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Summer '18 Transfer Window; all Celtic stuff in here
Topic Started: 21 May 2018, 11:41 AM (855,336 Views)
kewlcelt
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Rodgers honesty may be a shock here but he's absolutely right. Doesn't matter how much a fan of the club you are, if you're a player and have the chance to earn up to 100 grand a week down south there's no way we can, or should stand in his way.

KT signed a six year deal because he loves the club and that deal gives protection meaning he has a long enough contract if someone comes in that they need to pay tens of millions.

It's naive to think he is going to be here much longer given how good he is.
Edited by kewlcelt, 30 Jun 2018, 10:55 AM.
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30 Jun 2018, 02:05 AM
If Rodgers come out and says KT isnt for sale then gets and 30m offer and sells him he looks like a clown.. what he has said is we will not stand in his way which is the same as he has said about every other player .. its a nothing story
Correct.
We have a manager who is eloquent and honest, end of.
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30 Jun 2018, 08:57 AM
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30 Jun 2018, 08:19 AM
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30 Jun 2018, 07:33 AM
Playing devil’s advocate, you can turn BRs “ short career, moral obligation” remarks on their head , and consider that PLC Asset/ KTs career are one and the same. Why risk not selling your biggest asset at a premium when there’s a risk of losing it at some time down the line?
I very much doubt KT will go anywhere near Everton, and I’d be astonished if the price was anything less than around £40m come the time, but if you want to sound out the market, this is the way to do it. Man Utd will be watching closely.
As will Man City. They are interested.
Everton would be a better move at this point than Man City. They need a left back, he'd be guaranteed to play and there would be a more patient settling in period.

As good as Tierney is, and can be, he's still viewed very much with green tinted specs amongst our fans and has plenty to his game that needs working on, like positioning and crossing. Has potential to be world class, but will need time and I don't think an unforgiving atmosphere like at a City, Utd, or Chelsea would be a good move for the lad.
I agree however I have been told by a reasonable source that Man City are keen on Tierney and have asked Celtic to be informed if anyone bids for him.
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I got stick yesterday for suggesting a reality check and that Tierney was likely to leave within a couple of years. Even I’m surprised at what has developed overnight.
However another reality check is necessary. People need to get real about a fee for Tierney. There is no way we are getting in excess of £30million. We will do well to get the £20m plus reportedly offered by Everton (even then I suspect a good chunnk will be add ons).

It’s sore but it’s modern football. Tierney may well love the club but he will go sooner rather than later and there is nothing Celtic can do about that other than get the best fee possible.

As I said yesterday Tierney didn’t join a big London agency just to get a pay rise from Celtic.
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Goodbye Sevillian
30 Jun 2018, 11:21 AM
deccercfc
30 Jun 2018, 02:05 AM
If Rodgers come out and says KT isnt for sale then gets and 30m offer and sells him he looks like a clown.. what he has said is we will not stand in his way which is the same as he has said about every other player .. its a nothing story
Correct.
We have a manager who is eloquent and honest, end of.
It also tells potential signings and agent how we operate making us more appealing to players who see us operating a mutually beneficial process. Would go as far as using the dreaded win/win cliche.

There are so many examples now of how players have benefited from their time with us in the last 5 years while we have also done well from it.




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As much as we all want Kieran to stay (and I think he will) we are in a no lose situation here.


If he did go we are getting at least £30m which should be enough in itself to secure the 10.
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Frank Murphy
30 Jun 2018, 11:37 AM
I got stick yesterday for suggesting a reality check and that Tierney was likely to leave within a couple of years. Even I’m surprised at what has developed overnight.
However another reality check is necessary. People need to get real about a fee for Tierney. There is no way we are getting in excess of £30million. We will do well to get the £20m plus reportedly offered by Everton (even then I suspect a good chunnk will be add ons).

It’s sore but it’s modern football. Tierney may well love the club but he will go sooner rather than later and there is nothing Celtic can do about that other than get the best fee possible.

As I said yesterday Tierney didn’t join a big London agency just to get a pay rise from Celtic.
Celtic shouldn't entertain anything less than 30. It should be the starting point regardless of add-ons.
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Frank Murphy
30 Jun 2018, 11:37 AM
I got stick yesterday for suggesting a reality check and that Tierney was likely to leave within a couple of years. Even I’m surprised at what has developed overnight.
However another reality check is necessary. People need to get real about a fee for Tierney. There is no way we are getting in excess of £30million. We will do well to get the £20m plus reportedly offered by Everton (even then I suspect a good chunnk will be add ons).

It’s sore but it’s modern football. Tierney may well love the club but he will go sooner rather than later and there is nothing Celtic can do about that other than get the best fee possible.

As I said yesterday Tierney didn’t join a big London agency just to get a pay rise from Celtic.
At least you're being Frank.
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30 Jun 2018, 10:45 AM
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30 Jun 2018, 10:15 AM
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30 Jun 2018, 10:12 AM

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Nonsense
What have they done?
Finished 4th when Moyes was in charge. That was quite an achievement for them considering their squad size and budget.

That’s about it in modern times
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30 Jun 2018, 11:41 AM
Frank Murphy
30 Jun 2018, 11:37 AM
I got stick yesterday for suggesting a reality check and that Tierney was likely to leave within a couple of years. Even I’m surprised at what has developed overnight.
However another reality check is necessary. People need to get real about a fee for Tierney. There is no way we are getting in excess of £30million. We will do well to get the £20m plus reportedly offered by Everton (even then I suspect a good chunnk will be add ons).

It’s sore but it’s modern football. Tierney may well love the club but he will go sooner rather than later and there is nothing Celtic can do about that other than get the best fee possible.

As I said yesterday Tierney didn’t join a big London agency just to get a pay rise from Celtic.
At least you're being Frank.
I think he needs to talk to Frank
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Kingslim
30 Jun 2018, 11:41 AM
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30 Jun 2018, 10:15 AM

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What have they done?
Finished 4th when Moyes was in charge. That was quite an achievement for them considering their squad size and budget.

That’s about it in modern times
I'm inclined to agree that they've been shampoo for quite a while in that case.
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liamdav06
30 Jun 2018, 09:13 AM
RE Tierney, is there a chance Rodgers comments were for the benefit of someone else? i.e. a public reaffirmation of comments made in private to a promising young transfer target, in am attempt to convince them we are a club who can, and will, develop players and then not stand in their way when the time is right for them to move on?
This is a great point. Part of our lure these days is that we can develop players who have Premier League (and other top league) ambitions. This is part of the attraction, like it or not. Of course we have CL football, 60,000 fans in the stadium, European cup winners as part of our pitch. Players will look at VvD and think maybe Celtic can do the same for me.

Think BR language reenforces this message with the hope of attracting players and keeping younger players, young Dembele etc, on board.
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30 Jun 2018, 11:47 AM
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30 Jun 2018, 11:41 AM
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Finished 4th when Moyes was in charge. That was quite an achievement for them considering their squad size and budget.

That’s about it in modern times
I'm inclined to agree that they've been shampoo for quite a while in that case.
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RODGERS: PLENTY OF BUSINESS TO DO
Celtic manager Brendan Rodgers still has work to do in the transfer market this summer.
Rodgers has already secured the permanent signing of Odsonne Edouard while Lewis Morgan has completed his move from St Mirren.
The Hoops squad has been weakened by the departure of Stuart Armstrong to Southampton, though, and Rodgers knows he has a job on his hands to replace him.
“There is no doubt we need to replace, never mind add,” he told Radio Clyde.
“We have lost the likes of Stuart Armstrong, who was a very important player for our squad, and the likes of Patrick Roberts, who was very important for us.
“We need to replace those players and that’s something we hope the club can do over the course of the summer.”
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30 Jun 2018, 09:35 AM
There is nothing new in this -- Brendan Rodgers saw his own playing career cut short before it even got properly started because of injury. He specifically mentioned John Kennedy, to whom the same happened. To Brendan, it IS a moral issue. If KT wants to go and the price is right for Celtic, the club won't stand in his way. That's the same as it's always been. As I said, nothing new. Brendan is making sure that if it is to happen, Celtic will get top dollar and it will be to a bigger club than Everton, I'd hope. In fact, of all the self-styled "big clubs" in England, only Newcastle would be a worse choice, and I'm not even sure about that. KT wants to stay but there's not a Celtic fan in the world who could turn down £80k/£100k a week for four or five years. It was always going to come to this.
This

Also IF there is a buy-out clause in his contract and someone meets it, then it is up to the player.
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Frank Murphy
30 Jun 2018, 11:37 AM
I got stick yesterday for suggesting a reality check and that Tierney was likely to leave within a couple of years. Even I’m surprised at what has developed overnight.
However another reality check is necessary. People need to get real about a fee for Tierney. There is no way we are getting in excess of £30million. We will do well to get the £20m plus reportedly offered by Everton (even then I suspect a good chunnk will be add ons).

It’s sore but it’s modern football. Tierney may well love the club but he will go sooner rather than later and there is nothing Celtic can do about that other than get the best fee possible.

As I said yesterday Tierney didn’t join a big London agency just to get a pay rise from Celtic.
I think you make some fair points - if Tierney's development continues, I don't see him here for 10iar. However that big London agency you talk about negotiated his last contract extension as I understand - feel free to correct if I'm wrong.
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30 Jun 2018, 11:26 AM
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Everton would be a better move at this point than Man City. They need a left back, he'd be guaranteed to play and there would be a more patient settling in period.

As good as Tierney is, and can be, he's still viewed very much with green tinted specs amongst our fans and has plenty to his game that needs working on, like positioning and crossing. Has potential to be world class, but will need time and I don't think an unforgiving atmosphere like at a City, Utd, or Chelsea would be a good move for the lad.
I agree however I have been told by a reasonable source that Man City are keen on Tierney and have asked Celtic to be informed if anyone bids for him.
City are very, very keen on Tierney. I would not be surprised to see them do a buy and loan-back deal for at least a season. Nor would I be surprised if a permanent deal for Roberts was part of the equation.

I don't understand why some people think we should accept £20m from crap like Everton. Leaving aside the 6-year contract, in today's market Tierney is easily worth a lot, lot more and will go to a far richer and bigger club because, although ostensibly a LB, he can also play RB, CH and LWB to a very good standard (maybe even LW). Name me another footballer who can do that?



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If we get offered an eye watering fee (£25m+) the decision will be Tierney’s and his alone. I’m very confident he’ll be here for 10 in a row
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30 Jun 2018, 12:48 PM
If we get offered an eye watering fee (£25m+) the decision will be Tierney’s and his alone. I’m very confident he’ll be here for 10 in a row
£25 isn't an eye watering fee in this age. If Everton are offering £25m, it's because they think that they'll be able to punt him for easily double that in a year.

They're not buying him to challenge for the league.
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If KT signs for Everton I'll eat my c*ck on a store roll. He's better than them at this stage of his career
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