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John McGinn; Initial bid rejected by Hibs (confirmed by Garry Parker)
Topic Started: 4 Jul 2018, 09:10 PM (37,906 Views)
Tam Haas
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£3m with a year left on his contract - that would make him worth, what, £5m with a few years on his contract?

Not a fecking chance.

I’m not keen on this at all & no way should we be going anywhere near £3m.
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8 Jul 2018, 03:41 PM
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8 Jul 2018, 03:29 PM
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8 Jul 2018, 03:21 PM

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Scott Alan was a Championship player who was signed on a whim to bulk up the squad and annoy Rangers. McGinn by all accounts has a great Premiership season and has a bit of the box-to-box running we are lacking now Armstrong has left. I am fully on board with seeing if McGinn can grow to be the player who can fill that gap, even if the price is steeper than we'd like.
He will be 24 this year. Not a lot of growing left. And he is pish.
I get not everyone fancies him and we have other options in that position, but to call him 'pish' or 'shampooe at football' is laughable.
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We already have a £3m player who hardly ever gets a game in Eboue Kouassi there's no need to add another to the collection.
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Martin19
8 Jul 2018, 03:41 PM
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8 Jul 2018, 03:29 PM
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8 Jul 2018, 03:21 PM

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Scott Alan was a Championship player who was signed on a whim to bulk up the squad and annoy Rangers. McGinn by all accounts has a great Premiership season and has a bit of the box-to-box running we are lacking now Armstrong has left. I am fully on board with seeing if McGinn can grow to be the player who can fill that gap, even if the price is steeper than we'd like.
He will be 24 this year. Not a lot of growing left. And he is pish.
There’s definitely a lot of growth left in a player when he joins a club with better coaches, facilities, teammates etc.

Look at Armstrong Boyata Griffiths etc. Not wains when we signed them but they improved tenfold working at Celtic.
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McGinn is experienced at this level something scott allan was not when we bought him

plus with the better manager and coaching staff this time i don't think he will be another allan
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8 Jul 2018, 12:40 PM
Can’t help but think that Hibs are right to hold out for 3m in this instance.

We just sold a player who wasn’t even in our first XI for £7m. Nearly everyone on here would have been happy with 3 at the time.
It would be better to have him in and around the squad ASAP if he is coming, he will develop far quicker with better players around him.

That’s a bit more useful than wasting 6 months for the sake of £1m which by our standards is becoming an increasingly less significant amount.
Anyone who would've been happy with £3million for Armstrong was an idiot. Same as being happy going to £3million for McGinn is idiotic. Different players & different markets.
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8 Jul 2018, 01:51 PM
Kouassi’s better and is already ours.
Correct :thumbsup:
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8 Jul 2018, 04:48 PM
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8 Jul 2018, 01:51 PM
Kouassi’s better and is already ours.
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eboue is nothing like mcginn as a player. completely different types

looks like he will be away for season anyway whilst mcginn is playing for us
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Gonga
8 Jul 2018, 02:32 PM
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8 Jul 2018, 12:58 PM
Gonga
8 Jul 2018, 12:40 PM
Can’t help but think that Hibs are right to hold out for 3m in this instance.

We just sold a player who wasn’t even in our first XI for £7m. Nearly everyone on here would have been happy with 3 at the time.
It would be better to have him in and around the squad ASAP if he is coming, he will develop far quicker with better players around him.

That’s a bit more useful than wasting 6 months for the sake of £1m which by our standards is becoming an increasingly less significant amount.

Hibs can 'hold out' for whatever they want. That's their prerogative.

Why would we pay £3m for a player who is not going to go straight into our first team ? Particularly if we can get the same player for £500k in January or for nothing in June ?

Just because we have money does not mean that we should be giving it away.

And if Hibs then choose to sideline McGinn for this season, at least it means he won't get the dreaded career-ending injury that people are worrying about. Unless it happens when he is training with the youths because these career-ending injuries can happen at any time...


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What if 6 months experience in and around our first team squad and getting a couple of champions league appearances meant his value would likely be worth more than what we would be trying to stiff Hibs for.

What is the point in letting him play a half arsed 6 months at Hibs, and why would Hibs even bother to play him.
We’d need at least one injury before McGinn plays in the CL.

What if playing for us drives his value up to more than we paid for him? Who gives a eff.

Hibs would still play him because he would still be their best player.
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8 Jul 2018, 03:29 PM
McGinn by all accounts has a great Premiership season
Did he? Their players player of the year and player of the year went to McGeoch, who we released. I know that doesn't make McGinn crap by default but it does give you an idea of his level. We'd be mad to pay any more than £1m for him imo and even then I wouldn't go that far. Hibs can ask all they want but they are the weakest hand in this particular game of poker and no amount of bluffing will change that. We want the player it seems and he wants to come to us. We by and large will dictate to them and not vice versa.
Edited by PMSW, 8 Jul 2018, 05:04 PM.
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I don’t think we should up our bid, he’s nowhere near worth what Hibs are looking for.
McGinn has bulked up a lot within 12 months or so and it’s had an effect on his movement, 20 yellows last season suggests he’s either slowing up or indisciplined. A lot of those cards will change colour when he’s wearing the Hoops.

I’m no a fan but Rodgers obviously thinks he can improve him, time will tell.
Edited by Dubz, 8 Jul 2018, 05:12 PM.
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8 Jul 2018, 04:57 PM
eboue is nothing like mcginn as a player. completely different types

looks like he will be away for season anyway whilst mcginn is playing for us
Spend £3m on a player who the manager says will be Scott Brown's replacement.

Rarely play him.

After 1 and half seasons of him mostly sitting on the bench or in the stands we send him out on loan.

Returns to the club, rarely plays.

Send him out on loan again.

Returns to club in final year of contract...

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We can hold off & (potentially) sign him on a free in just a few months, while letting him get the games with Hibs this season. If Hibs are looking for a fee of £3m then thats their business, wouldnt be spending that much, especially when we're supposedly offering Scott Allan as well.

I seriously dont see the rush. I do hope he continues to do well for Hibs & keeps developing from proper game time.
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If Hibs are baulking at Allan's wages & putting them off him as a make weight - could or would we contribute some of Allan's wages as a solution?
Mind you, it's not like we're skint anyway - but might be an idea to get Allan away too (if he's not in our plans?)
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If Brendan and our better coaches , better facilities , improved team-mates etc can make McGinn better , why can't they make Kouassi and Allan better ? Maybe try that.

Just a thought .

Personally i like McGinn and i'd sign him. 2.5 million , final bid.
Edited by TheGloryYears, 8 Jul 2018, 06:17 PM.
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8 Jul 2018, 06:17 PM
If Brendan and our better coaches , better facilities , improved team-mates etc can make McGinn better , why can't they make Kouassi and Allan better ? Maybe try that.

Just a thought .

Personally i like McGinn and i'd sign him. 2.5 million , final bid.
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TheGloryYears
8 Jul 2018, 06:17 PM
If Brendan and our better coaches , better facilities , improved team-mates etc can make McGinn better , why can't they make Kouassi and Allan better ? Maybe try that.

Just a thought .

Personally i like McGinn and i'd sign him. 2.5 million , final bid.

That will be very frustrating for Rod Petrie.

Your bid is significantly higher than Celtic's.

But McGinn has no interest in signing for you.

In fact he suspects that you're not even a football club.


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8 Jul 2018, 06:30 PM
TheGloryYears
8 Jul 2018, 06:17 PM
If Brendan and our better coaches , better facilities , improved team-mates etc can make McGinn better , why can't they make Kouassi and Allan better ? Maybe try that.

Just a thought .

Personally i like McGinn and i'd sign him. 2.5 million , final bid.

That will be very frustrating for Rod Petrie.

Your bid is significantly higher than Celtic's.

But McGinn has no interest in signing for you.

In fact he suspects that you're not even a football club.


Time for TheGloryYears to release a statement
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8 Jul 2018, 05:29 PM
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8 Jul 2018, 04:57 PM
eboue is nothing like mcginn as a player. completely different types

looks like he will be away for season anyway whilst mcginn is playing for us
Spend £3m on a player who the manager says will be Scott Brown's replacement.

Rarely play him.

After 1 and half seasons of him mostly sitting on the bench or in the stands we send him out on loan.

Returns to the club, rarely plays.

Send him out on loan again.

Returns to club in final year of contract...

Who is this referring to?
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