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| Unfair/Stupid Rules in Football; Time for a change? | |
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| Topic Started: 3 Jul 2018, 09:18 PM (6,023 Views) | |
| El Toro | 3 Jul 2018, 09:18 PM Post #1 |
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Mentioned a few of these in the England match thread. Why are penalties given for slight fouls in some random area of the penalty box? (I understand that it's called the 'penalty' box.) How does that deserve a free shot on goal? It skews so many results where teams don't deserve anything from the game. Would indirect free-kicks not be a better idea? Bookings leading to bans in big tournaments. Why are players missing out on the biggest matches of their careers for picking up bookings? Many of which are underserved and can't be appealed. A red card, fair enough, but two minor infractions mean you miss the biggest game of your life? There must be a few more.. Edited by El Toro, 3 Jul 2018, 09:20 PM.
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| El Toro | 3 Jul 2018, 09:29 PM Post #2 |
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First name on the team-sheet
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Meant to add, I'm not anti-penalty, just think they should only be given for the obstruction of clear goalscoring opportunities. |
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| El Toro | 3 Jul 2018, 09:40 PM Post #3 |
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I see this is really taking off. I'll add another couple. Retrospective action on diving. Goalkeepers coming off their line at penalties. Nothing is done about either of these 'rules'. |
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| TheGloryYears | 3 Jul 2018, 09:52 PM Post #4 |
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Retired and now a BT Sports pundit
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It might take off , folk watching the game the now ive a couple for later |
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| barrybhoy | 3 Jul 2018, 09:53 PM Post #5 |
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Off treasure hunting in Holland
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I think that makes it too vague, imo. I would do away with shoot outs to end matches/ties. Make teams win trying to win, not trying to draw a match and win a shoot out. Play the first 30 minutes of extra time as now, then after wards make it golden goal and let teams use all unused subs. Would be so much better than seeing teams just hold out and hope they can win something unrelated to the actual match. Other than that I don't have too much beef about football's rules. |
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| Dr_Optimist | 3 Jul 2018, 10:01 PM Post #6 |
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Aka 'The Thesis'
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Take away any ambiguity about the handball rule. Hits your hand(s) = foul. |
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| El Toro | 3 Jul 2018, 10:03 PM Post #7 |
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Ok. Let's say we get Rosenborg in the next round. We pummel them with, I don't know, 40 shots, 20 on target over the two legs. They manage a few shots over the course of the tie. We have 70/30% possession. They get a corner, Boyata accidentally clips someone's foot at the very edge of the box, right at the by-line when there's absolutely no danger at all. They get a penalty - a free shot on goal for absolutely nothing that they have created - score and go through. Is that a fair reflection of who the better team was and who deserved to go through? |
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| drks | 3 Jul 2018, 10:03 PM Post #8 |
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i can't decide!
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Denying an obvious goal should be an automatic goal, not a penalty and a red card, certainly not a penalty and a booking as it is under the newer rule. |
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| Milton | 3 Jul 2018, 10:04 PM Post #9 |
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Considering retirement
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I'm a fan of the penalties if it stops the typical manhandling that some teams always seem to get away with in the box. There has definitely been a massive lack of retrospective action on diving that is annoying though. There needs to be something done about it. |
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| El Toro | 3 Jul 2018, 10:04 PM Post #10 |
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First name on the team-sheet
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Nah. It's got to be intentional. Do away with the 'hand in an unnatural position'? Yes. |
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| TheGloryYears | 3 Jul 2018, 10:04 PM Post #11 |
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1. Throw ins. Scrap them. Its the only time an outfield player can touch the ball with his hands , totally pointless. Ball gets placed on the touchline at point of exit and kicked back into play. You'd get more goals/excitement etc as more balls could be fired into the box with speed and accuracy ( apart from by us !) . 2. Substitutes Still only 3 allowed but a player taken off for tactical reasons ( or a minor niggle which has cleared up) can come back on later in the game . Example : Moussa having a nightmare , taken off on 65 minutes . Replaced by Griff . 10 minutes to go , a goal down , if we have made only 2 substitutions then defender comes off , we go 3 at the back and Moussa can come back on . |
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| Dr_Optimist | 3 Jul 2018, 10:04 PM Post #12 |
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Aka 'The Thesis'
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How do you prove/judge intent? |
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| Kingslim | 3 Jul 2018, 10:05 PM Post #13 |
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69 and counting
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Second phase is a load of shampooe. The player offside shouldn’t be allowed to take any further part in the attacking move |
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| hazy | 3 Jul 2018, 10:06 PM Post #14 |
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Getting on a bit
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You’re going to have to first come up with a sensible way to decide what is and is not a ‘“clear goal scoring opportunity”. It would largely ruin the game i’m afraid Edited by hazy, 3 Jul 2018, 10:06 PM.
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| The Gorbals Urchin | 3 Jul 2018, 10:06 PM Post #15 |
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Retired and now a BT Sports pundit
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The penalty that Croatia missed the guy waiting to tap it in I would like to see a goal given especially now the fouling player stayed on the park. |
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| El Toro | 3 Jul 2018, 10:07 PM Post #16 |
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You can't prove it. But you can't prove most fouls. Common sense. You'll get some wrong, but there' will be an improvement. |
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| El Toro | 3 Jul 2018, 10:09 PM Post #17 |
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I'm not saying the idea is perfect. It'd pretty much be up to the ref. Bit like the 'denying a goalscoring opportunity' we have now. Will get more right than wrong and will be slightly more fair if nothing else. |
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| Fly Pelican | 3 Jul 2018, 10:10 PM Post #18 |
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The nascent 45
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Just legalise diving and roids and get on with it |
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| corsica1968 | 3 Jul 2018, 10:11 PM Post #19 |
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Occasional Substitute
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Yes. Read the rules. |
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| JohnRobertson | 3 Jul 2018, 10:12 PM Post #20 |
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Getting noticed in the reserves
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I'm with you on that, Columbia lost they're composure for a spell after the penalty, however England were dropping as if they had been shot in most cases with little or no contact, not quite Neymar theatrics but bad enough. They have relied heavily on set pieces and penalties to score so can understand why they do it but you would hope the refs would start to get wise to it |
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