Moving The Goalposts

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Moving The Goalposts; Changes to football we've hardly noticed
Topic Started: 12 Mar 2010, 05:53 PM (944 Views)
TheHumanTorpedo	12 Mar 2010, 05:53 PM Post #1
That's the way it crumbles... cookie-wise. Posts: 6,479 Group: Backroom Staff Member #2,767 Joined: 16 January 2006	Talking to a mate yesterday about old Scottish Cup finals and we got a bit sidetracked when he mentioned how much he missed the old press box at Hampden. For those who can't remember the press box it was this huge rickety shed, adorned with two long rows of windows, which seemed perilously perched on the main stand roof. It appeared to have been built tilting forward and always looked as if it was set to crash to earth at any moment. My mate said he was fascinated by it as a youngster and would spend ages staring at it in the expectancy it would topple off the roof at any moment. He said he had alaways refused to go in the main stand as he believed death by press box was imminent and inevitable. To be honest until he mentioned it I had almost forgotten it was ever there. Yet it was probably once the most iconic features of the stadium. That got me thinking as to what other changes have happened to the game which most of us have forgot about or perhaps never even noticed. One thing I came up with was goalposts. At the risk of going all Ron Mananger, there was a time when a set of goalposts at a ground were almost as unique as a club's kit. No set appeared the same. Yet now they all seem identical. It seems such a tiny little thing but its another bit of identity and character squeezed from the game. I remember the goals at the old Wembley were very neat. Quite shallow and tidy. At least until the Scotland fans got their hands on them. The box shape we see loads of today were once for just more exotic climes. World Cup qualifiers in distant lands and rare brief glimpses of continetial games at the end of Football Focus. As a young kid cheering on Celtic in the early 80s my undoubted favourites were the Hampden goalposts. The vast concrete bowl which was the old Hampden had a lot wrong with it but its sheer size was always impressive. From the terracing to the pitch, everything seemed massive and the goalposts were no different. They consisted of a huge wooden frame with the sturdiest of square posts. They looked solid, intimidating even. You wouldn’t want to get into a fight with the Hampden goalposts. The nets attached to these monstrous structures were equally impressive. They were cast over a deep arcing frame and seemed to cover acres of land behind the posts (I’m pretty sure you could have built another stadium in the space between goal-line and the ‘back of the net’). If I remember rightly, for much of the 80s Celtic favoured what was then an increasingly popular design of goalpost. This was a basic frame constructed from tubular steel with an elongated D shape protruding from the points where posts met crossbar. I seem to remember on one occasion a superb rising drive from Davie Provan (I think) flashed past the keeper and, to the delight of everyone, became firmly lodged in the D. Also, and I'm sure this will surprise no one, but if I remember rightly Hibs were first side to have green nets! Although I remember them from the early 80s I am certain these goalposts were present at Hampden long before then. I’ve also read somewhere that St Etienne and the French press blamed the square Hampden posts for their European Cup final defeat to Bayern Munich in 1976. Anyway, what little change to football do you miss?



Arsene Parcelie	12 Mar 2010, 06:10 PM Post #2
¡ǝʞɐxnɟɹnɟ ɥo Posts: 21,366 Group: Senior Member Member #2,125 Joined: 7 October 2005 Favourite all-time player Enjoy Joints, Hmm? King shall deny Crying man and Krishna loners.	Aye, you don't see many sets of goals with years and years worth of gaffer tape hanging off the crossbar these days. To answer the question, I miss the times I used to look forward to football. Now there is so much on TV that oversaturation has dulled my enjoyment. It used to be you pencilled in the "big" games you would make a point of watching months in advance. Now, there's something on every night. I also miss playing 11s.



TheHumanTorpedo	12 Mar 2010, 06:30 PM Post #3
That's the way it crumbles... cookie-wise. Posts: 6,479 Group: Backroom Staff Member #2,767 Joined: 16 January 2006	Arsene Parcelie 12 Mar 2010, 06:10 PM To answer the question, I miss the times I used to look forward to football. Now there is so much on TV that oversaturation has dulled my enjoyment. Agree 100%. It might sound daft - ungrateful? - but there was something special about the old three European trophies format when you had all the games played on the same night (Wednesday) and you had to wait for Sportsnight just to get a snatch of the highlights.



IainG	12 Mar 2010, 06:35 PM Post #4
Off treasure hunting in Holland Posts: 13,775 Group: Snr. Member Member #8,425 Joined: 24 May 2007	Checking my coupon at 5.00pm on Saturday night. Does anyone still do that?



Polbethbhoy	12 Mar 2010, 06:37 PM Post #5
wee arra peepil Posts: 930 Group: Members Member #2,420 Joined: 3 December 2005	The Parkheid floodlight pylons...when we were bairns going to a mid week euro game you could see the floodlights from miles away and to a wee nipper like myself the sight was with wonder! Also on big match days the nutters who used to risk life & limb by climing up them for a better view was a sight to behold.



baldecrunch	12 Mar 2010, 06:40 PM Post #6
First team training Posts: 281 Group: Members Member #8,021 Joined: 1 May 2007	Celtic winning games in succession.



Belgrano	12 Mar 2010, 06:59 PM Post #7
- Posts: 8,040 Group: Senior Member Member #5,524 Joined: 11 November 2006	Players with their socks rolled down around their ankles - Vialli, Waddle, Provan, even Joe Miller. You just don't see it anymore.



behan	12 Mar 2010, 07:01 PM Post #8
borstal bhoy. Posts: 11,160 Group: Snr. Member Member #20,988 Joined: 1 August 2008	The Golden Supper outside Celtic Park. RIP



Big_Bobo_Balde	12 Mar 2010, 07:08 PM Post #9
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moravcik67	12 Mar 2010, 07:09 PM Post #10
Posts: 2,528 Group: Backroom Staff Member #6,309 Joined: 6 January 2007	Getting the Evening Times late edition on a Saturday on the way home from the game and looking for the other scores at the bottom of the back page. Scoring in a game against der Hun while standing in the Jungle - being propelled forward about 20 yards worth of terracing by the celebrations, then being swept back to your original position again just as quickly. Scary as a kid, but I grew to love it. Edited by moravcik67, 12 Mar 2010, 07:09 PM.



CARLOW BHOY	12 Mar 2010, 07:10 PM Post #11
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mr_whiffy	12 Mar 2010, 07:11 PM Post #12
I'd Leave It 10 Minutes If I Were You Posts: 367 Group: Members Member #21,518 Joined: 4 September 2008 Favourite all-time player Kenny Dalglish	TheHumanTorpedo 12 Mar 2010, 05:53 PM As a young kid cheering on Celtic in the early 80s my undoubted favourites were the Hampden goalposts. The vast concrete bowl which was the old Hampden had a lot wrong with it but its sheer size was always impressive. From the terracing to the pitch, everything seemed massive and the goalposts were no different. They consisted of a huge wooden frame with the sturdiest of square posts. They looked solid, intimidating even. You wouldn’t want to get into a fight with the Hampden goalposts. Did Gordon McQueen not have a fight with said goalposts in the run up to the 1978 world cup, effectively ruling him out for the Argentinian adventure? The thing I remember from days of old is the rows and rows of the wee blue three wheelers you used to get at the games, seemed to be hundreds of the things at Celtic park and Hampden. Mind you Hampden had the space to fit in a car-park between the pitch and the stands. Beaten to it by Mr Balde* Edited by mr_whiffy, 12 Mar 2010, 07:12 PM.



murphio	12 Mar 2010, 07:11 PM Post #13
Older than dirt Posts: 29,135 Group: Snr. Member Member #127 Joined: 2 September 2004	IainG 12 Mar 2010, 06:35 PM Checking my coupon at 5.00pm on Saturday night. Does anyone still do that? In the mirror for zits, aye.



Big Gerry	12 Mar 2010, 07:12 PM Post #14
Racobee!!!! Posts: 356 Group: Members Member #17,707 Joined: 6 April 2008 Favourite all-time player Henrik Larsson	7 and by . Does anybody still play this? I used to play it all the time when I was a wee guy, but nobody I know plays it anymore. No even the weans.



TheHumanTorpedo	12 Mar 2010, 07:13 PM Post #15
That's the way it crumbles... cookie-wise. Posts: 6,479 Group: Backroom Staff Member #2,767 Joined: 16 January 2006	Belgrano 12 Mar 2010, 06:59 PM Players with their socks rolled down around their ankles - Vialli, Waddle, Provan, even Joe Miller. You just don't see it anymore. That Hampden press box



CARLOW BHOY	12 Mar 2010, 07:13 PM Post #16
First-team captain Posts: 2,998 Group: Snr. Member Member #9,964 Joined: 11 August 2007 Favourite all-time player lennon	also offical macaroon bars



DeMiTra	12 Mar 2010, 07:19 PM Post #17
underforgiven Posts: 6,989 Group: Snr. Member Member #3,006 Joined: 5 February 2006 Favourite all-time player 4. Bobby Murdoch	I used to be feart to go to Hampden when I was wee, in case that press box slid off.



Mickeybhoy84	12 Mar 2010, 07:21 PM Post #18
Living the dream Posts: 4,967 Group: Snr. Member Member #6,785 Joined: 31 January 2007	Pie stands on the terracing. Though they still have it at Hampden.



DeMiTra	12 Mar 2010, 07:23 PM Post #19
underforgiven Posts: 6,989 Group: Snr. Member Member #3,006 Joined: 5 February 2006 Favourite all-time player 4. Bobby Murdoch	Do physios still have magic sponges?



thebuzzbomb	12 Mar 2010, 07:30 PM Post #20
Occasional Substitute Posts: 669 Group: Members Member #6,064 Joined: 19 December 2006	CARLOW BHOY 12 Mar 2010, 07:13 PM also offical macaroon bars Erra macaroon bars and the spearmint chewing gum...



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