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Summer '18 Transfer Window; all Celtic stuff in here
Topic Started: 21 May 2018, 11:41 AM (855,514 Views)
Luca
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JamesM
6 Jun 2018, 10:39 AM
san meegs
6 Jun 2018, 10:15 AM
He signed a 4 year deal in 2015, so he had another year to go. Big Pierre saw us coming.

Absolutely crap. Can't believe Deila or the club thought he was of the standard required to get us to the CL group stages.
I'm wondering though if it was a 3 year deal with a club option for a fourth year, which Celtic have (obviously) declined.

The reason I say that is that the statement specifies that he is leaving on 30 June, which is the standard date for Celtic player contracts to expire. Unlike (I think) every other Scottish team, who now use 31 May.

If he was being paid off, wouldn't he be leaving immediately?
Maybe he has left already, but his final payment is 30th June?
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6 Jun 2018, 10:39 AM
san meegs
6 Jun 2018, 10:15 AM
He signed a 4 year deal in 2015, so he had another year to go. Big Pierre saw us coming.

Absolutely crap. Can't believe Deila or the club thought he was of the standard required to get us to the CL group stages.
I'm wondering though if it was a 3 year deal with a club option for a fourth year, which Celtic have (obviously) declined.

The reason I say that is that the statement specifies that he is leaving on 30 June, which is the standard date for Celtic player contracts to expire. Unlike (I think) every other Scottish team, who now use 31 May.

If he was being paid off, wouldn't he be leaving immediately?
Good observation. You may be right.
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6 Jun 2018, 09:52 AM
McGinn doesn't improve the starting 11 nor does he improve the squad imo, the only plausible way i'd sign him is if Armstrong had to leave, just adds another player into an already congested area of the pitch.
Assuming Armstrong is leaving this summer, which was the point of the daft 1 yr extension then McGinn would be an adequate replacement. If not, it’s a bit meh.
To gain a decent transfer fee when he's punted this summer
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Is Scott Allan actually away to Hibs? I thought he had been transferred but can't see anything on t'internet.
Ciftci away & a few development guys + Erik.
Probably (almost definitely) Gamboa will be gone, but giving him time to attract offers from playing in the WC makes sense. Less likely but a possibility Boyata or even Lustig (doubt it), also looking to attract bids from performing at WC.

Can't imagine we've saved much wages, as most were on loan anyway - but every little helps.

Allan will be a makeweight for McGinn I'd imagine, if he's not already gone - which will pave the way for Armstrong to leave for a profit.
VVD money of around £5-7m?
WC players of around £1m.
£30m in the bank, about £5m of which goes to the stadium upgrades (to be offset by naming rights?).

I'd be hoping to bring in 3 players of the quality & price of Ntcham, starting with Edouard - so about £15m spend.
RB & CB the priority.

I'm actually very happy with the way we're purring along, getting Rogic, Ajer & hopefully Edouard signed up quickly.
Moving on deadwood fairly quickly too.

Let's hope for more of the same. :)
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really don't see the point of McGinn.

We need players like Ntcham, who are comfortable on the euro stage and reliable on the ball.
Edited by Kingslim, 6 Jun 2018, 11:00 AM.
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McGinn would be decent backup on a free but that's about it. He's never going to teach Brown's level.
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6 Jun 2018, 10:14 AM
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6 Jun 2018, 10:13 AM
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Out of contract or have we had to pay to get rid?
Think he had a year left, so we've probably paid him off.
He threatened to come back and fight for his jersey. :lol:
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6 Jun 2018, 10:04 AM
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6 Jun 2018, 09:52 AM
McGinn doesn't improve the starting 11 nor does he improve the squad imo, the only plausible way i'd sign him is if Armstrong had to leave, just adds another player into an already congested area of the pitch.
That's my take on him.

Surely we have to focus on quality in key areas that we continue to fail to address, rather than 'he might turn out a player' deals?

Brendan can't seriously think our defence is ready to kick on in Europe. I mean, surely?!
A mate of mine suggested its the kind of signing that we lambasted Ronny for and I can kind of see where he's coming from with that one.

As you said, there is bigger priorities within the squad such as the defence and imo the gk area, with the champions league money rumoured to be going up again then we really need to prioritise this area.
The amount of money we piss away on fees & wages on projects is ridiculous.

Ciftci just underlining it today.
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san meegs
6 Jun 2018, 10:15 AM
He signed a 4 year deal in 2015, so he had another year to go. Big Pierre saw us coming.

Absolutely crap. Can't believe Deila or the club thought he was of the standard required to get us to the CL group stages.
I'd have been happy if he was of a standard to play for us in the league. Hopeless carrot.
Edited by Rosco67, 6 Jun 2018, 11:18 AM.
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6 Jun 2018, 11:18 AM
san meegs
6 Jun 2018, 10:15 AM
He signed a 4 year deal in 2015, so he had another year to go. Big Pierre saw us coming.

Absolutely crap. Can't believe Deila or the club thought he was of the standard required to get us to the CL group stages.
I'd have been happy if he was of a standard to play for us in the league. Hopeless carrot.
Never got a chance.
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Hairytoes
6 Jun 2018, 10:56 AM
Is Scott Allan actually away to Hibs? I thought he had been transferred but can't see anything on t'internet.
Ciftci away & a few development guys + Erik.
Probably (almost definitely) Gamboa will be gone, but giving him time to attract offers from playing in the WC makes sense. Less likely but a possibility Boyata or even Lustig (doubt it), also looking to attract bids from performing at WC.

Can't imagine we've saved much wages, as most were on loan anyway - but every little helps.

Allan will be a makeweight for McGinn I'd imagine, if he's not already gone - which will pave the way for Armstrong to leave for a profit.
VVD money of around £5-7m?
WC players of around £1m.
£30m in the bank, about £5m of which goes to the stadium upgrades (to be offset by naming rights?).

I'd be hoping to bring in 3 players of the quality & price of Ntcham, starting with Edouard - so about £15m spend.
RB & CB the priority.

I'm actually very happy with the way we're purring along, getting Rogic, Ajer & hopefully Edouard signed up quickly.
Moving on deadwood fairly quickly too.

Let's hope for more of the same. :)
No, although he seems to think he is (judging by his instagram).

As you say, the likeliest scenario is that he is makeweight for McGinn.
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5 Jun 2018, 09:48 PM

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Im in late tonight but heard McGinn has already met the gaffer at some point from someone who works at the club....
No idea about McGinn but Brendan has been at his place in Majorca since immediately after the Scott Brown game so any meeting if it did occur hasn't been recent.

My relative is a club ambassador so is not close to the scouting team nor the gaffers inner circle but he does fancy McGinn I ve been told and he has already met him. Dont know where nor when all the same.

Edited by littlegmbhoy, 6 Jun 2018, 11:43 AM.
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Like many , not really seeing it with Mcginn. Gaffers already on record as saying some of our more proven starters like Armstrong and Mcgregor weren`t quite good enough for CL level so not sure why Mcginn is an improvement. He would help us continue to dominate Scottish football if either Armstrong or Mcgregor go, probably.

He`s unlikely to help us kick on in European terms but am not sure we can afford the type of players who are. We still needed to speculate on Edouard , Ntcham and Dembele to a degree to get a player nearer Euro levels of good and they will all be young and slightly erratic like them due to their age/experience when they come.
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6 Jun 2018, 11:52 AM
Like many , not really seeing it with Mcginn. Gaffers already on record as saying some of our more proven starters like Armstrong and Mcgregor weren`t quite good enough for CL level so not sure why Mcginn is an improvement. He would help us continue to dominate Scottish football if either Armstrong or Mcgregor go, probably.

He`s unlikely to help us kick on in European terms but am not sure we can afford the type of players who are. We still needed to speculate on Edouard , Ntcham and Dembele to a degree to get a player nearer Euro levels of good and they will all be young and slightly erratic like them due to their age/experience when they come.
He said McGregor isn't good enough for the CL? When was this?

I thought he was one of our better performers in the competition this year.
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6 Jun 2018, 12:18 PM
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6 Jun 2018, 11:52 AM
Like many , not really seeing it with Mcginn. Gaffers already on record as saying some of our more proven starters like Armstrong and Mcgregor weren`t quite good enough for CL level so not sure why Mcginn is an improvement. He would help us continue to dominate Scottish football if either Armstrong or Mcgregor go, probably.

He`s unlikely to help us kick on in European terms but am not sure we can afford the type of players who are. We still needed to speculate on Edouard , Ntcham and Dembele to a degree to get a player nearer Euro levels of good and they will all be young and slightly erratic like them due to their age/experience when they come.
He said McGregor isn't good enough for the CL? When was this?

I thought he was one of our better performers in the competition this year.
Aye I have no memory of him saying this about either McGregor or Armstrong, or anyone for that matter. And if he did say it about McGregor he's dead wrong. Was arguably our best performer in Europe this season.
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6 Jun 2018, 11:00 AM
really don't see the point of McGinn.

We need players like Ntcham, who are comfortable on the euro stage and reliable on the ball.
As unpalatable as it may be, the current reality is we get players like Ntcham over a short cycle, if they perform to expectations. The chances of them signing a second contract are smaller. The chance of him being at Celtic for the 2019/20 season, or especially the 2020/21 season are probably quite slim if he kicks on next season.

Every successful squad needs a thread of continuity running through it. Brown, Lustig, Forrest, Griffiths, Rogic, McGregor. Even Gordon is now about to start a fifth season. For a relatively modest outlay, we would get the chance to see if McGinn is good enough to join that list. The flip side is perhaps seeing him go down south and then be worth £8-10m in a couple of years and outside our price bracket.

We also appear to have a player in reserve in Allan that would assist in offsetting the cost. We appear to be talking about roughly a third of the fee we paid for Scott Brown 11 years ago.

It only makes sense to me if Armstrong leaves though because we have a glut of players in there and Bitton has also already said he is going nowhere. I'd far rather have a fit and happy Armstrong on a contract extension than McGinn, but I can't see that happening.
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We need defenders desperately if we are to improve in Europe.

With question marks over Simunovic, Boyata, Lustig, Gamboa, Hendry and Compper we really need a settled solid back 4 next season.

Rodgers needs to address this problem area if we are to keep improving.
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6 Jun 2018, 10:12 AM
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Farewell Sweet Nadir

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CELTIC Football Club can confirm that Nadir Ciftci will be leaving the club on June 30, 2018. Currently on loan to Motherwell, everyone at Celtic wishes Nadir all the very best for the future.
A true inspiration.

A lesson that you can be a crap footballer with a bad attitude and still get the chance to play for Celtic, be paid to do it and walk away with a pocket full of cash.
Did he really have a bad attitude?

I don't recall any stories about him being disruptive or lazy....he was just utter guff.

As long as a player actually puts in a bit of effort when he gets on the pitch and works to try and get in the team the rest of the time then I've got no problem with him seeing out his contract or hanging on until he gets a decent offer from elsewhere....if he's simply not good enough to get a game then that's the fault of the scouts and coaches who brought him to the club rather than the player himself.
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We need defenders desperately if we are to improve in Europe.

With question marks over Simunovic, Boyata, Lustig, Gamboa, Hendry and Compper we really need a settled solid back 4 next season.

Rodgers needs to address this problem area if we are to keep improving.
Surely to eff Brendan has been planning for the summer with this in mind?

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Farewell Sweet Nadir


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A true inspiration.

A lesson that you can be a crap footballer with a bad attitude and still get the chance to play for Celtic, be paid to do it and walk away with a pocket full of cash.
Did he really have a bad attitude?

I don't recall any stories about him being disruptive or lazy....he was just utter guff.

As long as a player actually puts in a bit of effort when he gets on the pitch and works to try and get in the team the rest of the time then I've got no problem with him seeing out his contract or hanging on until he gets a decent offer from elsewhere....if he's simply not good enough to get a game then that's the fault of the scouts and coaches who brought him to the club rather than the player himself.
Hospitalised Izaguirre.

Still wasn't fit at Motherwell last month.

Total waster.
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