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Hillsborough Match Commander to Stand Trial; To Be Prosecuted For Manslaughter
Topic Started: 29 Jun 2018, 11:09 AM (2,480 Views)
pablo5
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Whatever it is, there's not enough of it
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-44656778

The BBC is reporting that David Duckenfield will be tried for manslaughter by negligence after the stay on this was lifted.

Hopefully the end is nearer for the families looking for justice here.
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dazabhoy67
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A fall guy.

Pointless.

Many more should follow, but won't.

ediy -should add, its pointless because even if they were to jail all involved in the cover up, they are all too old or already dead.
Edited by dazabhoy67, 29 Jun 2018, 11:15 AM.
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dazabhoy67
29 Jun 2018, 11:12 AM
A fall guy.

Pointless.

Many more should follow, but won't.

ediy -should add, its pointless because even if they were to jail all involved in the cover up, they are all too old or already dead.
I think the families might disagree with you.
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Four others will be tried as well apparently.
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Justice.
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Larbertbhoy
29 Jun 2018, 11:21 AM
dazabhoy67
29 Jun 2018, 11:12 AM
A fall guy.

Pointless.

Many more should follow, but won't.

ediy -should add, its pointless because even if they were to jail all involved in the cover up, they are all too old or already dead.
I think the families might disagree with you.
There's also no way Duckenfield is a "fall guy"
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dazabhoy67
29 Jun 2018, 11:12 AM
A fall guy.

Pointless.

Many more should follow, but won't.

ediy -should add, its pointless because even if they were to jail all involved in the cover up, they are all too old or already dead.
Maybe weŽll find out who ordered the cover up and smear campaign.
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29 Jun 2018, 11:31 AM
dazabhoy67
29 Jun 2018, 11:12 AM
A fall guy.

Pointless.

Many more should follow, but won't.

ediy -should add, its pointless because even if they were to jail all involved in the cover up, they are all too old or already dead.
Maybe weŽll find out who ordered the cover up and smear campaign.
Came from the heart of government at the time.
The wicked witch, Bernard Ingham.
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29 Jun 2018, 11:31 AM
dazabhoy67
29 Jun 2018, 11:12 AM
A fall guy.

Pointless.

Many more should follow, but won't.

ediy -should add, its pointless because even if they were to jail all involved in the cover up, they are all too old or already dead.
Maybe weŽll find out who ordered the cover up and smear campaign.
Unfortunately (?) she is too dead to have it besmirch her reputation.
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Long overdue.
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No matter who's dead or nearly dead get them tried and tarnish their names and their deeds called out for all to hear.
Some young ones i've heard saying let it go etc...LET EFF ALL GO!!!
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Tiny Tim
29 Jun 2018, 11:31 AM
dazabhoy67
29 Jun 2018, 11:12 AM
A fall guy.

Pointless.

Many more should follow, but won't.

ediy -should add, its pointless because even if they were to jail all involved in the cover up, they are all too old or already dead.
Maybe weŽll find out who ordered the cover up and smear campaign.
It came from the highest corridors of power at Westminster, there is no way the police acted alone in the cover up.

The government of the day owed the police for being onside, during their war with the miners in the 80s.

The cover up carried on and on, the families deserved the truth in the 90s, not 25 years later.

But this is just rinse and repeat for the UK gov, each scandal, cover up, refusal to co-operate properly, only co-operate property when forced into it, have another inquiry, admit mistakes were made, find a fall guy or 2. Move on.
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Aycliffe Bhoy
29 Jun 2018, 12:22 PM
No matter who's dead or nearly dead get them tried and tarnish their names and their deeds called out for all to hear.
Some young ones i've heard saying let it go etc...LET EFF ALL GO!!!
I wasn't meaning let it go at all when I said pointless.

I meant its a tragedy that these people have managed to live their lives out before being brought to justice.

It's exactly the type of scenario, the government probably had in mind when the cover up was first put in place. String it out as long as possible, so that most who were involved at high levels would be dead and gone.
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dazabhoy67
29 Jun 2018, 12:26 PM
Tiny Tim
29 Jun 2018, 11:31 AM
dazabhoy67
29 Jun 2018, 11:12 AM
A fall guy.

Pointless.

Many more should follow, but won't.

ediy -should add, its pointless because even if they were to jail all involved in the cover up, they are all too old or already dead.
Maybe weŽll find out who ordered the cover up and smear campaign.
It came from the highest corridors of power at Westminster, there is no way the police acted alone in the cover up.

The government of the day owed the police for being onside, during their war with the miners in the 80s.

The cover up carried on and on, the families deserved the truth in the 90s, not 25 years later.

But this is just rinse and repeat for the UK gov, each scandal, cover up, refusal to co-operate properly, only co-operate property when forced into it, have another inquiry, admit mistakes were made, find a fall guy or 2. Move on.
Yup, maybe now that someone's pension is on the line we might hear that in court.
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Justice delayed is justice denied. :nono: The British police were out of control all through the Thatcher era -- there was no accountability at all.
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Torquemada
29 Jun 2018, 12:38 PM
Justice delayed is justice denied. :nono: The British police were out of control all through the Thatcher era -- there was no accountability at all.
One of Thatcher's first acts in power, was to give the police a massive pay rise, she knew she needed them onside to tackle the masses.
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dazabhoy67
29 Jun 2018, 12:29 PM
Aycliffe Bhoy
29 Jun 2018, 12:22 PM
No matter who's dead or nearly dead get them tried and tarnish their names and their deeds called out for all to hear.
Some young ones i've heard saying let it go etc...LET EFF ALL GO!!!
I wasn't meaning let it go at all when I said pointless.

I meant its a tragedy that these people have managed to live their lives out before being brought to justice.

It's exactly the type of scenario, the government probably had in mind when the cover up was first put in place. String it out as long as possible, so that most who were involved at high levels would be dead and gone.
Not saying you said that mate.
Was just saying it's a quite common response down here,from younger lads in general.
I agree with you on the governments plan 100%
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The other prosecutions will be telling.

Sheffield Wednesday's Club Secretary is being done under the Health and Safety Act which will be informative as to how football fans in general were viewed.

A solicitor and two former Police have been charged with Perverting the Course of Justice. You'd have to imagine their defense will be squarely based around the culture of the Police at the time and why what they did wasn't a problem at the time.
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A decision will be made latter this year on whether to prosecute Sir Norman Bettison for misconduct in public office.I understand he led the 'PR campaign' for West York's police
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