham Morrison, from Ayr, the Invitation (for the best from the opener), James Edward again won the unlimited as did Peter Coia in the sidecars. The 250cc event was cancelled due to lack of entrants.

The night before Celtic Park opened on 27 April, the event winners were 350cc George Wilson, 600cc Peter James, 250cc Tom Shearer while James Edward retained his Unlimited crown and Peter Coia surrendered his sidecar mantle. The report of this meeting is quite sketchy but a certain Norrie Isbister appears in the published results taking second place in the heats of the 350cc.

Friday 4 May 1928 and meeting four gave victories to the same guys as the week before in both the 350cc and 600cc events. The unlimited event was won by Andy Marr, who was a pioneer who had raced sand tracks. The sidecar fell victim of a paucity of entrants. The 1928 finale for Nelson took place the following Friday and it was a Jimmie Pinkerton benefit night. He raced unbeaten through all his races to win the 350cc, 600cc and the unlimited event. Jimmie was a regular attender at Nelson and would go on to appear at White City's only meting in 1928 which was the swan song of the Glasgow Nelson Dirt-Track Club.

OK the track may not have provided true speedway, but it was a pioneer venture and it helped bring a few riders into the speedway fold. Today the site is covered by houses which are dwarfed by the stands of Celtic Park. There has been talk of demolishing some of these houses, and, if they do this, there may be the chance to erect some form of memorial to Glasgow Nelson and the pioneers of Scottish Speedway.

The track flickered into life in 1932 when at least one meeting was staged there on Tuesday 17 May. A meeting was staged by the riders known as the ‘Blantyre Crowd’ who were running a track at Motherwell under the Lanarkshire Speedway Club banner. A meeting to be staged on 24 May was advertised in the Daily Record and Mail that day. It advised that 20 riders would take part and that admission was 7d. (approximately 3p). Whether this or any other meetings were held is not known."

A pic which is described as "Johnnie Walker biting the dust at Celtic Park in 1928"


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24 Mar 2011, 03:45 PM
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Im assuming that is the Celtic End in the background
That's the corner of the Hayshed (Jungle) and the Rangers End boss.

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24 Mar 2011, 04:42 PM
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24 Mar 2011, 04:34 PM
Someone posted this pic earlier in the thread, cannae be annoyed looking back :nono:

although this appears to be of our Celtic Park its not, there have never have been speedway at CP but there was one over the railway line (celtic end) at Dalserf Street Barrowfield, postal address of Porter Street Camlachie and was owned by a Mr Nelson and the venue was better known as the Glasgow Nelson

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Edit} to let JBC know to remove the nice piece he did on the wiki :thumbsup:

http://www.thecelticwiki.com/page/Celtic+Park+-+Speedway
you sure?

see: http://www.thecelticwiki.com/page/Celtic+Park+-+Speedway

"A crowd of 5,000 watched what is believed to have been the first ever organised speedway meeting in Britain at Celtic Park on April 28th 1928. The event was organised by Dirt Track Speedways who were trying to promote the event in sport in Scotland.

They followed the April meeting with an exhibition of speedway racing during the interval of the Glasgow Charity Cup tie with Rangers on May 5th. "

from "Celtic The Encycolpedia" by Campbell & Sheridan

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FFS, surely some mistake: didn't Hibs have speedway before us?
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Think this is John Clark when he played for Morton. The colour is obviously meant to be blue and has been affected in some way.
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24 Mar 2011, 04:34 PM
Someone posted this pic earlier in the thread, cannae be annoyed looking back :nono:

although this appears to be of our Celtic Park its not, there have never have been speedway at CP but there was one over the railway line (celtic end) at Dalserf Street Barrowfield, postal address of Porter Street Camlachie and was owned by a Mr Nelson and the venue was better known as the Glasgow Nelson

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Edit} to let JBC know to remove the nice piece he did on the wiki :thumbsup:

http://www.thecelticwiki.com/page/Celtic+Park+-+Speedway
Sorry FLC, but this guy on the bike is crashing inside the Celtic End, not behind it :thumbsup:

1928 ;)
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I done a bit of research on the Celtic Park Speedway for another site, the first meeting and 2 or 3 afterwards were held inside Celtic Park (stadium), riders were not happy with the surface and the venue was changed to (here is the mix up) Celtic Park!! Yes there was a track nearby which in Speedway circles carried the name Celtic Park, but the as the photo above shows, speedway did take place inside the stadium :thumbsup:
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