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Summer '18 Transfer Window; all Celtic stuff in here
Topic Started: 21 May 2018, 11:41 AM (855,314 Views)
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If Brendan wants him for £2-£3million Brendan will get him. I think some are undervaluing McGinn. Best player in the league outside Celtic. SPFL strongest it’s been last year in recent years. In today’s market it’s not a big price. We just got £7million for Armstrong who was in a similar position. To pay potentially under half of that for a player who IMO could get to that level within 2 seasons is good business. We paid over £2million for the likes of Balde, Bangura etc.

McGinn won’t go down south. The unlikely scenario Hibs stick with a £4million+ valuation plus Scott Allan he will ride it out till Xmas.
He wasn`t even Hibs best player last season and they finished 4th.If Brendan thinks he can do something with him fair enough but I`m not for polishing him up into something he wasn`t and he was not the best player in the league outside us.
Who at Hibs was a better player last year? In my opinion he is. Against Celtic he was a stand out. I can’t recall a player giving us more of a headache than McGinn. Who would you say is a better player?
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McGinn was the best player at Hibs last year.

McGeouch is the one people keep mentioning; he might look a more elegant player but he had much less of an impact on games than McGinn did.
Mcgeouch won Hibs players and fans player of the year awards. HIbs guys might know better.
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If Brendan wants him for £2-£3million Brendan will get him. I think some are undervaluing McGinn. Best player in the league outside Celtic. SPFL strongest it’s been last year in recent years. In today’s market it’s not a big price. We just got £7million for Armstrong who was in a similar position. To pay potentially under half of that for a player who IMO could get to that level within 2 seasons is good business. We paid over £2million for the likes of Balde, Bangura etc.

McGinn won’t go down south. The unlikely scenario Hibs stick with a £4million+ valuation plus Scott Allan he will ride it out till Xmas.
McGinn wasn't even Hibs best player last year :ponder:
Who would you say was better? McGeouch?
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3 Jul 2018, 08:42 AM

McGinn has desire & hunger, he can run all day & provide a lot of energy to the midfield.
3 million and thats all the attributes you can list.
Yet people want £40mil for Tierney....
Folk at least have more to say about Tierney game rather than just 3 different ways to say "he runs aboot"

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McGinn was the best player at Hibs last year.

McGeouch is the one people keep mentioning; he might look a more elegant player but he had much less of an impact on games than McGinn did.
Mcgeouch won Hibs players and fans player of the year awards. HIbs guys might know better.
So why has he ended up at League 1 Sunderland and why wasn’t he chased off a top half Championship team or even Celtic?
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3 Jul 2018, 09:53 AM
McGinn was the best player at Hibs last year.

McGeouch is the one people keep mentioning; he might look a more elegant player but he had much less of an impact on games than McGinn did.
Mcgeouch won Hibs players and fans player of the year awards. HIbs guys might know better.
So why has he ended up at League 1 Sunderland and why wasn’t he chased off a top half Championship team or even Celtic?
Because Sunderland will offer more money and Celtic aren`t interested.
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Away from home in Europe I would expect to see McGinn offer our defence more protection the Armstrong (fine player) did. I would also expect him to be more of a goal threat and keep possession better too.
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£1m plus Allan and a player on loan? Miller, Ralston, Kouassi, Johnston?
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3 Jul 2018, 08:10 AM
Reckon Hibs will deal for around £2.5-£3million plus Scott Allan which for me is a very fair price considering he’s last year of contract. Be a good addition who will get better and better.
I'm neither here nor there with McGinn. If he signs he will be a decent addition, but not for the £3-£3.5 m mark your getting to. Even if he had years on his contract.

Hibs have their value and they can stick to that. Whether they get it or not is another thing.

I think if stories are to be believed? if Celtic threw in SA plus the alleged £1.5m then that is plenty.

If Hibs can get three or four million from the English then good luck to them.
If Brendan wants him for £2-£3million Brendan will get him. I think some are undervaluing McGinn. Best player in the league outside Celtic. SPFL strongest it’s been last year in recent years. In today’s market it’s not a big price. We just got £7million for Armstrong who was in a similar position. To pay potentially under half of that for a player who IMO could get to that level within 2 seasons is good business. We paid over £2million for the likes of Balde, Bangura etc.

McGinn won’t go down south. The unlikely scenario Hibs stick with a £4million+ valuation plus Scott Allan he will ride it out till Xmas.
We signed the best player in the league outside Celtic last summer. It pretty much couldnt have gone any worse. With regards to the strong league, I dont agree. Most competitive, yes, but not strong. Scottish football seems to have this annual cycle where the league is terrible, then we build ourselves up over the course of a season into thinking its good again. We're only about 3 weeks away from it being utter shampooe.
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3 Jul 2018, 09:53 AM
McGinn was the best player at Hibs last year.

McGeouch is the one people keep mentioning; he might look a more elegant player but he had much less of an impact on games than McGinn did.
Mcgeouch won Hibs players and fans player of the year awards. HIbs guys might know better.
McGinn was nominated for Scottish player of the year. McGeouch wasn't. That tells you everything or nothing depending on how you skew your argument.

McGinn has scored more goals and has made more assists whilst playing from a more defensive role. I like McGeouch, he looks like the classier player of the two, but I don't think he has as big an impact on games as McGinn.
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So why has he ended up at League 1 Sunderland and why wasn’t he chased off a top half Championship team or even Celtic?
Because Sunderland will offer more money and Celtic aren`t interested.
Sunderland offer more money than a team in league above them?

Celtic weren’t interested for a reason.
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I think McGinn is a player in desperate need of a settled role in a team. At Hibs he seems to be a bit too much of an all-action type player. If we can get him in, and get him disciplined enough to play whatever specific role the manager has in mind for him, he could be a very shrewd signing.
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3 Jul 2018, 09:53 AM
McGinn was the best player at Hibs last year.

McGeouch is the one people keep mentioning; he might look a more elegant player but he had much less of an impact on games than McGinn did.
Mcgeouch won Hibs players and fans player of the year awards. HIbs guys might know better.
McGinn was nominated for Scottish player of the year. McGeouch wasn't. That tells you everything or nothing depending on how you skew your argument.

McGinn has scored more goals and has made more assists whilst playing from a more defensive role. I like McGeouch, he looks like the classier player of the two, but I don't think he has as big an impact on games as McGinn.
Kris Boyd was nominated too, we`re not signing him thankfully.

FWIW I know a lot of our fans like him as he`s one of us but I know a lot of Hibees and one of my mates sons has a very good job at Hibs and they all say the same. Mcgeouch was their best player and will be their biggest loss.
Edited by Maleys Spirit, 3 Jul 2018, 10:21 AM.
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3 Jul 2018, 08:15 AM
2 plus Allan. Should do it. I'd be wary of going above that.
I think thats what they will deal at.

They have lost mcgeough as well so they will want allan in very soon.
Mikey89 said the other day that Allan isn't going anywhere just now :ponder:
Don’t think he said it in public :lol:
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I think McGinn is a player in desperate need of a settled role in a team. At Hibs he seems to be a bit too much of an all-action type player. If we can get him in, and get him disciplined enough to play whatever specific role the manager has in mind for him, he could be a very shrewd signing.
McGinn has some way to go before he would get in Celtic team. His ball retention is poor. Hibs play him further forward to avoid loosing ball in dangerous positions. When he tried to play 'Brown' role for Scotland he was liability.
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McGinn was nominated for Scottish player of the year. McGeouch wasn't. That tells you everything or nothing depending on how you skew your argument.

McGinn has scored more goals and has made more assists whilst playing from a more defensive role. I like McGeouch, he looks like the classier player of the two, but I don't think he has as big an impact on games as McGinn.
Kris Boyd was nominated too, we`re not signing him thankfully.

FWIW I know a lot of our fans like him as he`s one of us but I know a lot of Hibees and one of my mates sons has a very good job at Hibs and they all say the same. Mcgeouch was their best player and will be their biggest loss.
Ok, well in my opinion McGinn is the more effective player for them and his goals, assists and performances against us, Sevco, Hearts and Aberdeen are enough to convince me he'd be a worthwhile acquisition.
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If Brendan wants him for £2-£3million Brendan will get him. I think some are undervaluing McGinn. Best player in the league outside Celtic. SPFL strongest it’s been last year in recent years. In today’s market it’s not a big price. We just got £7million for Armstrong who was in a similar position. To pay potentially under half of that for a player who IMO could get to that level within 2 seasons is good business. We paid over £2million for the likes of Balde, Bangura etc.

McGinn won’t go down south. The unlikely scenario Hibs stick with a £4million+ valuation plus Scott Allan he will ride it out till Xmas.
We signed the best player in the league outside Celtic last summer. It pretty much couldnt have gone any worse. With regards to the strong league, I dont agree. Most competitive, yes, but not strong. Scottish football seems to have this annual cycle where the league is terrible, then we build ourselves up over the course of a season into thinking its good again. We're only about 3 weeks away from it being utter shampooe.
Yeah fair point. Hayes hasn’t worked out at all. He hit like 24 assists for Aberdeen that season before which is crazy. Leg break was a sore one but I think he would have still struggled without it. I do feel McGinn is different in sense he’s younger and has more time for development.

I think the league is stronger. The final table showed it.
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McGinn was nominated for Scottish player of the year. McGeouch wasn't. That tells you everything or nothing depending on how you skew your argument.

McGinn has scored more goals and has made more assists whilst playing from a more defensive role. I like McGeouch, he looks like the classier player of the two, but I don't think he has as big an impact on games as McGinn.
Kris Boyd was nominated too, we`re not signing him thankfully.

FWIW I know a lot of our fans like him as he`s one of us but I know a lot of Hibees and one of my mates sons has a very good job at Hibs and they all say the same. Mcgeouch was their best player and will be their biggest loss.
From the Hibs lads I speak to its similar, they are more gutted about Dylan, and rate him a lot higher.
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Kris Boyd was nominated too, we`re not signing him thankfully.

FWIW I know a lot of our fans like him as he`s one of us but I know a lot of Hibees and one of my mates sons has a very good job at Hibs and they all say the same. Mcgeouch was their best player and will be their biggest loss.
Ok, well in my opinion McGinn is the more effective player for them and his goals, assists and performances against us, Sevco, Hearts and Aberdeen are enough to convince me he'd be a worthwhile acquisition.
Fair enough and you`re perfectly enttiled to it, it`s not worth a lengthy argument but these guys watched them both week in, week out and voted for Dylan who couldn`t get game time for us.
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Why make it public? Get the price, agree it or don't. We laughed at the huns for their pointless offers for goodwillie.

Happens all the time I guess. Better when a deal is just announced and no floofing around
Maybe it was Hibs who let it out the bag
But I dont understand why we would pay £2m or more - he stays at Hibs, gets the games and we sign him on a free at the turn of the year, no?
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