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| Topic Started: 26 Feb 2010, 01:05 AM (1,907 Views) | |
| Vil@-re@l | 26 Feb 2010, 01:05 AM Post #1 |
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After losing 4-1 in Wolfsburg (6-3 on agg.) and so out of Europa League, I think this season is "over" for Vila-real. I mean, I think we aren't playing for anything in the rest of the season (I just hope the team won't start having a bad time in league and losing some matches in a row, because then we'll be playing for something, and not something too nice). We had a really bad start to the season (we were even 20th after 6 or 7 matches, and we couldn't get a win until the 8th match), and now I see we haven't really recovered from this 100%. In Europa League, we found it harder to qualify for next round in group stages than we thought, and in this tie, we have had no chance. In Cup, we beat 2-1 on aggregate a team who plays 2 divisions lower than us, and in next round we were beaten by a 2nd division team at our own stadium. And in league, we're 10th, 9 points below Europa League positions and 9 above relegating zone. Maybe you'll say there are still a lot of matches left, but really, this team can't do it. We'd need a very big change in the players performance and attitude to do it, and I don't see this happening. In addition, it seems we don't know how to win away matches, we've only won one this season Defence is specially awful this season; for instance, we've conceded 10 goals in last 2 matches (6 last Sunday in Madrid and 4 today), and in attack we're neither doing very well. Only Nilmar seems to be improving a bit lately, he's scored 8 goals in league for the moment, but on the other hand, Rossi and Llorente are not having their best season. If I'm not wrong, they've only scored 4 goals each. And furthermore, probably you'll find this an excuse, but we are neither having good referees. In league, we've had 10 penalties against and 0 for in 22 matches. Also, for instance, today, in Wolfsburg 4th goal, there were 3 men offside. So it seems it's a mix of things what makes this bad season. I think the best Vila-real could do now is try to have a decent finish this season (at least, not to approach relegation zone much) and start to think about next season. 15 years ago, Vila-real was an average 2nd division team that had never played in 1st division. Nowadays, things are very different, and I know very well where we come from and probably this "dream" won't last forever, so I'm not making any big complaints about this. We usually qualified for European competitions last years, and had good apperances in them. Obviously things couldn't be like this every year; we were going to have a bad season some time and it seems it's this one. But I'm still a bit dissapointed about what's happening, because last summer there was lots of hope and expectation in this season. Media and fans said we had the best squad ever in our years in 1st division, a very good manager, they said we were going to qualify for CL and maybe with Cup or Europa League...and it's been exactly the opposite. If there's not a big change, this will be the worst season since 02/03. I don't know if this will be just a bad season and then we'll play good and have great seasons again, or if this is an end to these happy seasons. We'll have to wait and see. |
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| Big_Bobo_Balde | 26 Feb 2010, 01:11 AM Post #2 |
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| Tim Waits | 26 Feb 2010, 01:13 AM Post #3 |
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That's tough to take VR, but you've come to the right place if you want to talk to people who are frustrated with their team. You've probably seen how we've been talking about who to blame for our troubles this season. Do you think your team's problems are down to the players, the management, the coaches, the poor refereeing or a combination of all of it? |
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| garioch | 26 Feb 2010, 01:21 AM Post #4 |
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Yeah you had a horrific start to the season, I remember checking the league back then and thinking that you were supposed to be decent this year. Consolidate in the league and as you say avoid the drop. |
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| Vil@-re@l | 26 Feb 2010, 01:41 AM Post #5 |
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Yes, I've been watching some Celtic matches this year and I'm quite dissapointed with them too. For example I watched the game against Hamilton away (1-0 win), there were worse matches but I think 1-0 is a poor score for Celtic against such a team like Hamilton. It's even worse because the huns aren't doing a great season either, and from what I see, I think Celtic problem is due to management, coaches and players, are all responsible IMO. About Vila-real, I think it's a combination of these things you've said. Valverde wasn't the manager he was supposed to be. He never found a way of playing with this team and apparently he didn't have good relationships with some of the players. Now Garrido, he's a young and unexperienced manager in 1st division, and I think he tries the best he can do. Against Athletic three matches ago, we won 2-1 and we played decently. But now, there's also the players. As I've said, our forwards aren't having their best season at all, and defence, well...defence is awful. Gonzalo and Godin, the central defenders who used to play last season are having a terrible season; Marcano, a young defender signed last summer from Racing Santander and who did very good there, is doing just the opposite here; Ángel, right back, what to say about him...nothing good, etc. Refereeing? I can't blame all our bad season at referees, but I'm sure that in some matches maybe we could got something else if they were just decent, I'm not saying I wanted them to take bad decisions for the other team, just be good for both teams...in this 10 penalties we've had, I remember 2-3 that just weren't, and we've had none, that's really exasperating because I remember very well some quite clear ones, but you see, it seems everything is wrong for us this season. |
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| jonathan1312 | 26 Feb 2010, 02:10 AM Post #6 |
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villarreal's collapse is baffling. it can't all be down to a change of manager. |
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| CiaranOG | 26 Feb 2010, 06:19 AM Post #7 |
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It's a lot of things. But losing Nihat and Riquelme and not really replacing them have hurt them alot. |
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| antbhoy | 26 Feb 2010, 02:04 PM Post #8 |
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I think you should probably be looking for a late push for the Europa places but again just to consolidate staying in La Liga. Good luck for the rest of the season VR. |
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| diobaggio | 26 Feb 2010, 02:07 PM Post #9 |
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Giuseppe Rossi was supposed to be the new wonderboy of Italian football but it's all gone particularly flat for him. Is he just having a bad season, or is he simply not as good as all the hype had suggested? This time last year, he was a dead-cert for the World Cup squad, but I don't think he'll make it now unless he finishes the season well. |
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| mytsharp | 26 Feb 2010, 02:36 PM Post #10 |
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I remember asking you previously VR about the possibility of Pellgrini returning to El Madrigal after he his fired from Real and given that Marca seems to be running a campaign against him does that seem in any way likely? |
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| jonathan1312 | 26 Feb 2010, 02:49 PM Post #11 |
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i think he'll make it if he scores even a few goals between now and may. italy are very short of decent strikers. |
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| Vil@-re@l | 27 Feb 2010, 02:38 PM Post #12 |
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Lol, erm...I think you're quite wrong here. Riquelme left Vila-real in January 2007, and we finished that season 5th, a quite good position.The season after it, we finished 2nd, our best season ever, without Riquelme. That season Nihat became a very important man and was our topscorer, but last season he was a long time injured, only scored 1 goal in league if I'm not wrong, and we got a 5th place in the league, only 2 points below CL places, and reached quarter finals in CL, so saying that this is because we don't have Riquelme and Nihat has made me laugh. |
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| Vil@-re@l | 27 Feb 2010, 02:43 PM Post #13 |
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Well, I'm not Vila-real chairman so I don't know, but I see this quite difficult. I don't know if Pellegrini will be fired at the end of the season, and if he is, I don't think he'll come back here, since Vila-real chairman said that most probably, Garrido, our manager at the moment after Valverde's sacking, will be the manager for next season too if he makes a more or less decent work for the rest of this season. |
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| DanBhoy | 27 Feb 2010, 02:46 PM Post #14 |
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Was expecting big things from Villarreal this season.  What's happening with the manager? After Valverde getting sacked, will Garrido take the role until the end of the season to see things safely? Who do you think will be his successor, Vil@-re@l? I thought Michael Laudrup would have been a front runner... Keep your chin up mate, you have a very good team at your disposal for next season. El Submarino Amarillo
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| Vil@-re@l | 27 Feb 2010, 02:55 PM Post #15 |
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About the comments you've written about Rossi...I actually think he's a very good player and has lots of quality, but he rarely shows it in last times. In his last two seasons here, he did a very good work, he scored 11 and 12 goals in each season and made a good impression on all Vila-real fans. But last season, he started to be a bit too individualistic sometimes, for example in a move where we could probably score if he passed the ball to another player, he kept having the ball trying strange things or kicking it himself and this made some fans went exasperated with him. This season, he's scored 5 goals for the moment, but his performances haven't been so good. In addition, he's been for some weeks away in the United States since his father was very ill. Last Wednesday, sadly he died, so Rossi will be back here next week. We'll see how he'll do after this... |
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| Vil@-re@l | 27 Feb 2010, 03:06 PM Post #16 |
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Yes, Garrido will be the manager until the end of the season, and according to what the chairman said, if he makes a decent work, he'll also be the manager next season. There were already rumours of Laudrup coming here just the hours after Valverde getting sacked, but I really know nothing about this. I do think we have a good team, but things aren't going well, so I think there'll be some important changes next summer. |
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| Vil@-re@l | 1 Mar 2010, 04:43 PM Post #17 |
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Yesterday Vila-real beat Deportivo de la Coruña 1-0 at El Madrigal. It wasn't a great match but at least we won and we had a clean sheet (we have had very few this season). In first half, Vila-real was quite decent. The team made some good attacking play and in one of these moves, Llorente scored the only goal of the match, after a good combination between Nilmar and Ibagaza. Nilmar and Fuster had other two clear chances to score, but Deportivo's goalkeeper Aranzubia made some good saves. Second half was quite boring. As always, Vila-real looked like thinking it was enough with one goal, and didn't play like in first half. Deportivo had the ball possession in this half but to be honest they didn't have much clear chances to equalise, and if they had any, Vila-real played well in defence yesterday. So after this match, we lie 8th in the table, 6 points above 6th (Europa League) which is in fact Deportivo. Next match is away against Espanyol, which you may consider an easy team to beat since they are 15th, but Vila-real has been quite bad in away matches this season. We've only won one, and we were even beaten at Xerez's stadium, who are 20th, in one of the only two matches they've won. |
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| Big_Bobo_Balde | 1 Mar 2010, 04:52 PM Post #18 |
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Still the best away trip I have ever had 
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| BeastieBhoy | 1 Mar 2010, 05:00 PM Post #19 |
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Snap! Ours is too. |
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| Vil@-re@l | 1 Mar 2010, 05:03 PM Post #20 |
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I'm glad that so many Celtic fans keep such good memories from here, I also keep good memories from these matches...you know why though 
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