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Summer '18 Transfer Window; all Celtic stuff in here
Topic Started: 21 May 2018, 11:41 AM (855,500 Views)
antbhoy
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My problem with McGinn is he will not get away with half of the way he plays if he plays for us, he would have to rein in his way of playing. Any of his aggressive tackling and he'll be suspended quite a bit.

I would also not be paying the reported 3 million for him either.
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antbhoy
10 Jun 2018, 10:58 AM
My problem with McGinn is he will not get away with half of the way he plays if he plays for us, he would have to rein in his way of playing. Any of his aggressive tackling and he'll be suspended quite a bit.
They said the same about Brown.
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gary1888
10 Jun 2018, 09:27 AM
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10 Jun 2018, 09:19 AM
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10 Jun 2018, 03:20 AM

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Pretty sure McGinn joined Hibs under freedom of contract. If someone managed to negotiate a sell-on clause under thise circumstances then, forget McGinn, it's that guy we need to sign.
St mirren are due monies as part of a development fee negotiated.
Development fees are set amounts based on calculations around the cost of training a player. They are paid when he signs his first professional contract.

Solidarity payments are percentages of the fee that are paid to teams that trained a player when he is transferred from subsequent teams. I believe it's something like 5%.

I just can't see how monies paid to St.Mirren will have any impact on a McGinn transfer fee.
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Bundy1967
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With the amount of games we play and the shorter pre season break...guys like McGinn would play enough games to merit the outlay, which won't be a lot as Allan will be part of the deal...
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WolfieBhoy
10 Jun 2018, 12:26 PM
gary1888
10 Jun 2018, 09:27 AM
WolfieBhoy
10 Jun 2018, 09:19 AM

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St mirren are due monies as part of a development fee negotiated.
Development fees are set amounts based on calculations around the cost of training a player. They are paid when he signs his first professional contract.

Solidarity payments are percentages of the fee that are paid to teams that trained a player when he is transferred from subsequent teams. I believe it's something like 5%.

I just can't see how monies paid to St.Mirren will have any impact on a McGinn transfer fee.
St Mirren have confirmed they are due 33%. Maybe it was a negotiated deal to stop Hibs having to go to a tribunal?
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Neil Jung
10 Jun 2018, 12:35 PM
WolfieBhoy
10 Jun 2018, 12:26 PM
gary1888
10 Jun 2018, 09:27 AM

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Development fees are set amounts based on calculations around the cost of training a player. They are paid when he signs his first professional contract.

Solidarity payments are percentages of the fee that are paid to teams that trained a player when he is transferred from subsequent teams. I believe it's something like 5%.

I just can't see how monies paid to St.Mirren will have any impact on a McGinn transfer fee.
St Mirren have confirmed they are due 33%. Maybe it was a negotiated deal to stop Hibs having to go to a tribunal?
Yup, I won't link to the Record, but it was reported in there in May. Doesn't make it gospel, but I think it's true. They also have him rated at £5 million :ph43r:

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10 Jun 2018, 12:49 PM
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10 Jun 2018, 12:35 PM
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10 Jun 2018, 12:26 PM

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St Mirren have confirmed they are due 33%. Maybe it was a negotiated deal to stop Hibs having to go to a tribunal?
Yup, I won't link to the Record, but it was reported in there in May. Doesn't make it gospel, but I think it's true. They also have him rated at £5 million :ph43r:

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Wow. Astonishing. As far as I understand, there’s no risk of an unexpected fee at a Tribunal as you can apply the formula and work out exactly how much has to be paid.

Someone at Hibs must have thought that McGinn was unlikley to be worth even a relatively modest fee (strange for a youngster you are signing) or they couldn’t even come up with that money.

Kudos to the St.Mirren guy who forwent the cash in the hand and gambled on a sizeable sell-on fee.
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Ffs. A Is John McGinn garbage? thread might just save this thread from the aye he is, naw he isne blackhole that it is currently in.
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TheVambo
10 Jun 2018, 02:47 PM
Ffs. A Is John McGinn garbage? thread might just save this thread from the aye he is, naw he isne blackhole that it is currently in.
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Bundy1967
10 Jun 2018, 12:33 PM
With the amount of games we play and the shorter pre season break...guys like McGinn would play enough games to merit the outlay, which won't be a lot as Allan will be part of the deal...
doubt allen will make up much worth in any kind of deal and we will probably need to subsidise his wages when he does go
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10 Jun 2018, 03:29 PM
Bundy1967
10 Jun 2018, 12:33 PM
With the amount of games we play and the shorter pre season break...guys like McGinn would play enough games to merit the outlay, which won't be a lot as Allan will be part of the deal...
doubt allen will make up much worth in any kind of deal and we will probably need to subsidise his wages when he does go
So to make this deal happen we are going to have to subsidise the wages of the player we are punting, and overpay for the player coming in? :ffs:
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horatiogreen
10 Jun 2018, 03:49 PM
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10 Jun 2018, 03:29 PM
Bundy1967
10 Jun 2018, 12:33 PM
With the amount of games we play and the shorter pre season break...guys like McGinn would play enough games to merit the outlay, which won't be a lot as Allan will be part of the deal...
doubt allen will make up much worth in any kind of deal and we will probably need to subsidise his wages when he does go
So to make this deal happen we are going to have to subsidise the wages of the player we are punting, and overpay for the player coming in? :ffs:
Only if we want to. Rod Petrie doesn't have Lawwell hooked up to a car battery or that.
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10 Jun 2018, 04:31 PM
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10 Jun 2018, 03:49 PM
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10 Jun 2018, 03:29 PM

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So to make this deal happen we are going to have to subsidise the wages of the player we are punting, and overpay for the player coming in? :ffs:
Only if we want to. Rod Petrie doesn't have Lawwell hooked up to a car battery or that.
The only reason he doesn't, is he'd expect Lawwell to provide the battery ;)
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TheVambo
10 Jun 2018, 02:47 PM
Ffs. A Is John McGinn garbage? thread might just save this thread from the aye he is, naw he isne blackhole that it is currently in.
Agreed. Getting a bit boring.
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idyllwild


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10 Jun 2018, 02:47 PM
Ffs. A Is John McGinn garbage? thread might just save this thread from the aye he is, naw he isne blackhole that it is currently in.
It’s the transfer thread. People are discussing a player with whom we have been heavily linked. If that’s not your thing, fair enough, but I’m not sure what sort of chat you’re expecting in the transfer thread.
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WolfieBhoy
10 Jun 2018, 12:26 PM
gary1888
10 Jun 2018, 09:27 AM
WolfieBhoy
10 Jun 2018, 09:19 AM

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St mirren are due monies as part of a development fee negotiated.
Development fees are set amounts based on calculations around the cost of training a player. They are paid when he signs his first professional contract.

Solidarity payments are percentages of the fee that are paid to teams that trained a player when he is transferred from subsequent teams. I believe it's something like 5%.

I just can't see how monies paid to St.Mirren will have any impact on a McGinn transfer fee.
5% is the maximum if the player has been with the club from age 12 to 23.

It's cumulative starting at 0.25% per full season from ages 12 to 15, then 0.5% per season up to 23
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idyllwild
10 Jun 2018, 06:41 PM
TheVambo
10 Jun 2018, 02:47 PM
Ffs. A Is John McGinn garbage? thread might just save this thread from the aye he is, naw he isne blackhole that it is currently in.
It’s the transfer thread. People are discussing a player with whom we have been heavily linked. If that’s not your thing, fair enough, but I’m not sure what sort of chat you’re expecting in the transfer thread.
Aye and at least it's chat about a realistic transfer deal. Not some blethering about £50k a week EPL players and other unrealistic targets.
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10 Jun 2018, 12:49 PM
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10 Jun 2018, 12:35 PM
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10 Jun 2018, 12:26 PM

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St Mirren have confirmed they are due 33%. Maybe it was a negotiated deal to stop Hibs having to go to a tribunal?
Yup, I won't link to the Record, but it was reported in there in May. Doesn't make it gospel, but I think it's true. They also have him rated at £5 million :ph43r:

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Since when have we taken anything that the record says as being true?

They are a man with a fork in a world of soup.

They get their information from KDS and similar forums.

Let's not credit them with any sort of real knowledge. They have none.
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idyllwild
10 Jun 2018, 06:41 PM
TheVambo
10 Jun 2018, 02:47 PM
Ffs. A Is John McGinn garbage? thread might just save this thread from the aye he is, naw he isne blackhole that it is currently in.
It’s the transfer thread. People are discussing a player with whom we have been heavily linked. If that’s not your thing, fair enough, but I’m not sure what sort of chat you’re expecting in the transfer thread.
Aye fair enough but it's the same 3 posts (would be a good signing, wouldn't mind/could do a job, no good enough) over the past 30 pages with occasional post with some information. End of the day hell either sign or he won't. The opinion of Timmy fae KDS won't make a blind bit of difference. The boy has a point when he says John McGinn thread would allow this one to get back on track.
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TimsdaleBhoy
10 Jun 2018, 07:58 PM
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10 Jun 2018, 06:41 PM
TheVambo
10 Jun 2018, 02:47 PM
Ffs. A Is John McGinn garbage? thread might just save this thread from the aye he is, naw he isne blackhole that it is currently in.
It’s the transfer thread. People are discussing a player with whom we have been heavily linked. If that’s not your thing, fair enough, but I’m not sure what sort of chat you’re expecting in the transfer thread.
Aye fair enough but it's the same 3 posts (would be a good signing, wouldn't mind/could do a job, no good enough) over the past 30 pages with occasional post with some information. End of the day hell either sign or he won't. The opinion of Timmy fae KDS won't make a blind bit of difference. The boy has a point when he says John McGinn thread would allow this one to get back on track.
Back on track to where?


There are no other rumours so why not debate the one rumour there is? :ponder:
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