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Summer '18 Transfer Window; all Celtic stuff in here
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Topic Started: 21 May 2018, 11:41 AM (855,287 Views)
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4 Jul 2018, 09:51 AM
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- 4 Jul 2018, 09:29 AM
Mcginn's being done because we can do it . It can't be a priority for the team as he is very unlikely to help us in qualifiers
Gives me the fear when i see us spending money we don't need to spend on areas we don't need covered
Just like Hayes you can hear them spouting mcginn's name as how we have strengthened when the real area of concern isn't addressed properly
We do need midfield cover though. We've lost Armstrong. McGinn will basically take his place as a guy who will start a decent number of games but won't necessarily be a first pick.
It's not as big a priority as the defence, clearly, but we do need at least one other central midfield body to add to Brown, Ntcham, McGregor, Bitton and Kouassi, especially with Bitton not fit and Kouassi possibly for the off.
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4 Jul 2018, 09:53 AM
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I like McGinn, and think he would be a decent acquisition, but if we get him we need to punt Bitton and/or Kouassi.
I'd really like the bold Eboue to be given a decent run though, cos he's impressed pretty much every chance he's had.
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4 Jul 2018, 09:54 AM
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- 4 Jul 2018, 01:53 AM
McGinn is not going to improve us. Would be a disappointing signing.
Even with better players around him not to mention the coaching, fitness and dietary standards our back room staff offer??
that might improve him, it wouldn't improve us as a team. McGinn is an unnecessary signing, and will spend more time on the bench than in the starting eleven. The same could be said of McGregor (yes I know he was with us) he was deemed by many in here as not good enough, Broony was another and look how that turned out, thankfully those that did don’t pick our team. It’s looking increasingly likely we will sign him and I trust the managers judgement on this one.
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4 Jul 2018, 09:57 AM
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- 3 Jul 2018, 11:09 PM
John McGinn is effing pish. We are about too have 25mil and have 7million from Armstrong and we are buying a player worse than any of our midfielders, in what should be his prime. His prime is would be our 5th best centre mid. Whilst we still have a shocking defence.
I like the look of that Icelandic fella that players for Aston Villa, Birkir Bjarnason. Was he not in our youth set up a few years ago?
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4 Jul 2018, 09:58 AM
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- 3 Jul 2018, 11:39 PM
Roberts, Armstrong and Tierney out. Rodgers/Congerton with a massive transfer budget to rebuild us.
What could go wrong? Their hit rate on first team signings is abysmal.
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4 Jul 2018, 09:59 AM
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John McGinn is effing pish. We are about too have 25mil and have 7million from Armstrong and we are buying a player worse than any of our midfielders, in what should be his prime. His prime is would be our 5th best centre mid. Whilst we still have a shocking defence.
I like the look of that Icelandic fella that players for Aston Villa, Birkir Bjarnason.
Was he not in our youth set up a few years ago? Was that not Teddy?
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4 Jul 2018, 09:59 AM
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Our squad management is a shambles. We currently have 13 midfielders listed as first team players on the website, plus Johnstone, so 14.
Our only current rumours are for two midfielders. So 16 midfielders will be on the books. What happens then when we can't shift any of the existing 14? Sell them? We'll sell Allan to Hibs no problems. Great, 15 midfielders left. Then we have Christie, Hayes, Eboue, Benyu? Could anyone in Scotland afford them, and would anyone down south want them? More loan deals until their contracts eventually expire?
We have 1 left back who we're probably going to sell against everyones wishes, while we have 3 right backs, 2 aren't good enough and the other 1 has a year left at this level, if that. Our only new centre back in 2 years is shampooe and probably for sale. One of our others is still at the WC and has a year left on his deal, another can't play on 3 of the 11 away pitches in the league. It's a shambles.
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atalan
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4 Jul 2018, 10:01 AM
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- 3 Jul 2018, 11:39 PM
Roberts, Armstrong and Tierney out. Rodgers/Congerton with a massive transfer budget to rebuild us.
What could go wrong?
Their hit rate on first team signings is abysmal. It's Congertons time at Sunderland that gives me the fear
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4 Jul 2018, 10:04 AM
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- 4 Jul 2018, 09:15 AM
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- 4 Jul 2018, 09:05 AM
Some folk on here appear to be looking for us to bring in players to bolster our chances of getting through the qualifiers. I'd have thought history would have taught us that isn't going to happen.
In any event, do we really need to improve the squad to see us through the first couple of rounds, say?
If we get Rosenberg then yes Rosenberg will not be fancying their chances against us.
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4 Jul 2018, 10:04 AM
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It's absolutely clear where we need to improve the side & it doesn't appear as though steps are being taken (unless it's going on behind the scenes).
Someone mentioned earlier, does it even matter if we make the CL now? We clearly won't spending the money on trying to improve our team.
We simply refuse to build from a position of strength.
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4 Jul 2018, 10:08 AM
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Some folk on here appear to be looking for us to bring in players to bolster our chances of getting through the qualifiers. I'd have thought history would have taught us that isn't going to happen.
In any event, do we really need to improve the squad to see us through the first couple of rounds, say?
It isnt a risk worth taking, we shouldnt gamble Who says we are actually gambling? That's as if there are players just waiting to sign but we are holding off doing deals. Fanciful to say the least.
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4 Jul 2018, 10:14 AM
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- 4 Jul 2018, 09:59 AM
Our squad management is a shambles. We currently have 13 midfielders listed as first team players on the website, plus Johnstone, so 14.
Our only current rumours are for two midfielders. So 16 midfielders will be on the books. What happens then when we can't shift any of the existing 14? Sell them? We'll sell Allan to Hibs no problems. Great, 15 midfielders left. Then we have Christie, Hayes, Eboue, Benyu? Could anyone in Scotland afford them, and would anyone down south want them? More loan deals until their contracts eventually expire?
We have 1 left back who we're probably going to sell against everyones wishes, while we have 3 right backs, 2 aren't good enough and the other 1 has a year left at this level, if that. Our only new centre back in 2 years is shampooe and probably for sale. One of our others is still at the WC and has a year left on his deal, another can't play on 3 of the 11 away pitches in the league. It's a shambles. You should consider going back to bed. Clearly the world is a very scary place for you at the moment. Selling a (sorry, the) left back against everyone's wishes? If he goes, then it will not be against his wishes. Change happens - we'll cope. Has anyone ever mentioned the 90s to you?
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4 Jul 2018, 10:16 AM
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Our squad management is a shambles. We currently have 13 midfielders listed as first team players on the website, plus Johnstone, so 14.
Our only current rumours are for two midfielders. So 16 midfielders will be on the books. What happens then when we can't shift any of the existing 14? Sell them? We'll sell Allan to Hibs no problems. Great, 15 midfielders left. Then we have Christie, Hayes, Eboue, Benyu? Could anyone in Scotland afford them, and would anyone down south want them? More loan deals until their contracts eventually expire?
We have 1 left back who we're probably going to sell against everyones wishes, while we have 3 right backs, 2 aren't good enough and the other 1 has a year left at this level, if that. Our only new centre back in 2 years is shampooe and probably for sale. One of our others is still at the WC and has a year left on his deal, another can't play on 3 of the 11 away pitches in the league. It's a shambles.
You should consider going back to bed. Clearly the world is a very scary place for you at the moment. Selling a (sorry, the) left back against everyone's wishes? If he goes, then it will not be against his wishes. Change happens - we'll cope. Has anyone ever mentioned the 90s to you? Why? You confident in the squad we have? We have gone backwards on last season. Our squad is bloated in certain areas whilst being short in others.
I was too young to remember the 90's as a Celtic fan. I'm sure it was an awful time. We're all reminded about it whenever somebody criticises Celtic in today's day and age. Almost as if you aren't allowed to opine unless you compare it to the 90's. Thanks for the patronising response though.
Struggling actually to see what point you're making.
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4 Jul 2018, 10:22 AM
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Our squad management is a shambles. We currently have 13 midfielders listed as first team players on the website, plus Johnstone, so 14.
Our only current rumours are for two midfielders. So 16 midfielders will be on the books. What happens then when we can't shift any of the existing 14? Sell them? We'll sell Allan to Hibs no problems. Great, 15 midfielders left. Then we have Christie, Hayes, Eboue, Benyu? Could anyone in Scotland afford them, and would anyone down south want them? More loan deals until their contracts eventually expire?
We have 1 left back who we're probably going to sell against everyones wishes, while we have 3 right backs, 2 aren't good enough and the other 1 has a year left at this level, if that. Our only new centre back in 2 years is shampooe and probably for sale. One of our others is still at the WC and has a year left on his deal, another can't play on 3 of the 11 away pitches in the league. It's a shambles.
You should consider going back to bed. Clearly the world is a very scary place for you at the moment. Selling a (sorry, the) left back against everyone's wishes? If he goes, then it will not be against his wishes. Change happens - we'll cope. Has anyone ever mentioned the 90s to you? I really do wonder about your motivation. The guy has compiled an accurate account of the squad.
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4 Jul 2018, 10:24 AM
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The major issue with McGinn is he's been signed to help improve the first team in years to come, whereas we need players (albeit not in his position) to improve the first team in the next couple of weeks.
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4 Jul 2018, 10:25 AM
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- 4 Jul 2018, 09:59 AM
Our squad management is a shambles. We currently have 13 midfielders listed as first team players on the website, plus Johnstone, so 14.
Our only current rumours are for two midfielders. So 16 midfielders will be on the books. What happens then when we can't shift any of the existing 14? Sell them? We'll sell Allan to Hibs no problems. Great, 15 midfielders left. Then we have Christie, Hayes, Eboue, Benyu? Could anyone in Scotland afford them, and would anyone down south want them? More loan deals until their contracts eventually expire?
We have 1 left back who we're probably going to sell against everyones wishes, while we have 3 right backs, 2 aren't good enough and the other 1 has a year left at this level, if that. Our only new centre back in 2 years is shampooe and probably for sale. One of our others is still at the WC and has a year left on his deal, another can't play on 3 of the 11 away pitches in the league. It's a shambles.
You should consider going back to bed. Clearly the world is a very scary place for you at the moment. Selling a (sorry, the) left back against everyone's wishes? If he goes, then it will not be against his wishes. Change happens - we'll cope. Has anyone ever mentioned the 90s to you? The 90's! Celtic da' alert! 
Now, egan's post was quite hyperbolic but FFS, just 'cause it was shampooe in the 90's, doesn't mean we shouldn't strive for excellence now.
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4 Jul 2018, 10:27 AM
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Our squad management is a shambles. We currently have 13 midfielders listed as first team players on the website, plus Johnstone, so 14.
Our only current rumours are for two midfielders. So 16 midfielders will be on the books. What happens then when we can't shift any of the existing 14? Sell them? We'll sell Allan to Hibs no problems. Great, 15 midfielders left. Then we have Christie, Hayes, Eboue, Benyu? Could anyone in Scotland afford them, and would anyone down south want them? More loan deals until their contracts eventually expire?
We have 1 left back who we're probably going to sell against everyones wishes, while we have 3 right backs, 2 aren't good enough and the other 1 has a year left at this level, if that. Our only new centre back in 2 years is shampooe and probably for sale. One of our others is still at the WC and has a year left on his deal, another can't play on 3 of the 11 away pitches in the league. It's a shambles.
You should consider going back to bed. Clearly the world is a very scary place for you at the moment. Selling a (sorry, the) left back against everyone's wishes? If he goes, then it will not be against his wishes. Change happens - we'll cope. Has anyone ever mentioned the 90s to you?
The 90's! Celtic da' alert!  Now, egan's post was quite hyperbolic but FFS, just 'cause it was shampooe in the 90's, doesn't mean we shouldn't strive for excellence now. Thanks for the support although the numbers are correct. Maybe the Tierney bit was hyperbolic but we will literally have between 14-16 first team midfielders...
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4 Jul 2018, 10:27 AM
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Our squad management is a shambles. We currently have 13 midfielders listed as first team players on the website, plus Johnstone, so 14.
Our only current rumours are for two midfielders. So 16 midfielders will be on the books. What happens then when we can't shift any of the existing 14? Sell them? We'll sell Allan to Hibs no problems. Great, 15 midfielders left. Then we have Christie, Hayes, Eboue, Benyu? Could anyone in Scotland afford them, and would anyone down south want them? More loan deals until their contracts eventually expire?
We have 1 left back who we're probably going to sell against everyones wishes, while we have 3 right backs, 2 aren't good enough and the other 1 has a year left at this level, if that. Our only new centre back in 2 years is shampooe and probably for sale. One of our others is still at the WC and has a year left on his deal, another can't play on 3 of the 11 away pitches in the league. It's a shambles.
You should consider going back to bed. Clearly the world is a very scary place for you at the moment. Selling a (sorry, the) left back against everyone's wishes? If he goes, then it will not be against his wishes. Change happens - we'll cope. Has anyone ever mentioned the 90s to you? Whether it's Tierney driving the decision or the club, the fact we've gone a full year without having a back up for him, while being painfully short on quality defenders in general, is absolutely poor squad management. Nobody will ever forget how bad the 90's were, but 'at least it's not as bad as the 90's' isn't an excuse for our repeated and increasingly bizarre failures to build on a position of strength over the last 15 years.
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4 Jul 2018, 10:27 AM
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Our squad management is a shambles. We currently have 13 midfielders listed as first team players on the website, plus Johnstone, so 14.
Our only current rumours are for two midfielders. So 16 midfielders will be on the books. What happens then when we can't shift any of the existing 14? Sell them? We'll sell Allan to Hibs no problems. Great, 15 midfielders left. Then we have Christie, Hayes, Eboue, Benyu? Could anyone in Scotland afford them, and would anyone down south want them? More loan deals until their contracts eventually expire?
We have 1 left back who we're probably going to sell against everyones wishes, while we have 3 right backs, 2 aren't good enough and the other 1 has a year left at this level, if that. Our only new centre back in 2 years is shampooe and probably for sale. One of our others is still at the WC and has a year left on his deal, another can't play on 3 of the 11 away pitches in the league. It's a shambles.
You should consider going back to bed. Clearly the world is a very scary place for you at the moment. Selling a (sorry, the) left back against everyone's wishes? If he goes, then it will not be against his wishes. Change happens - we'll cope. Has anyone ever mentioned the 90s to you?
Why? You confident in the squad we have? We have gone backwards on last season. Our squad is bloated in certain areas whilst being short in others. I was too young to remember the 90's as a Celtic fan. I'm sure it was an awful time. We're all reminded about it whenever somebody criticises Celtic in today's day and age. Almost as if you aren't allowed to opine unless you compare it to the 90's. Thanks for the patronising response though. Struggling actually to see what point you're making. The reference to the 90s was sarcastic. My apologies if you thought my reply condescending. I have every confidence that Brendan Rodgers and his team do understand the squad imbalance and will be engaged in taking steps to rectify it.
Yes I'm confident in the squad we have to navigate through to the group stages of the CL. Can the squad be improved? Yes again. However I think that people are looking at us signing ready-made additions who can help deliver wins against the Barcas, the PSGs and the Real Madrids that we might come up against. I can't see that happening.
A long while ago on here I read a comment about people needing to manage their expectations in our signings. I think it's as true today as it was then.
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4 Jul 2018, 10:29 AM
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Why? You confident in the squad we have? We have gone backwards on last season. Our squad is bloated in certain areas whilst being short in others. I was too young to remember the 90's as a Celtic fan. I'm sure it was an awful time. We're all reminded about it whenever somebody criticises Celtic in today's day and age. Almost as if you aren't allowed to opine unless you compare it to the 90's. Thanks for the patronising response though. Struggling actually to see what point you're making.
The reference to the 90s was sarcastic. My apologies if you thought my reply condescending. I have every confidence that Brendan Rodgers and his team do understand the squad imbalance and will be engaged in taking steps to rectify it. Yes I'm confident in the squad we have to navigate through to the group stages of the CL. Can the squad be improved? Yes again. However I think that people are looking at us signing ready-made additions who can help deliver wins against the Barcas, the PSGs and the Real Madrids that we might come up against. I can't see that happening. A long while ago on here I read a comment about people needing to manage their expectations in our signings. I think it's as true today as it was then. A fair response lets hope the imbalance is addressed
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