binkabhoy

5 Jul 2009, 04:30 PM

jack shane

5 Jul 2009, 02:13 PM

arabba11

5 Jul 2009, 01:59 PM

Quoting limited to 3 levels deep

from what i've seen and heard down here, seemingly Tony Mowbray was seriously doubting the wisdom of heading down under at pre-season and wishing aloud that he could be spending quality time locked away in a training camp, somewhere in the greenwich meantime! can't say that too many would disagree with that kind of fundamental common sense, but then again?

Aye, i also agree with the sentiments but this is an example of not giving too much away to the media. Tell them feck all. I hope TM learns this sooner rather then later.

kewlcelt

5 Jul 2009, 04:40 PM

binkabhoy

5 Jul 2009, 04:30 PM

jack shane

5 Jul 2009, 02:13 PM

Quoting limited to 3 levels deep

Aye, i also agree with the sentiments but this is an example of not giving too much away to the media. Tell them feck all. I hope TM learns this sooner rather then later.

Whats the big deal about him not being too happy about the trip?

Its ridiculous and we shouldnt be doing it, its far too long a distance to travel for one bloody game.

All because Lawell wants the cash. Its a nonsense.

And Mowbray hasnt said anything that Strachan didnt say too when we had to go to America and Japan, so again his comments are no big deal.

idyllwild

5 Jul 2009, 01:00 PM

remy mcswain

5 Jul 2009, 12:49 PM

Couldn't care less how the manager treats pre match press conferences. I do, however, want a bit of honesty when he is discussing a match in a live interview when his words cannot be edited or spun.

I'd go a bit further than that Remy...

I didn't get upset when Kenny dragged them all along to Bairds, I didn't get upset when Strachan treated them with utter contempt, and I won't care how if Mowbray is the nicest guy in the world to them. I don't really care whether he feeds them the biggest pile of shyte after a game either, or is completely open and honest.

The Celtic manager's job isn't to act a certain way with the press, it isn't to explain everything to 60,000 supporters, and it isn't to be completely honest to the media about how well we've played (or not).

As long as we have a winning team that plays entertaining football the majority of the time, that's all I'm really bothered about.

scottybhoy

5 Jul 2009, 06:32 PM

it's early days. despite appearing to, mowbray does not particularly get on with the majority of press guys and is not particularly cooperative

they'll turn soon enough

green_equals_silver

5 Jul 2009, 09:20 PM

So far Mowbray has talked a good game and told us all what we've wanted to hear.

He's talked more sense in his time at Celtic than Strachan ever did.

scottybhoy

5 Jul 2009, 06:32 PM

it's early days. despite appearing to, mowbray does not particularly get on with the majority of press guys and is not particularly cooperative

junglejamesie

5 Jul 2009, 09:35 PM

scottybhoy

5 Jul 2009, 06:32 PM

it's early days. despite appearing to, mowbray does not particularly get on with the majority of press guys and is not particularly cooperative

Actually, I'm quite glad to hear that. I agree with what several others have already said, - I
don't really care what Mowbray says to these monkeys. I didn't care that some thought
that was one of Strachans failures.

A winning team and some decent fitba to watch is more important.



JJ

cartuja

5 Jul 2009, 05:48 PM

When MON spoke to the press there was a hush in the pub to listen to him. When Strachan spoke the general chat continued while he was on. Both men told the Press 100% of diddly-squat.

It is not what the manager says as much as the way they conduct themselves which is important to Celtic fans. I'll bet there's a hush in the pub each time Tony Mowbray talks to the Press this season even although he will be giving up MUCH more than MON ever did. It's easier to respect someone, even if you sometimes don't agree with them, when you understand and sympathise with their motives.

MON said/did what he did to protect and project the reputation of Celtic. Strachan said/did what he did to protect and project the reputation Strachan. In Mowbray, I sense that we have someone who will protect and project the reputation of the club even if he is taking a vastly different approach to the Press than that of MON.

He will, no doubt, become increasingly cynical as he witnesses his words being distorted but I feel that, overall, he will maintain his 'open' demeanour. If he doesn't, I will be happy to assume it will be to protect Celtic rather than any worry about self-image.

nowonder

5 Jul 2009, 09:50 PM

cartuja

5 Jul 2009, 05:48 PM

When MON spoke to the press there was a hush in the pub to listen to him. When Strachan spoke the general chat continued while he was on. Both men told the Press 100% of diddly-squat.

It is not what the manager says as much as the way they conduct themselves which is important to Celtic fans. I'll bet there's a hush in the pub each time Tony Mowbray talks to the Press this season even although he will be giving up MUCH more than MON ever did. It's easier to respect someone, even if you sometimes don't agree with them, when you understand and sympathise with their motives.

MON said/did what he did to protect and project the reputation of Celtic. Strachan said/did what he did to protect and project the reputation Strachan. In Mowbray, I sense that we have someone who will protect and project the reputation of the club even if he is taking a vastly different approach to the Press than that of MON.

He will, no doubt, become increasingly cynical as he witnesses his words being distorted but I feel that, overall, he will maintain his 'open' demeanour. If he doesn't, I will be happy to assume it will be to protect Celtic rather than any worry about self-image.

MON and Strachan took a similar line with the Scottish media but MON was motivated by Celtic's best interests while Strachan was motivated by self interest ? That was a perception alright but there's not much evidence it was true.The Scottish media are at it already with the McManus question just as they were at it for example when they used a whispering campaign by Celtic fans that Strachan had chucked it to try and undermine Celtic at a crucial stage of the championship two seasons ago.Hopefully that kind of unofficial alliance beteween a media and a support who are supposed to hate each other is a thing of the past.

cartuja

5 Jul 2009, 09:57 PM

The only alliance, which I can see, is the uneasy alliance of two commercial entities (the Press and Celtic PLC). I don't think the Press and the Celtic support have jumped into bed together in recent history. The nearest we got to that was the numpties who booed Fergus McCann on League Flag Day. Hopefully, with the benefit of internet forums, we are in a more enlightened age as supporters.

nowonder

5 Jul 2009, 09:50 PM

cartuja

5 Jul 2009, 05:48 PM

When MON spoke to the press there was a hush in the pub to listen to him. When Strachan spoke the general chat continued while he was on. Both men told the Press 100% of diddly-squat.

It is not what the manager says as much as the way they conduct themselves which is important to Celtic fans. I'll bet there's a hush in the pub each time Tony Mowbray talks to the Press this season even although he will be giving up MUCH more than MON ever did. It's easier to respect someone, even if you sometimes don't agree with them, when you understand and sympathise with their motives.

MON said/did what he did to protect and project the reputation of Celtic. Strachan said/did what he did to protect and project the reputation Strachan. In Mowbray, I sense that we have someone who will protect and project the reputation of the club even if he is taking a vastly different approach to the Press than that of MON.

He will, no doubt, become increasingly cynical as he witnesses his words being distorted but I feel that, overall, he will maintain his 'open' demeanour. If he doesn't, I will be happy to assume it will be to protect Celtic rather than any worry about self-image.

MON and Strachan took a similar line with the Scottish media but MON was motivated by Celtic's best interests while Strachan was motivated by self interest ? That was a perception alright but there's not much evidence it was true.The Scottish media are at it already with the McManus question just as they were at it for example when they used a whispering campaign by Celtic fans that Strachan had chucked it to try and undermine Celtic at a crucial stage of the championship two seasons ago.Hopefully that kind of unofficial alliance beteween a media and a support who are supposed to hate each other is a thing of the past.

cartuja

5 Jul 2009, 09:50 PM

My patience ran out with Strachan over footballing issues but, in retrospect, I realise that his dealings with the press were rooted in his own ego rather than the good of Celtic. Along with the poor footballing decisions, it was pretty central to the general anti-Strachan sentiment whether people realised it at the time or not. For that reason, I don't think you can underestimate the non-football side of the Celtic manager's persona/abilities.

big doc frae greenock

5 Jul 2009, 10:13 PM

nowonder

5 Jul 2009, 09:50 PM

cartuja

5 Jul 2009, 05:48 PM

When MON spoke to the press there was a hush in the pub to listen to him. When Strachan spoke the general chat continued while he was on. Both men told the Press 100% of diddly-squat.

It is not what the manager says as much as the way they conduct themselves which is important to Celtic fans. I'll bet there's a hush in the pub each time Tony Mowbray talks to the Press this season even although he will be giving up MUCH more than MON ever did. It's easier to respect someone, even if you sometimes don't agree with them, when you understand and sympathise with their motives.

MON said/did what he did to protect and project the reputation of Celtic. Strachan said/did what he did to protect and project the reputation Strachan. In Mowbray, I sense that we have someone who will protect and project the reputation of the club even if he is taking a vastly different approach to the Press than that of MON.

He will, no doubt, become increasingly cynical as he witnesses his words being distorted but I feel that, overall, he will maintain his 'open' demeanour. If he doesn't, I will be happy to assume it will be to protect Celtic rather than any worry about self-image.

MON and Strachan took a similar line with the Scottish media but MON was motivated by Celtic's best interests while Strachan was motivated by self interest ? That was a perception alright but there's not much evidence it was true.The Scottish media are at it already with the McManus question just as they were at it for example when they used a whispering campaign by Celtic fans that Strachan had chucked it to try and undermine Celtic at a crucial stage of the championship two seasons ago.Hopefully that kind of unofficial alliance beteween a media and a support who are supposed to hate each other is a thing of the past.

Dear old Saint Martin and his protection of Celtic. Of course it never went so far as to deny the rumours that he was leaving every season after his second (you have the ego Gordon I'll take the dough ). Or of course not offering Bobo (a man with no legal, accountancy nor agency advice) a contract that was better than the Euromillions win and also you could leave it if you wanted but we couldn't get rid of you but would be an anchor around our necks until the day before yesterday and probably later. St Martin whose chief ambition was to be manager of England. Oh how we laughed at his irony.

Everyday Tony Mowbray in the media is looking more and more like the mug I fear he is and we'll play brilliant football with young kids with bad hair and a worse attitude to the point that we're lucky to get fifth.

Why TF did he get involved in the Captain debate before he's spoken to McManus? Why is he hanging around Fortune like Julia Roberts around Richard Gere? Why doesn't he shut up and do something instead of talking to the media? Very interesting questions?

Hope I am wrong.

big doc frae greenock

5 Jul 2009, 10:13 PM

nowonder

5 Jul 2009, 09:50 PM

cartuja

5 Jul 2009, 05:48 PM

When MON spoke to the press there was a hush in the pub to listen to him. When Strachan spoke the general chat continued while he was on. Both men told the Press 100% of diddly-squat.

It is not what the manager says as much as the way they conduct themselves which is important to Celtic fans. I'll bet there's a hush in the pub each time Tony Mowbray talks to the Press this season even although he will be giving up MUCH more than MON ever did. It's easier to respect someone, even if you sometimes don't agree with them, when you understand and sympathise with their motives.

MON said/did what he did to protect and project the reputation of Celtic. Strachan said/did what he did to protect and project the reputation Strachan. In Mowbray, I sense that we have someone who will protect and project the reputation of the club even if he is taking a vastly different approach to the Press than that of MON.

He will, no doubt, become increasingly cynical as he witnesses his words being distorted but I feel that, overall, he will maintain his 'open' demeanour. If he doesn't, I will be happy to assume it will be to protect Celtic rather than any worry about self-image.

MON and Strachan took a similar line with the Scottish media but MON was motivated by Celtic's best interests while Strachan was motivated by self interest ? That was a perception alright but there's not much evidence it was true.The Scottish media are at it already with the McManus question just as they were at it for example when they used a whispering campaign by Celtic fans that Strachan had chucked it to try and undermine Celtic at a crucial stage of the championship two seasons ago.Hopefully that kind of unofficial alliance beteween a media and a support who are supposed to hate each other is a thing of the past.

Dear old Saint Martin and his protection of Celtic. Of course it never went so far as to deny the rumours that he was leaving every season after his second (you have the ego Gordon I'll take the dough ). Or of course not offering Bobo (a man with no legal, accountancy nor agency advice) a contract that was better than the Euromillions win and also you could leave it if you wanted but we couldn't get rid of you but would be an anchor around our necks until the day before yesterday and probably later. St Martin whose chief ambition was to be manager of England. Oh how we laughed at his irony.

Everyday Tony Mowbray in the media is looking more and more like the mug I fear he is and we'll play brilliant football with young kids with bad hair and a worse attitude to the point that we're lucky to get fifth.

Why TF did he get involved in the Captain debate before he's spoken to McManus? Why is he hanging around Fortune like Julia Roberts around Richard Gere? Why doesn't he shut up and do something instead of talking to the media? Very interesting questions?

Hope I am wrong.

junglejamesie

5 Jul 2009, 10:21 PM

I hear what you're saying but wouldn't you concede that MONs dealings with the Scottish
fitba muppets were also rooted in his own ego? He knew they hated him so he sat there
and spoke at them for an hour whilst telling them the square root of hee-bastarding-haw?
You could point to that and say you found it mildy irritating...

big doc frae greenock

5 Jul 2009, 10:13 PM

nowonder

5 Jul 2009, 09:50 PM

cartuja

5 Jul 2009, 05:48 PM

When MON spoke to the press there was a hush in the pub to listen to him. When Strachan spoke the general chat continued while he was on. Both men told the Press 100% of diddly-squat.

It is not what the manager says as much as the way they conduct themselves which is important to Celtic fans. I'll bet there's a hush in the pub each time Tony Mowbray talks to the Press this season even although he will be giving up MUCH more than MON ever did. It's easier to respect someone, even if you sometimes don't agree with them, when you understand and sympathise with their motives.

MON said/did what he did to protect and project the reputation of Celtic. Strachan said/did what he did to protect and project the reputation Strachan. In Mowbray, I sense that we have someone who will protect and project the reputation of the club even if he is taking a vastly different approach to the Press than that of MON.

He will, no doubt, become increasingly cynical as he witnesses his words being distorted but I feel that, overall, he will maintain his 'open' demeanour. If he doesn't, I will be happy to assume it will be to protect Celtic rather than any worry about self-image.

MON and Strachan took a similar line with the Scottish media but MON was motivated by Celtic's best interests while Strachan was motivated by self interest ? That was a perception alright but there's not much evidence it was true.The Scottish media are at it already with the McManus question just as they were at it for example when they used a whispering campaign by Celtic fans that Strachan had chucked it to try and undermine Celtic at a crucial stage of the championship two seasons ago.Hopefully that kind of unofficial alliance beteween a media and a support who are supposed to hate each other is a thing of the past.

Dear old Saint Martin and his protection of Celtic. Of course it never went so far as to deny the rumours that he was leaving every season after his second (you have the ego Gordon I'll take the dough ). Or of course not offering Bobo (a man with no legal, accountancy nor agency advice) a contract that was better than the Euromillions win and also you could leave it if you wanted but we couldn't get rid of you but would be an anchor around our necks until the day before yesterday and probably later. St Martin whose chief ambition was to be manager of England. Oh how we laughed at his irony.

Everyday Tony Mowbray in the media is looking more and more like the mug I fear he is and we'll play brilliant football with young kids with bad hair and a worse attitude to the point that we're lucky to get fifth.

Why TF did he get involved in the Captain debate before he's spoken to McManus? Why is he hanging around Fortune like Julia Roberts around Richard Gere? Why doesn't he shut up and do something instead of talking to the media? Very interesting questions?

Hope I am wrong.