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Beckham out of world cup
Topic Started: 16 Mar 2010, 12:16 AM (2,270 Views)
paul88 16 Mar 2010, 01:18 AM Post #21
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 Nice enough guy and a good footballer,I just don't think the current England team will suffer too much by his absence from this world cup.
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CiaranOG 16 Mar 2010, 01:21 AM Post #22
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paul88
16 Mar 2010, 01:18 AM
Nice enough guy and a good footballer,I just don't think the current England team will suffer too much by his absence from this world cup.
Not on the park though, but he is a leader and England will have a lot of younger players there.

Quite a few are making their World Cup debuts.
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boneill88 16 Mar 2010, 01:25 AM Post #23
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 Im gutted for him. He seems the type of guy who just loves football.
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paul88 16 Mar 2010, 01:27 AM Post #24
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16 Mar 2010, 01:21 AM
paul88
16 Mar 2010, 01:18 AM
Nice enough guy and a good footballer,I just don't think the current England team will suffer too much by his absence from this world cup.
Not on the park though, but he is a leader and England will have a lot of younger players there.

Quite a few are making their World Cup debuts.
They still have the likes of Lampard,Terry,Gerrard,Ferdinand,and a few others so there is plenty of experience in their team,as I said nice guy but I don't think they will miss him on or off the field.
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behan 16 Mar 2010, 01:33 AM Post #25
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 Sorry to hear that. One of the few in that squad I'd be happy to see do well. Would presume that's him done for international football, other than maybe a wave goodbye to Wembley in a friendly after the summer.
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jonathan1312 16 Mar 2010, 01:34 AM Post #26
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 i am stunned at the beckham-worship on this thread.

he hasn't been a serious player since about 2002, when he decided he was more interested in money and fame than in achieving great things on a football pitch.

ryan giggs is 18 months older than him. paul scholes is one year older. they are both still operating very effectively at the sharp end of top-level football while he arses around like a yo-yo between california and the footballing re-enactment of "cocoon" that is the current ac milan squad.

he flopped at the 1998, 2002 and 2006 world cups, and at euro 2000 and euro 2004. the majority of those tournaments happened while he was at his athletic peak. what makes people think it would have been any different this time around, now that the man can barely move and is incapable of doing any footballing task competently apart from taking corners and frees?
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bjarnason56 16 Mar 2010, 01:35 AM Post #27
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CiaranOG 16 Mar 2010, 01:44 AM Post #28
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16 Mar 2010, 01:34 AM
i am stunned at the beckham-worship on this thread.

he hasn't been a serious player since about 2002, when he decided he was more interested in money and fame than in achieving great things on a football pitch.

ryan giggs is 18 months older than him. paul scholes is one year older. they are both still operating very effectively at the sharp end of top-level football while he arses around like a yo-yo between california and the footballing re-enactment of "cocoon" that is the current ac milan squad.

he flopped at the 1998, 2002 and 2006 world cups, and at euro 2000 and euro 2004. the majority of those tournaments happened while he was at his athletic peak. what makes people think it would have been any different this time around, now that the man can barely move and is incapable of doing any footballing task competently apart from taking corners and frees?
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jonathan1312 16 Mar 2010, 01:49 AM Post #29
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 what do you specifically disagree with?

the bit about beckham flopping at five international tournaments? the bit about him spiralling downwards since 2002? the bit about scholes and giggs putting him to shame?
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paul88
16 Mar 2010, 01:27 AM
CiaranOG
16 Mar 2010, 01:21 AM
paul88
16 Mar 2010, 01:18 AM
Nice enough guy and a good footballer,I just don't think the current England team will suffer too much by his absence from this world cup.
Not on the park though, but he is a leader and England will have a lot of younger players there.

Quite a few are making their World Cup debuts.
They still have the likes of Lampard,Terry,Gerrard,Ferdinand,and a few others so there is plenty of experience in their team,as I said nice guy but I don't think they will miss him on or off the field.
He's one of those guys though that when you look along the bench with 25 mins to go 1 nil down that you know can give you the edge, without him their team as a whole is a lot weaker, big miss for them.
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jonathan1312
16 Mar 2010, 01:49 AM
what do you specifically disagree with?

the bit about beckham flopping at five international tournaments? the bit about him spiralling downwards since 2002? the bit about scholes and giggs putting him to shame?
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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jonathan1312 16 Mar 2010, 01:54 AM Post #32
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 seriously, i just don't get this. what has beckham actually contributed for england in the last seven or eight years, apart from being handsome and full of supposed star-quality and a great guy?

he was bloody awful at the last world cup. his utter lack of mobility and his inability to beat a man were a total killer for england down that entire side of the pitch. remember the difference aaron lennon made when he finally came on against portugal in the quarter-finals?

he was pretty wretched at euro 2004 too. his most memorable contributions were to miss penalties against portugal and france.
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jonathan1312 16 Mar 2010, 01:55 AM Post #33
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16 Mar 2010, 01:51 AM
jonathan1312
16 Mar 2010, 01:49 AM
what do you specifically disagree with?

the bit about beckham flopping at five international tournaments? the bit about him spiralling downwards since 2002? the bit about scholes and giggs putting him to shame?
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
please explain.
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Black Steel 16 Mar 2010, 01:55 AM Post #34
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I noticed a few mentions of this in the weekend games threads. It`s pretty big news though so I thought it maybe merits a thread of it`s own.
Terrible thing to happen to Beckham. He was a cert to be included in the World Cup squad until his injury last night. One of the very few people in football with absolutely no Celtic connections I have tremendous respect for, I`ve admired him since pretty much way back after France `98 and the disgraceful way he was treated by the press and basically the vast majority of people in the country(bar Man Utd fans obviously) who blamed him entirely for Englands world cup exit. I thought the way he handled himself back then on and off the pitch was magnificent.

A true top class player who at the peak of his career was undoubtedly amongst the finest midfielders in world football as well as being a fantastic ambassador for the game.
I`ve heard a few snippets on SSN earlier today alluding to the fact that given his age this could be the end for Beckham completely. I`m not so sure about that, I think he`ll be back although the chances of him appearing in a major tournament for England again seem unlikely.

Last week in the Man Utd/ Milan game it brought a smile to face when I heard the reception given to him by the Utd fans.
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I agree, he was a fantastic football player at Man Utd, his taste in choosing a wife was highly suspect though, I really can't stand her.

He was the best Dead BAll Specialist the game has seen in years when he came on the scene.

I never like seeing players ruled out of major tournaments and yeah I agree its a terrible shame for him.
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Ronando 16 Mar 2010, 01:55 AM Post #35
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jonathan1312
16 Mar 2010, 01:49 AM
what do you specifically disagree with?

the bit about beckham flopping at five international tournaments? the bit about him spiralling downwards since 2002? the bit about scholes and giggs putting him to shame?
How exactly do Giggs & Scholes put him to shame? Just because they still play with United while he opted for 'the money' with LA Galaxy? Or you mean current ability?
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jonathan1312 16 Mar 2010, 01:59 AM Post #36
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16 Mar 2010, 01:55 AM
jonathan1312
16 Mar 2010, 01:49 AM
what do you specifically disagree with?

the bit about beckham flopping at five international tournaments? the bit about him spiralling downwards since 2002? the bit about scholes and giggs putting him to shame?
How exactly do Giggs & Scholes put him to shame? Just because they still play with United while he opted for 'the money' with LA Galaxy? Or you mean current ability?
i mean the whole lot of it. achievements, current playing ability, desire, drive.

giggs and scholes are still doing the business against strong opposition in england and europe. beckham has spent the last three years (a) having a rest in los angeles and (b) treating milan as a gymnasium to get fit for the 2010 world cup.

they were a bit better than him even in his peak years (1996-2000), but for giggs to be still an incredibly effective and adaptable and ultra-hungry player at 36 while beckham is a public relations man at 34 just shows you the gulf of difference between the two.

beckham is a star. giggs is a footballer.
Edited by jonathan1312, 16 Mar 2010, 01:59 AM.
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jonathan1312
16 Mar 2010, 01:55 AM
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16 Mar 2010, 01:51 AM
jonathan1312
16 Mar 2010, 01:49 AM
what do you specifically disagree with?

the bit about beckham flopping at five international tournaments? the bit about him spiralling downwards since 2002? the bit about scholes and giggs putting him to shame?
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
please explain.
If you can't see the irony in comparing those three players international careers then i won't waste my time explaining. :lol: :lol:
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duffsticks 16 Mar 2010, 02:02 AM Post #38
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jonathan1312
16 Mar 2010, 01:54 AM
seriously, i just don't get this. what has beckham actually contributed for england in the last seven or eight years, apart from being handsome and full of supposed star-quality and a great guy?

he was bloody awful at the last world cup. his utter lack of mobility and his inability to beat a man were a total killer for england down that entire side of the pitch. remember the difference aaron lennon made when he finally came on against portugal in the quarter-finals?

he was pretty wretched at euro 2004 too. his most memorable contributions were to miss penalties against portugal and france.
between 2000 and 2002, beckham was outstanding. he was still exceptionally good in 2004, 2006 he was probably on the wain.

nobody on here, as far as i can see, is saying he was the best player in the world; all they are saying (rightly, whether you are willing to accept it or not) is that in his day, he was a very good player and his injury is a sad end to the international career of a man who gave his all to his country.
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jonathan1312 16 Mar 2010, 02:03 AM Post #39
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16 Mar 2010, 01:59 AM
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16 Mar 2010, 01:55 AM
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16 Mar 2010, 01:51 AM

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please explain.
If you can't see the irony in comparing those three players international careers then i won't waste my time explaining. :lol: :lol:
i didn't realise that international caps excluded the rest of a player's career -- my sincerest apologies.

giggs can't exactly do anything about the fact that he played for a piss-poor national side who, in his entire 20-year career, only got close to qualifying for a tournament on two occasions (1994 and 2004).

scholes' international career was no worse than beckham's (with far fewer missed penalties at crucial moments), and he at least has the excuse that he was repeatedly shunted miles out of position in order to make room for the likes of gerrard and lampard to bump into each other year after year. he should have quit the england team years before he did.
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16 Mar 2010, 02:03 AM
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jonathan1312
16 Mar 2010, 01:55 AM

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If you can't see the irony in comparing those three players international careers then i won't waste my time explaining. :lol: :lol:
i didn't realise that international caps excluded the rest of a player's career -- my sincerest apologies.

giggs can't exactly do anything about the fact that he played for a piss-poor national side who, in his entire 20-year career, only got close to qualifying for a tournament on two occasions (1994 and 2004).

scholes' international career was no worse than beckham's (with far fewer missed penalties at crucial moments), and he at least has the excuse that he was repeatedly shunted miles out of position in order to make room for the likes of gerrard and lampard to bump into each other year after year. he should have quit the england team years before he did.
Stop it your killing me :lol:
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