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Summer '18 Transfer Window; all Celtic stuff in here
Topic Started: 21 May 2018, 11:41 AM (855,315 Views)
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3 Jul 2018, 08:26 AM
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3 Jul 2018, 08:22 AM
Eff sake
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3 Jul 2018, 08:10 AM
Reckon Hibs will deal for around £2.5-£3million plus Scott Allan which for me is a very fair price considering he’s last year of contract. Be a good addition who will get better and better.
I'm neither here nor there with McGinn. If he signs he will be a decent addition, but not for the £3-£3.5 m mark your getting to. Even if he had years on his contract.

Hibs have their value and they can stick to that. Whether they get it or not is another thing.

I think if stories are to be believed? if Celtic threw in SA plus the alleged £1.5m then that is plenty.

If Hibs can get three or four million from the English then good luck to them.
Edited by bigdavie, 3 Jul 2018, 08:44 AM.
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3 Jul 2018, 08:36 AM
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3 Jul 2018, 08:10 AM
Reckon Hibs will deal for around £2.5-£3million plus Scott Allan which for me is a very fair price considering he’s last year of contract. Be a good addition who will get better and better.
I'm neither here nor there with McGinn. If he signs he will be a decent addition, but bot for the £3-£3.5 m mark your getting to. Even if he had years on his contract.

Hibs have their value and they can stick to that. Whether they get it or not is another thing.

I think if stories are to be believed? if Celtic through in SA plus the alleged £1.5m then that is plenty.

If Hibs can get three or four million from the English then good luck to them.
I read that last sentence in a Quaker accent :ph43r:
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3 Jul 2018, 01:16 AM
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I'm a tad disappointed we are not going for someone a step up from McGinn. Don't get me wrong I think he's a decent enough player with potential to improve further but in terms of going that step further in Europe it's not what I was hoping for.

I honestly can't see him getting in the team and one could argue we're weaker by letting Armstrong go and bringing in McGinn.
You could argue it, but Armstrong did nothing last year and didn't want to be here. McGinn will improve. If we get a good 8 months or so out of him over the piece he'll have matched Armstrong at least.

We were never going to sign a 'ready' player when we have Ntcham and Brown there to play most games.
We won't progress in Europe then. We should always be looking to improve. I agree Armstrong was poor last season but if you're asking me who the better player is or who I'd rather in my team I would say Armstrong every day of the week. There's a reason Southampton paid £7m for him.

McGinn won't get ahead of Brown or Ntcham. Would he even get a game ahead of McGregor or a fully fit Biton? I'm not convinced he would at this moment. A strange signing for me.
Thought you were serious until you mentioned Bitton
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I'd guess that Celtic can get their message to McGinn fairly easy that they want him & that he can get his message to Celtic if he wants to come - without actually tapping him up.
Hibs are not in a good position if he wants to come, due to him being able to sign for free in January.

If he's a Celtic player & Hibs get Scott Allan + a bit more than our initial bid, I'd think that's acceptable & likely.

McGinn has desire & hunger, he can run all day & provide a lot of energy to the midfield. Brown & McGregor do this, we need more who can. I guess the manager appreciates his energy & mentality the most, that's a great starting point & his other attributes are well known to us.

He's got Celtic player written all over him & I'll be glad when it happens.
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3 Jul 2018, 08:15 AM
2 plus Allan. Should do it. I'd be wary of going above that.
I think thats what they will deal at.

They have lost mcgeough as well so they will want allan in very soon.
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3 Jul 2018, 01:14 AM
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3 Jul 2018, 08:15 AM
2 plus Allan. Should do it. I'd be wary of going above that.
I think thats what they will deal at.

They have lost mcgeough as well so they will want allan in very soon.
Mikey89 said the other day that Allan isn't going anywhere just now :ponder:
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3 Jul 2018, 08:15 AM
2 plus Allan. Should do it. I'd be wary of going above that.
Agreed. We signed 'the best non-Celtic player in the league' last summer and he was pretty poor. I'm not a big fan of McGinn. His passing is poor, and his tackling is rash. £2m isnt a huge amount of money any more, so it might be worth it to see how much he can improve with good coaches. We would easily get it back sending him to the English Championship if it didnt work out.
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Given Rodgers' almost constant message of adding quality instead of quantity, I would find McGinn and Wilson very odd signings if they do happen. IMO neither are as good as the player they are earmarked to replace and neither will be anything like 1st choice in their position if they do sign.

I get that numbers are required for both positions but surely we should strive to replace both Roberts and Armstrong with similar, if not better, quality players?
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3 Jul 2018, 08:38 AM
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3 Jul 2018, 08:10 AM
Reckon Hibs will deal for around £2.5-£3million plus Scott Allan which for me is a very fair price considering he’s last year of contract. Be a good addition who will get better and better.
I'm neither here nor there with McGinn. If he signs he will be a decent addition, but bot for the £3-£3.5 m mark your getting to. Even if he had years on his contract.

Hibs have their value and they can stick to that. Whether they get it or not is another thing.

I think if stories are to be believed? if Celtic through in SA plus the alleged £1.5m then that is plenty.

If Hibs can get three or four million from the English then good luck to them.
I read that last sentence in a Quaker accent :ph43r:
:lol: Very good.
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NoPaseran36
3 Jul 2018, 08:57 AM
Given Rodgers' almost constant message of adding quality instead of quantity, I would find McGinn and Wilson very odd signings if they do happen. IMO neither are as good as the player they are earmarked to replace and neither will be anything like 1st choice in their position if they do sign.

I get that numbers are required for both positions but surely we should strive to replace both Roberts and Armstrong with similar, if not better, quality players?
If you've been listening to the manager, then you'll also know that he's said replacing the outgoing players with similar or better quality costs a lot of money.

We're never going to sell a player to the £PL & then buy a direct replacement, we'll always have to buy someone who can work up towards being that guy.

McGinn wanting to be here, is a better player than Armstrong wanting away is.
Remains to be seen if McGinn can be as good or better than Armstrong at his height, but Armstrong didn't hit those heights for long - so maybe he's got a chance?

As for signing 1st choice players to replace Armstrong & Roberts, neither of these players were 1st choice when they left - so why should their replacements be? :ponder:
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3 Jul 2018, 08:36 AM
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Reckon Hibs will deal for around £2.5-£3million plus Scott Allan which for me is a very fair price considering he’s last year of contract. Be a good addition who will get better and better.
I'm neither here nor there with McGinn. If he signs he will be a decent addition, but not for the £3-£3.5 m mark your getting to. Even if he had years on his contract.

Hibs have their value and they can stick to that. Whether they get it or not is another thing.

I think if stories are to be believed? if Celtic threw in SA plus the alleged £1.5m then that is plenty.

If Hibs can get three or four million from the English then good luck to them.
If Brendan wants him for £2-£3million Brendan will get him. I think some are undervaluing McGinn. Best player in the league outside Celtic. SPFL strongest it’s been last year in recent years. In today’s market it’s not a big price. We just got £7million for Armstrong who was in a similar position. To pay potentially under half of that for a player who IMO could get to that level within 2 seasons is good business. We paid over £2million for the likes of Balde, Bangura etc.

McGinn won’t go down south. The unlikely scenario Hibs stick with a £4million+ valuation plus Scott Allan he will ride it out till Xmas.
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Hairytoes
3 Jul 2018, 08:42 AM

McGinn has desire & hunger, he can run all day & provide a lot of energy to the midfield.
3 million and thats all the attributes you can list.
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3 Jul 2018, 08:42 AM

McGinn has desire & hunger, he can run all day & provide a lot of energy to the midfield.
3 million and thats all the attributes you can list.
Yet people want £40mil for Tierney....
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3 Jul 2018, 09:35 AM
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3 Jul 2018, 08:36 AM
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3 Jul 2018, 08:10 AM
Reckon Hibs will deal for around £2.5-£3million plus Scott Allan which for me is a very fair price considering he’s last year of contract. Be a good addition who will get better and better.
I'm neither here nor there with McGinn. If he signs he will be a decent addition, but not for the £3-£3.5 m mark your getting to. Even if he had years on his contract.

Hibs have their value and they can stick to that. Whether they get it or not is another thing.

I think if stories are to be believed? if Celtic threw in SA plus the alleged £1.5m then that is plenty.

If Hibs can get three or four million from the English then good luck to them.
If Brendan wants him for £2-£3million Brendan will get him. I think some are undervaluing McGinn. Best player in the league outside Celtic. SPFL strongest it’s been last year in recent years. In today’s market it’s not a big price. We just got £7million for Armstrong who was in a similar position. To pay potentially under half of that for a player who IMO could get to that level within 2 seasons is good business. We paid over £2million for the likes of Balde, Bangura etc.

McGinn won’t go down south. The unlikely scenario Hibs stick with a £4million+ valuation plus Scott Allan he will ride it out till Xmas.
He wasn`t even Hibs best player last season and they finished 4th.If Brendan thinks he can do something with him fair enough but I`m not for polishing him up into something he wasn`t and he was not the best player in the league outside us.
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3 Jul 2018, 09:35 AM
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3 Jul 2018, 08:36 AM
Luka_Bloom
3 Jul 2018, 08:10 AM
Reckon Hibs will deal for around £2.5-£3million plus Scott Allan which for me is a very fair price considering he’s last year of contract. Be a good addition who will get better and better.
I'm neither here nor there with McGinn. If he signs he will be a decent addition, but not for the £3-£3.5 m mark your getting to. Even if he had years on his contract.

Hibs have their value and they can stick to that. Whether they get it or not is another thing.

I think if stories are to be believed? if Celtic threw in SA plus the alleged £1.5m then that is plenty.

If Hibs can get three or four million from the English then good luck to them.
If Brendan wants him for £2-£3million Brendan will get him. I think some are undervaluing McGinn. Best player in the league outside Celtic. SPFL strongest it’s been last year in recent years. In today’s market it’s not a big price. We just got £7million for Armstrong who was in a similar position. To pay potentially under half of that for a player who IMO could get to that level within 2 seasons is good business. We paid over £2million for the likes of Balde, Bangura etc.

McGinn won’t go down south. The unlikely scenario Hibs stick with a £4million+ valuation plus Scott Allan he will ride it out till Xmas.
He wasn't even the best player at Hibs!
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3 Jul 2018, 08:10 AM
Reckon Hibs will deal for around £2.5-£3million plus Scott Allan which for me is a very fair price considering he’s last year of contract. Be a good addition who will get better and better.
I'm neither here nor there with McGinn. If he signs he will be a decent addition, but not for the £3-£3.5 m mark your getting to. Even if he had years on his contract.

Hibs have their value and they can stick to that. Whether they get it or not is another thing.

I think if stories are to be believed? if Celtic threw in SA plus the alleged £1.5m then that is plenty.

If Hibs can get three or four million from the English then good luck to them.
If Brendan wants him for £2-£3million Brendan will get him. I think some are undervaluing McGinn. Best player in the league outside Celtic. SPFL strongest it’s been last year in recent years. In today’s market it’s not a big price. We just got £7million for Armstrong who was in a similar position. To pay potentially under half of that for a player who IMO could get to that level within 2 seasons is good business. We paid over £2million for the likes of Balde, Bangura etc.

McGinn won’t go down south. The unlikely scenario Hibs stick with a £4million+ valuation plus Scott Allan he will ride it out till Xmas.
McGinn wasn't even Hibs best player last year :ponder:
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McGinn was the best player at Hibs last year.

McGeouch is the one people keep mentioning; he might look a more elegant player but he had much less of an impact on games than McGinn did.
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Hibs don't have much leverage here.

One way or another they are facing a McGinn, McGeouch, Allan and Barker sized hole in their midfield, and their one bargaining chip can start talking to clubs about a Bosman in six months time.

We can help them with one part of filling the midfield hole, and give them a decent wedge to do something about the rest of it.

All for a player who in all probability sees Celtic as his number one choice. If they baulk at £2m plus Allan then we should tell McGinn's agent we'll see them in January.

If he goes elsewhere for more then good luck to them.
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