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Summer '18 Transfer Window; all Celtic stuff in here
Topic Started: 21 May 2018, 11:41 AM (855,273 Views)
PaulWilson
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5 Jul 2018, 02:43 PM
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5 Jul 2018, 02:41 PM
Did anybody ever find out what the Musonda story was? Its being made out that we were in the wrong by not just playing him, and I canny see that being the case.
Rogic situation changed and he was no longer needed / not quite as good as we thought he would be.
Masunda was overhyped. He simply wasn't good enough for us at this stage in his development.

He is 21. Michael Johnston is 19 and is a more effective player at moment.

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Liverpool put in clauses into players loan deals that almost force you to play them even if they turn out crap. Wigan had it with bogdan but lucky for the club he got injured and was sent back maybe not so for the player though.
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PaulWilson
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5 Jul 2018, 02:43 PM
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5 Jul 2018, 02:41 PM
Did anybody ever find out what the Musonda story was? Its being made out that we were in the wrong by not just playing him, and I canny see that being the case.
Rogic situation changed and he was no longer needed / not quite as good as we thought he would be.
Masunda was overhyped. He simply wasn't good enough for us at this stage in his development.

He is 21. Michael Johnston is 19 and is a more effective player at moment.

It’s easy to be seduced by EPL propaganda. We signed Musonda in loan and then when training next to our young players realised he was no better than what we have. Gilmore has gone down there and shone due when he was part of a young rangers team we often got the better of at that level with players like Euan Henderson and Kerr McInroy who are now training with our first team.

Same could be said for some of our signings. Rodgers bought De Vries and the. Realised he had a better keeper already at the club. Gamboa, lustig was better, even Roberts couldn’t displace Forrest last season.
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5 Jul 2018, 02:43 PM

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Masunda was overhyped. He simply wasn't good enough for us at this stage in his development.

He is 21. Michael Johnston is 19 and is a more effective player at moment.

It’s easy to be seduced by EPL propaganda. We signed Musonda in loan and then when training next to our young players realised he was no better than what we have. Gilmore has gone down there and shone due when he was part of a young rangers team we often got the better of at that level with players like Euan Henderson and Kerr McInroy who are now training with our first team.

Same could be said for some of our signings. Rodgers bought De Vries and the. Realised he had a better keeper already at the club. Gamboa, lustig was better, even Roberts couldn’t displace Forrest last season.
Boy I know that knows McGregor said to me that Callum said Musonda willny make it up here, too lightweight, getting flung about off everyone as soon as hes got the ball

Dismissed it because the boys a hun and I was convinced we had won a watch.

Turns out to be true. Probably along with a few other factors.
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5 Jul 2018, 02:41 PM
Did anybody ever find out what the Musonda story was? Its being made out that we were in the wrong by not just playing him, and I canny see that being the case.
Yip. The boy’s a wee bellend.
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from an external perspective how is the guidetti loan not a successful one? certainly would be more inclined to include him with the "successes" ie edouard, denayer, Roberts, forster as opposed to the obvious failures such as musonda, blackett, wakaso, tonev etc
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That "lpool won't loan Wilson to Celtic " story is complete and utter pish , I'm surprised so many on here are reacting to it
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5 Jul 2018, 04:07 PM
popeyed
5 Jul 2018, 02:41 PM
Did anybody ever find out what the Musonda story was? Its being made out that we were in the wrong by not just playing him, and I canny see that being the case.
Yip. The boy’s a wee bellend.
Thought as much. :lol:
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5 Jul 2018, 03:30 PM
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5 Jul 2018, 02:43 PM
popeyed
5 Jul 2018, 02:41 PM
Did anybody ever find out what the Musonda story was? Its being made out that we were in the wrong by not just playing him, and I canny see that being the case.
Rogic situation changed and he was no longer needed / not quite as good as we thought he would be.
Masunda was overhyped. He simply wasn't good enough for us at this stage in his development.

He is 21. Michael Johnston is 19 and is a more effective player at moment.

There is absolutely no proof that Mikey Johnston is a more effective player than a guy who's actually had an impact in a first team game before.
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5 Jul 2018, 04:10 PM
from an external perspective how is the guidetti loan not a successful one? certainly would be more inclined to include him with the "successes" ie edouard, denayer, Roberts, forster as opposed to the obvious failures such as musonda, blackett, wakaso, tonev etc
I think he's somewhere in the middle. Certainly closer to the former category than the latter but he really tailed off after the Inter game.
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5 Jul 2018, 04:19 PM
amccarten313
5 Jul 2018, 04:10 PM
from an external perspective how is the guidetti loan not a successful one? certainly would be more inclined to include him with the "successes" ie edouard, denayer, Roberts, forster as opposed to the obvious failures such as musonda, blackett, wakaso, tonev etc
I think he's somewhere in the middle. Certainly closer to the former category than the latter but he really tailed off after the Inter game.
From memory, he was on fire up until Christmas, then his form and work rate took a nose dive.

Think he scored 10 before November/December and about 3 or 4 in the 2nd half of the season.

Was he not a bit full of himself as well? Probably why people don't think of his spell as a success.

I still sometimes watch the highlights of that Inter game, it was fantastic. A real Euro night at CP. Henderson coming on and his wee dink for JG's goal in the last minute was delightful.
Edited by dazabhoy67, 5 Jul 2018, 04:29 PM.
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5 Jul 2018, 03:15 PM
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5 Jul 2018, 02:54 PM
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you're still here though, so that's a positive. :)
In amongst all the wailing about Tierney and discussion on McGinn that post deserves credit. :worthy: :theclap:


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5 Jul 2018, 02:21 PM
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5 Jul 2018, 02:05 PM
Wouldn’t count out Roberts just yet. The closer it gets to the transfer window closing and the longer Roberts still being at Man City could be good for us. He won’t want a season at City playing reserve football and Celtic won’t want the transfer window shutting without signing a winger. Champions League Qualification is another £30-£40million. If that if secured I think Celtic will make a move for him.
Paddy Roberts doesn't want to come back - Hes said so already - Enjoyed his time here but looking for a fresh and harder challenge
Yeah I understand he wants that but I don’t see a EPL coming in for him as of yet. He never kicked a ball second half of the season. I think the lure of Champions League Football and then potential of being at limbo at Man City might force him to reconsider if Celtic come calling.
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Wouldn’t count out Roberts just yet. The closer it gets to the transfer window closing and the longer Roberts still being at Man City could be good for us. He won’t want a season at City playing reserve football and Celtic won’t want the transfer window shutting without signing a winger. Champions League Qualification is another £30-£40million. If that if secured I think Celtic will make a move for him.
English transfer window closes on August 9th I think?

May well be a few players, Roberts included, who we could get on loan/loan to buy etc.
The longer the window goes with him being still at City the better chances we have imo. His worst case scenario is being at City. Celtic and champions league football would be a big draw for any player in a similar position to him. Also he’ll know himself, if I came back permanently, performed to a level we have seen, he’ll get his big move.
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Masunda was overhyped. He simply wasn't good enough for us at this stage in his development.

He is 21. Michael Johnston is 19 and is a more effective player at moment.

There is absolutely no proof that Mikey Johnston is a more effective player than a guy who's actually had an impact in a first team game before.
Michael Johnston has played in five top-team games and has shown himself to be a more effective team player in them than Musonda did in his eight games.


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5 Jul 2018, 02:35 PM
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Wouldn’t count out Roberts just yet. The closer it gets to the transfer window closing and the longer Roberts still being at Man City could be good for us. He won’t want a season at City playing reserve football and Celtic won’t want the transfer window shutting without signing a winger. Champions League Qualification is another £30-£40million. If that if secured I think Celtic will make a move for him.
Paddy Roberts doesn't want to come back - Hes said so already - Enjoyed his time here but looking for a fresh and harder challenge
Won't get that at city reserves. If he doesn't get a move to another EPL club he could come back to us to put himself back in the shop window, you never know :pray:
Don’t see EPL team coming calling. Exactly as we have seen with Wanyama, Armstrong, VVD, Forster. Celtic is a unique platform for young players :thumbsup: Paddy knows this, i feel he’ll be holding out for maybe something else. But it doesn’t materialise it will put us in a good position if he wants the move and Celtic do.
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you're still here though, so that's a positive. :)
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Wouldn’t count out Roberts just yet. The closer it gets to the transfer window closing and the longer Roberts still being at Man City could be good for us. He won’t want a season at City playing reserve football and Celtic won’t want the transfer window shutting without signing a winger. Champions League Qualification is another £30-£40million. If that if secured I think Celtic will make a move for him.
Paddy Roberts doesn't want to come back - Hes said so already - Enjoyed his time here but looking for a fresh and harder challenge
I don't think it's accurate to say that he doesn't want to come back to Celtic. Most likely, his preferred option will be a move to another team in the EPL where he has a good chance of regular football.
However if the offers are not to his liking then returning to Celtic might be his best option on the table.
He was out injured most of last season so there won't be any up-to-date scouting information available. I wouldn't be surprised if he's fallen off the radar over the last 12 months and clubs will be more interested in players who were performing well last season. I'm sure that he'll get offers, but they'll likely fall short of what he was hoping for and if that happens a return to Celtic might prove the way to go for him.
So yeah I'd agree that he would prefer a good deal in he premiership, trouble is I don't think he's likely to get the offer he's hoping for in the prem.
Totally agree. Think he’s holding out for a move to EPL but he’s not kicked a ball due to injury and James Forrest. If Celtic make champions league its real incentive for him to oust Forrest and perform on the biggest stage. If he came back and does that then he’ll get a move to a top 10 Premiership team. I feel if we qualify for champions league we will make a move. Hate saying but he’ll be a saleable assest in a few years down the line. We all have seen what he can do.
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you're still here though, so that's a positive. :)
When’s this big Man City deal happening mate? :clap:
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you're still here though, so that's a positive. :)
When’s this big Man City deal happening mate? :clap:
I'm sure you'll claim the credit for it when it does. :lol:
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