murphio

5 Dec 2008, 01:27 PM

TC67

5 Dec 2008, 01:14 PM

efann

5 Dec 2008, 10:23 AM

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The point of the the article in the Celtic View is that he wasn't sufficiently qualified to comment on Celtic in Europe (but John Hartson was).

The point I'm making is that he's more qualified than those deriding him.

Of course you are right but given the personal nature of the criticism of Lawwell - talking about his salary increase, ego and other things - then it was only natural he was going to get some back. Charlie is some man to be talking about an inflated ego, right enough. Paul McStay didnt win any European medals - Im quite sure though that the club would feel he is more than entitled to have a view. This isnt about medals, or talent, or success or anything else. Its about someone who, it appears, has an axe to grind and is using his position in the media to have a pop at Celtic on a regular basis.
If Wayne Biggins came out and criticised Scott McDonald - would I not be in a position to comment on the hipocrisy of it even though Biggins has done more in professional football than I ever have?

TC67

5 Dec 2008, 02:08 PM

I know who I think knows more about football in general and what it takes to play for Celtic.

murphio

5 Dec 2008, 02:16 PM

TC67

5 Dec 2008, 02:08 PM

I know who I think knows more about football in general and what it takes to play for Celtic.

I think if you read the adversisement for the Situation Vacant it makes no mention of 'playing for Celtic'. It does however question what people like Charlie know about running a football club which is entirely fair comment. He may have pulled the jersey over his head but does that qualify him to talk about finance and other things in the public domain which, if they were explained to him, would likely sail over the top of his napper?

paddygarcia

5 Dec 2008, 02:24 PM

murphio

5 Dec 2008, 02:16 PM

TC67

5 Dec 2008, 02:08 PM

I know who I think knows more about football in general and what it takes to play for Celtic.

I think if you read the adversisement for the Situation Vacant it makes no mention of 'playing for Celtic'. It does however question what people like Charlie know about running a football club which is entirely fair comment. He may have pulled the jersey over his head but does that qualify him to talk about finance and other things in the public domain which, if they were explained to him, would likely sail over the top of his napper?

Murph, I've never played for the first team but I know, you know, feckin Ray Charles knows, we've needed a left back for two years. You don't have to have been a CEO to know that.

He gets paid to voice an opinion. He said his piece which you can either agree or disagree with. For the Club to respond in this manner is unbecoming of it, and the manner of some of the accusations by a no mark MC was a disgrace.

murphio

5 Dec 2008, 02:16 PM

TC67

5 Dec 2008, 02:08 PM

I know who I think knows more about football in general and what it takes to play for Celtic.

I think if you read the adversisement for the Situation Vacant it makes no mention of 'playing for Celtic'. It does however question what people like Charlie know about running a football club which is entirely fair comment. He may have pulled the jersey over his head but does that qualify him to talk about finance and other things in the public domain which, if they were explained to him, would likely sail over the top of his napper?

GoldenBhoy

5 Dec 2008, 02:32 PM

i actually dont think Charlie said anything out of order after the match tbh.

TC67

5 Dec 2008, 02:08 PM

Big Drew

5 Dec 2008, 01:22 PM

conorbhoy88

5 Dec 2008, 01:19 PM

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Not really. If I was paid by a newspaper and TV company to spout pish then you'd be right. But I am entitled to have my views on whether Charlie is a charlie or not.

Of course you are. I'm not talking about your opinion.

I'm talking about the club magazine attacking former players for the comments, and using the most pathetic of arguments for their justification. Covered them all earlier, so I'm not going to do it again.

Charlie may well talk pish on occasions, as do we all. I don't think those who penned the article are really in a position to denigrate his achievements on the pitch for Celtic, when all they are doing is the exact same as the man they are denigrating, getting paid for their opinions. I know who I think knows more about football in general and what it takes to play for Celtic.

dennybhoy

5 Dec 2008, 02:58 PM

GoldenBhoy

5 Dec 2008, 02:32 PM

i actually dont think Charlie said anything out of order after the match tbh.

thats debateable on here gb eh

tjcjn67

4 Dec 2008, 10:58 PM

GWB

4 Dec 2008, 09:13 PM

I've been buying pravda in it's various guises every week during the season for nigh on a quarter of a century. Before that my faither used to bring it into the house.

I remember some of the shampoo you used to get in it, including the likes of Jock Talk and crap like that. But in all my time I have rarely seen such puerile nonsense. Let's not forget that only a few months ago our esteemed manger himself refused to give any direct quotes for a while to the likes of cuddihy and hamilton. Yep Celtic's own manager told pravda to GTF.

I'm wondering why there was no "witty" digs at wee gordon after he threw the toys out of the pram?

After nicholas echoes the views of many Tims about how Celtic have lacked the necessary investment and how lawwell seems to be getting an ego to match dodgy dave he is hit with this nonsense. I'm sure the great peter would be chuffed at his wee laddis getting the digs in via the view. Well done cuddy.

It's entirely appropriate that if the front cover of pravda is page 1 that cuddihy's editorials always appear on page 3. I've yet to see a bigger pair of t!ts than this guy and his pal hamilton.

I've yet to see a bigger pair of t!ts than this guy and his pal hamilton.

i have YOU.
you sound like an embittered ex employee, who was let go for being a twit.
let's set the record straight WGS NEVER once refused to talk to pravda, he said at the end of the season that he wanted a break from all media after the sad events that the team had to cope with, pre season he was back talking to the view. so get your facts correct before you shout about stuff you know nothing about.

SilkyHoops

5 Dec 2008, 07:06 PM

The problem is that Charlie Nicholas is an Uncle Tim who has had an obsession for sticking the boot in
Celtic for years now, waging an unrelenting campaign of bitter vitriol and invective, which must be dismaying for the club
which once paid his wages in speck before he ran away and grabbed Arsenal's shekels.
Nicholas in my opinion is a two bit jerk who gets off in harming Celtic at every turn. And as another poster has already
said, his comments about * totties * was beyond the pale.If he gives it out so readily, he should be ready to take it on the chin back like a man.

SilkyHoops

5 Dec 2008, 07:06 PM

The problem is that Charlie Nicholas is an Uncle Tim who has had an obsession for sticking the boot in
Celtic for years now, waging an unrelenting campaign of bitter vitriol and invective, which must be dismaying for the club
which once paid his wages in speck before he ran away and grabbed Arsenal's shekels.
Nicholas in my opinion is a two bit jerk who gets off in harming Celtic at every turn. And as another poster has already
said, his comments about * totties * was beyond the pale.If he gives it out so readily, he should be ready to take it on the chin back like a man.

paddygarcia

5 Dec 2008, 07:31 PM

SilkyHoops

5 Dec 2008, 07:06 PM

The problem is that Charlie Nicholas is an Uncle Tim who has had an obsession for sticking the boot in
Celtic for years now, waging an unrelenting campaign of bitter vitriol and invective, which must be dismaying for the club
which once paid his wages in speck before he ran away and grabbed Arsenal's shekels.
Nicholas in my opinion is a two bit jerk who gets off in harming Celtic at every turn. And as another poster has already
said, his comments about * totties * was beyond the pale.If he gives it out so readily, he should be ready to take it on the chin back like a man.

You, sir, are a tit.

If you give it out so readily...

TC67

5 Dec 2008, 09:13 AM

SilkyHoops

4 Dec 2008, 08:55 PM

I think what Hamilton is alluding to is that Nicholas's head is stuck so far up his own arse
that his views are somewhat redundant.

What has Hamilton done in the game that allows him to question the validity of Nicholas's? I can't recall the 'crucial' goals he scored in Europe.

tjcjn67

5 Dec 2008, 08:00 PM

TC67

5 Dec 2008, 09:13 AM

SilkyHoops

4 Dec 2008, 08:55 PM

I think what Hamilton is alluding to is that Nicholas's head is stuck so far up his own arse
that his views are somewhat redundant.

What has Hamilton done in the game that allows him to question the validity of Nicholas's? I can't recall the 'crucial' goals he scored in Europe.

not the point what he "has done in the game", like keevins, broadfoot, cameron, all the other media plums they are paid to write / talk about football, you may not agree with what they say, but that disnae mean they can't have an opinion.

if you don't like what's being said then stop reading / listening to it,
you have an opinion, does that mean you should only be take serious if you have "scored goals in Europe" catch yerself,

take it as it is, a bit of fun

GWB

5 Dec 2008, 06:18 PM

tjcjn67

4 Dec 2008, 10:58 PM

GWB

4 Dec 2008, 09:13 PM

I've been buying pravda in it's various guises every week during the season for nigh on a quarter of a century. Before that my faither used to bring it into the house.

I remember some of the shampoo you used to get in it, including the likes of Jock Talk and crap like that. But in all my time I have rarely seen such puerile nonsense. Let's not forget that only a few months ago our esteemed manger himself refused to give any direct quotes for a while to the likes of cuddihy and hamilton. Yep Celtic's own manager told pravda to GTF.

I'm wondering why there was no "witty" digs at wee gordon after he threw the toys out of the pram?

After nicholas echoes the views of many Tims about how Celtic have lacked the necessary investment and how lawwell seems to be getting an ego to match dodgy dave he is hit with this nonsense. I'm sure the great peter would be chuffed at his wee laddis getting the digs in via the view. Well done cuddy.

It's entirely appropriate that if the front cover of pravda is page 1 that cuddihy's editorials always appear on page 3. I've yet to see a bigger pair of t!ts than this guy and his pal hamilton.

I've yet to see a bigger pair of t!ts than this guy and his pal hamilton.

i have YOU.
you sound like an embittered ex employee, who was let go for being a twit.
let's set the record straight WGS NEVER once refused to talk to pravda, he said at the end of the season that he wanted a break from all media after the sad events that the team had to cope with, pre season he was back talking to the view. so get your facts correct before you shout about stuff you know nothing about.

Come on now Tony/Paul, you know and I know that is an absolute pile of dog poo.

Firstly I have never been in the employment of Pravda or any other body associated with Celtic. Secondly you must have selective memory or else mine is going because I'm sure that I saw strachan cosying up to Gary and the lads at Euro 08 - so his "break from all media" as you put it obviously excluded his nice wee gig at Austria/Switzerland with the beeb then?

I have seen a reliable poster on here confirm that there was aggro between gordy and tony. Do you really think they would admit it in public?

The fact is that in the first few editions of Pravda this season as well as the final one of last season when it should have been strachan's duty to talk to the official club publication, he blanked them. Even if what you say is true, the Celtic View is the official club magazine and regular readers should have been entitled to some comments from him even if he was KBing the media in general.

Getting back on topic now, if the likes of cuddihy and hamilton want to dish out the abuse then they have to expect some in return when they pull stunts such as this. The general state of the production has been steadily declining for a while now and with all due respect to pravda's minions I don't pay £2.25 to read whether some U17 lad prefers Angela Jolie to Jennifer Arniston.

HolyGoaly

4 Dec 2008, 10:03 PM

PolesMeanGoals

4 Dec 2008, 03:15 PM

Re: the point that Nicholas was only saying what we all think - there's a big difference between a supporter criticising the way their money is spent and the constant criticism coming from a man who only ever watches Celtic when he's paid to be there.

Gonny explain the difference?

edited to add:

Take it that means Graeme Speirs' (as an example)opinion disnae count?