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Summer '18 Transfer Window; all Celtic stuff in here
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Celts88
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4 Jul 2018, 10:31 AM
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Our squad management is a shambles. We currently have 13 midfielders listed as first team players on the website, plus Johnstone, so 14.
Our only current rumours are for two midfielders. So 16 midfielders will be on the books. What happens then when we can't shift any of the existing 14? Sell them? We'll sell Allan to Hibs no problems. Great, 15 midfielders left. Then we have Christie, Hayes, Eboue, Benyu? Could anyone in Scotland afford them, and would anyone down south want them? More loan deals until their contracts eventually expire?
We have 1 left back who we're probably going to sell against everyones wishes, while we have 3 right backs, 2 aren't good enough and the other 1 has a year left at this level, if that. Our only new centre back in 2 years is shampooe and probably for sale. One of our others is still at the WC and has a year left on his deal, another can't play on 3 of the 11 away pitches in the league. It's a shambles.
You should consider going back to bed. Clearly the world is a very scary place for you at the moment. Selling a (sorry, the) left back against everyone's wishes? If he goes, then it will not be against his wishes. Change happens - we'll cope. Has anyone ever mentioned the 90s to you?
I really do wonder about your motivation. The guy has compiled an accurate account of the squad. No he didn't, it was just a well complied whinge
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4 Jul 2018, 10:36 AM
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I am not impressed with where we are in regard to signing players in this transfer window. The players that have left, we knew were going to leave. We knew what players were going to the world cup. We haven't sold anyone ' out of the blue" . Our squad is exactly what we thought it would be at this stage of the close season. So unless BR believes that players like Christie,Hayes,Allen,Compper etc are good enough then we are not running this business of a football club very well.
Edit.. when I say business I mean the playing staff side, not the money side..
Window has been open for 4 days.
There is a world cup going on, that surely hinders, clubs transfers, distractions, contact with agents, players holding out for the real madness to take place, later on etc.
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egan46
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4 Jul 2018, 10:37 AM
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I really do wonder about your motivation. The guy has compiled an accurate account of the squad.
No he didn't, it was just a well complied whinge we're all allowed a whinge every now and then
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DKB
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4 Jul 2018, 10:42 AM
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The marquee signing that the board are working on if they allow Tierney to leave, must be something out of this world It certainly won't be a potential signing of McGinn that will make up the loss
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4 Jul 2018, 10:43 AM
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....give us a glimmer......
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- 4 Jul 2018, 08:42 AM
Is McGinn a bigger Celtic fan than KT? He's 100% one of us.
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4 Jul 2018, 10:43 AM
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Why? You confident in the squad we have? We have gone backwards on last season. Our squad is bloated in certain areas whilst being short in others. I was too young to remember the 90's as a Celtic fan. I'm sure it was an awful time. We're all reminded about it whenever somebody criticises Celtic in today's day and age. Almost as if you aren't allowed to opine unless you compare it to the 90's. Thanks for the patronising response though. Struggling actually to see what point you're making.
The reference to the 90s was sarcastic. My apologies if you thought my reply condescending. I have every confidence that Brendan Rodgers and his team do understand the squad imbalance and will be engaged in taking steps to rectify it. Yes I'm confident in the squad we have to navigate through to the group stages of the CL. Can the squad be improved? Yes again. However I think that people are looking at us signing ready-made additions who can help deliver wins against the Barcas, the PSGs and the Real Madrids that we might come up against. I can't see that happening. A long while ago on here I read a comment about people needing to manage their expectations in our signings. I think it's as true today as it was then. Firstly, you need a look at the definition of sarcasm. It was a straight comparison devoid of logic. Secondly no one in this forum is expecting star players to oust the cream of Europe. So the basis for your support of complacency over immediate action to bolster CL qualification is nonexistent. The team scraped through 3 ties last year with a stronger squad. 4 ties with a weaker squad and Congerton/Rodgers history of talent id suggests a pending failure this year, yet you insult fans who don't share your ignorance of the urgency of the situation.
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4 Jul 2018, 10:50 AM
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I am not impressed with where we are in regard to signing players in this transfer window. The players that have left, we knew were going to leave. We knew what players were going to the world cup. We haven't sold anyone ' out of the blue" . Our squad is exactly what we thought it would be at this stage of the close season. So unless BR believes that players like Christie,Hayes,Allen,Compper etc are good enough then we are not running this business of a football club very well.
Edit.. when I say business I mean the playing staff side, not the money side..
Window has been open for 4 days. There is a world cup going on, that surely hinders, clubs transfers, distractions, contact with agents, players holding out for the real madness to take place, later on etc. The transfer window has been open for weeks. On top of which, it’s really only a registration window. Transfers can be done any time.
Every year we discuss why our unique position means that we need to get stuff done early, preferably January. And every year we end up scrambling about.
And I’ll say it again, transfers can be done any time. The window is an excuse, the World Cup is an excuse. We know the football schedule well enough that we’ve should be able to prepare for it.
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4 Jul 2018, 10:55 AM
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I really do wonder about your motivation. The guy has compiled an accurate account of the squad.
No he didn't, it was just a well compliedwhinge Well compiled = accurate. There's a cabal of complacency on here who encourage taking the blue pill. One can only speculate on your motivation for insulting/supporting the offensive remarks against those who opt for the red and vent their agitation on a fan's forum.
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4 Jul 2018, 10:55 AM
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Was he not in our youth set up a few years ago?
Was that not Teddy? Aye maybe, just remember the surname.
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Kingslim
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4 Jul 2018, 10:55 AM
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I am not impressed with where we are in regard to signing players in this transfer window. The players that have left, we knew were going to leave. We knew what players were going to the world cup. We haven't sold anyone ' out of the blue" . Our squad is exactly what we thought it would be at this stage of the close season. So unless BR believes that players like Christie,Hayes,Allen,Compper etc are good enough then we are not running this business of a football club very well.
Edit.. when I say business I mean the playing staff side, not the money side..
Window has been open for 4 days. There is a world cup going on, that surely hinders, clubs transfers, distractions, contact with agents, players holding out for the real madness to take place, later on etc.
The transfer window has been open for weeks. On top of which, it’s really only a registration window. Transfers can be done any time. Every year we discuss why our unique position means that we need to get stuff done early, preferably January. And every year we end up scrambling about. And I’ll say it again, transfers can be done any time. The window is an excuse, the World Cup is an excuse. We know the football schedule well enough that we’ve should be able to prepare for it. I don’t think there’s any appetite to get us to the next level.
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searcher52
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4 Jul 2018, 10:56 AM
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The reference to the 90s was sarcastic. My apologies if you thought my reply condescending. I have every confidence that Brendan Rodgers and his team do understand the squad imbalance and will be engaged in taking steps to rectify it. Yes I'm confident in the squad we have to navigate through to the group stages of the CL. Can the squad be improved? Yes again. However I think that people are looking at us signing ready-made additions who can help deliver wins against the Barcas, the PSGs and the Real Madrids that we might come up against. I can't see that happening. A long while ago on here I read a comment about people needing to manage their expectations in our signings. I think it's as true today as it was then.
Firstly, you need a look at the definition of sarcasm. It was a straight comparison devoid of logic. Secondly no one in this forum is expecting star players to oust the cream of Europe. So the basis for your support of complacency over immediate action to bolster CL qualification is nonexistent. The team scraped through 3 ties last year with a stronger squad. 4 ties with a weaker squad and Congerton/Rodgers history of talent id suggests a pending failure this year, yet you insult fans who don't share your ignorance of the urgency of the situation. "Sarcasm is speech or writing which actually means the opposite of what it seems to say" and in that sense I was being sarcastic. However, thank you for the chance to go away and deepen my knowledge.
You suggest there is complacency (definition - feeling so satisfied with your own abilities or situation that you feel you do not need to try any harder) and I disagree. There is a need to iron out the imbalance in the pool and I firmly believe efforts are being made to deal with this. I don't think we are worse placed going into the qualifiers than we were last year but I accept that views on this are subjective.
I don't share the doom and gloom which seems to drive the posts of quite a few on here. As I said when the draw was initially made - there will be teams who will feel they have dodged a bullet in not being pitted against Celtic. I believe our two potential opponents will wish the draw had been kinder to them.
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4 Jul 2018, 11:01 AM
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It seems like we’ve all forgotten that we just spent 9 million pounds on a striker.
If we bought him without the initial loan everyone would be ecstatic.
Not to say we don’t need that level of investment in other areas but it would seem to me we’re forgetting how early in the window it is.
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4 Jul 2018, 11:06 AM
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It seems like we’ve all forgotten that we just spent 9 million pounds on a striker.
If we bought him without the initial loan everyone would be ecstatic.
Not to say we don’t need that level of investment in other areas but it would seem to me we’re forgetting how early in the window it is. The window closing on August 31 is irrelevant as we've got games before then that we can't catch up later in the year. Look at our potential QR 3 opponents, let alone Rosenborg if they get their shampoo together. We generally don't put players straight in, either, for whatever reason.
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4 Jul 2018, 11:08 AM
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I am not impressed with where we are in regard to signing players in this transfer window. The players that have left, we knew were going to leave. We knew what players were going to the world cup. We haven't sold anyone ' out of the blue" . Our squad is exactly what we thought it would be at this stage of the close season. So unless BR believes that players like Christie,Hayes,Allen,Compper etc are good enough then we are not running this business of a football club very well.
Edit.. when I say business I mean the playing staff side, not the money side..
Window has been open for 4 days. There is a world cup going on, that surely hinders, clubs transfers, distractions, contact with agents, players holding out for the real madness to take place, later on etc.
The transfer window has been open for weeks. On top of which, it’s really only a registration window. Transfers can be done any time. Every year we discuss why our unique position means that we need to get stuff done early, preferably January. And every year we end up scrambling about. And I’ll say it again, transfers can be done any time. The window is an excuse, the World Cup is an excuse. We know the football schedule well enough that we’ve should be able to prepare for it. January is the key month, but didn't happen though.
Players would be mental to sign for another team, between Feb and May. Which is why it very rarely happens. Their agents tell them to hold of making a decision, whilst they still have a few months of the season + a (possible)world cup to impress other suitors.
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4 Jul 2018, 11:09 AM
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It seems like we’ve all forgotten that we just spent 9 million pounds on a striker.
If we bought him without the initial loan everyone would be ecstatic.
Not to say we don’t need that level of investment in other areas but it would seem to me we’re forgetting how early in the window it is. Can he play defence in the CL qualifiers?
No-one is complaining that we aren’t spending money or that we haven’t got decent players scattered around the squad. People are complaining that we’ve criminally under-invested in our defence for years, that our best defender is likely to leave and there hasn’t been a back-up LB for over a year.
The fact that we’ve shown how to build a great squad of forward players only emphasises how crap we’ve been with the defence.
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4 Jul 2018, 11:11 AM
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The transfer window has been open for weeks. On top of which, it’s really only a registration window. Transfers can be done any time. Every year we discuss why our unique position means that we need to get stuff done early, preferably January. And every year we end up scrambling about. And I’ll say it again, transfers can be done any time. The window is an excuse, the World Cup is an excuse. We know the football schedule well enough that we’ve should be able to prepare for it.
I don’t think there’s any appetite to get us to the next level. But from whom.
BR was giving a ridiculous budget(by our standards) in the past 2 windows and chosen not to spend it.
I'm certain this summers budget will be similar, giving the amount we have to play with.
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4 Jul 2018, 11:11 AM
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- 4 Jul 2018, 11:01 AM
It seems like we’ve all forgotten that we just spent 9 million pounds on a striker.
aka the "Tierney money"
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4 Jul 2018, 11:14 AM
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It seems like we’ve all forgotten that we just spent 9 million pounds on a striker.
If we bought him without the initial loan everyone would be ecstatic.
Not to say we don’t need that level of investment in other areas but it would seem to me we’re forgetting how early in the window it is. Front 6 we’re fine.
We should be looking to spend 4 or 5m on an accomplished CB, instead we get additions like Jack Hendry. Now, we’re trying to sign the likes of John McGinn.
We’ve got one LB at the club- one.
The fans are being taken for mugs once again. It’s an absoulute shambles.
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4 Jul 2018, 11:15 AM
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I don’t think there’s any appetite to get us to the next level.
But from whom. BR was giving a ridiculous budget(by our standards) in the past 2 windows and chosen not to spend it. I'm certain this summers budget will be similar, giving the amount we have to play with. He chose not to spend it? Please show your workings.
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4 Jul 2018, 11:16 AM
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The transfer window has been open for weeks. On top of which, it’s really only a registration window. Transfers can be done any time. Every year we discuss why our unique position means that we need to get stuff done early, preferably January. And every year we end up scrambling about. And I’ll say it again, transfers can be done any time. The window is an excuse, the World Cup is an excuse. We know the football schedule well enough that we’ve should be able to prepare for it.
January is the key month, but didn't happen though. Players would be mental to sign for another team, between Feb and May. Which is why it very rarely happens. Their agents tell them to hold of making a decision, whilst they still have a few months of the season + a (possible)world cup to impress other suitors. Excuses. Loads of clubs line up signings throughout the year, and have the formal signing in January or summer. We do it ourselves, and have built a very good midfield and excellent attack. Our defence is always an afterthought.
If you’re right and it was impossible to sign anyone from January onwards, then we should have signed a few defenders last summer.
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