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Summer '18 Transfer Window; all Celtic stuff in here
Topic Started: 21 May 2018, 11:41 AM (855,375 Views)
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allthewine
27 Jun 2018, 01:19 PM
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27 Jun 2018, 01:08 PM
In that 2015/16 Hull promotion season Odubajo played 53 games. More than Andy Robertson, Harry Maguire and players like Elmohamady, Diame, Livermore and Huddlestone. We would be unlikely to get sniffy about any of the aforementioned players. He was also younger than all of them, even Maguire.

Robertson had more goals and assists from the left back position (4 and 7), but Odubajo still had 4 assists.

He has literally not played a competitive game since. Now, there's a huge down side to that in terms of risk and the lad's career, but the return is potentially massive if he is fully rehabilitated, he's mentally strong and has a point to prove.

His clips also show him to have real pace.

Let's face it, some folk would be happier with it if he had a big shiny £3m fee attached.
He hasn't played in two years.

This is a huge risk & one we don't really need to take.
If there's no outlay, and he's on a big appearance bonus style contract then we'd almost be daft not to.
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27 Jun 2018, 01:21 PM
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27 Jun 2018, 01:08 PM
In that 2015/16 Hull promotion season Odubajo played 53 games. More than Andy Robertson, Harry Maguire and players like Elmohamady, Diame, Livermore and Huddlestone. We would be unlikely to get sniffy about any of the aforementioned players. He was also younger than all of them, even Maguire.

Robertson had more goals and assists from the left back position (4 and 7), but Odubajo still had 4 assists.

He has literally not played a competitive game since. Now, there's a huge down side to that in terms of risk and the lad's career, but the return is potentially massive if he is fully rehabilitated, he's mentally strong and has a point to prove.

His clips also show him to have real pace.

Let's face it, some folk would be happier with it if he had a big shiny £3m fee attached.
People are disappointed as this guy is the board's answer to the glaring problem we've had at RB for about three years now. If we had a competent RB, I don't think many would have a problem - Moses would be back up, and could well force himself into the side.

We're essentially rolling the dice on whether or not we continue for another season with Lustig at RB.
If the medical advice is positive then it's as much a risk as any other new singing.
You could sign a player who's been A1 fitness wise for years and no historical issues and they could get crumpled in their first match and out for a season.
If our medics are satisfied that his injuries are completely healed and that there does not appear to be any significant risk of recurrence then that for my money that is about as much of a guarantee that you get with any player.
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Wow! The guy has a big story. He's got a head on his shoulders. Sorry can't embed.

Moses Odubajo


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Surely we trust the medical staff. If they give him the all clear then we shouldn't be concerned over injuries.
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Your right we should continue to attempt to sort our weak defence on the cheap. Under the current manager we have used the petty cash to bring in DDV,Gamboa, Hendry & Compper none of which have strengthened this critical area. Our defence needs major investment & this was the case 3 windows ago. It seems that regardless of the millions we bring in we are simply not prepared to spend on this department of the team.
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27 Jun 2018, 01:25 PM
allthewine
27 Jun 2018, 01:19 PM
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27 Jun 2018, 01:08 PM
In that 2015/16 Hull promotion season Odubajo played 53 games. More than Andy Robertson, Harry Maguire and players like Elmohamady, Diame, Livermore and Huddlestone. We would be unlikely to get sniffy about any of the aforementioned players. He was also younger than all of them, even Maguire.

Robertson had more goals and assists from the left back position (4 and 7), but Odubajo still had 4 assists.

He has literally not played a competitive game since. Now, there's a huge down side to that in terms of risk and the lad's career, but the return is potentially massive if he is fully rehabilitated, he's mentally strong and has a point to prove.

His clips also show him to have real pace.

Let's face it, some folk would be happier with it if he had a big shiny £3m fee attached.
He hasn't played in two years.

This is a huge risk & one we don't really need to take.
If there's no outlay, and he's on a big appearance bonus style contract then we'd almost be daft not to.
I am not sure, mate.

Seems odd to me.

We need a top class right back.

A guy who hasn't played for 2 years is a huge risk.

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In around 30 years Celtic have paid over 2 million quid for a defender around 4 times,Stubbs,Simunovic,Scheidt and VVD. Apart from the fact that defenders are generally cheaper in the market it`s the Celtic way to buy cheap defenders or look for bargains in that area. You`d swear some guys on here just started noticing that recently.

The moral of the story is avoid defenders whose surnames begin with S if you are spending money. The rest will be a mixed bag as ever.
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27 Jun 2018, 01:21 PM
Forza
27 Jun 2018, 01:08 PM
In that 2015/16 Hull promotion season Odubajo played 53 games. More than Andy Robertson, Harry Maguire and players like Elmohamady, Diame, Livermore and Huddlestone. We would be unlikely to get sniffy about any of the aforementioned players. He was also younger than all of them, even Maguire.

Robertson had more goals and assists from the left back position (4 and 7), but Odubajo still had 4 assists.

He has literally not played a competitive game since. Now, there's a huge down side to that in terms of risk and the lad's career, but the return is potentially massive if he is fully rehabilitated, he's mentally strong and has a point to prove.

His clips also show him to have real pace.

Let's face it, some folk would be happier with it if he had a big shiny £3m fee attached.
People are disappointed as this guy is the board's answer to the glaring problem we've had at RB for about three years now. If we had a competent RB, I don't think many would have a problem - Moses would be back up, and could well force himself into the side.

We're essentially rolling the dice on whether or not we continue for another season with Lustig at RB.
Our answer to the problem in 2012 was Lustig. On a free from Rosenborg. On the whole it worked out not too bad.


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allthewine
27 Jun 2018, 01:36 PM
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27 Jun 2018, 01:25 PM
allthewine
27 Jun 2018, 01:19 PM

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If there's no outlay, and he's on a big appearance bonus style contract then we'd almost be daft not to.
I am not sure, mate.

Seems odd to me.

We need a top class right back.

A guy who hasn't played for 2 years is a huge risk.

Bear in mind that we're trying to replace two right backs who play at international level. It's not always easy to find someone of that standard on our budget. It seems that the guy was destined for a top career before a bad injury hindered his progress. Assuming he hadn't been injured, he'd likely have played in the EPL. It's a risk, of course, but it seems like a calculated one.

I agree that money should be invested into the first XI but I suspect that our serious outlay will go on a central defender plus some improved contracts for players like Dembeble and (maybe) Boyata. Not ideal but this might be the best way to strengthen the squad overall.
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allthewine
27 Jun 2018, 01:19 PM
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27 Jun 2018, 01:08 PM
In that 2015/16 Hull promotion season Odubajo played 53 games. More than Andy Robertson, Harry Maguire and players like Elmohamady, Diame, Livermore and Huddlestone. We would be unlikely to get sniffy about any of the aforementioned players. He was also younger than all of them, even Maguire.

Robertson had more goals and assists from the left back position (4 and 7), but Odubajo still had 4 assists.

He has literally not played a competitive game since. Now, there's a huge down side to that in terms of risk and the lad's career, but the return is potentially massive if he is fully rehabilitated, he's mentally strong and has a point to prove.

His clips also show him to have real pace.

Let's face it, some folk would be happier with it if he had a big shiny £3m fee attached.
He hasn't played in two years.

This is a huge risk & one we don't really need to take.
If there's no outlay, and he's on a big appearance bonus style contract then we'd almost be daft not to.
Given its unlikely we will sign 2 right backs this summer, if moses doesnt work out, we have another year watching lustig at right back. The financial risk isnt big but the starting 11 doesnt improve in a key position we need upgraded.
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What difference does it make whether we pay money for a player or not? Would people be more excited if he had 3 years left at Hull and we had offered £4m for him?? It seems that way. A good player is a good player, I don't give a eff whether we spend money on him or not.
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Forza
27 Jun 2018, 01:47 PM
RodgersRevolution
27 Jun 2018, 01:21 PM
Forza
27 Jun 2018, 01:08 PM
In that 2015/16 Hull promotion season Odubajo played 53 games. More than Andy Robertson, Harry Maguire and players like Elmohamady, Diame, Livermore and Huddlestone. We would be unlikely to get sniffy about any of the aforementioned players. He was also younger than all of them, even Maguire.

Robertson had more goals and assists from the left back position (4 and 7), but Odubajo still had 4 assists.

He has literally not played a competitive game since. Now, there's a huge down side to that in terms of risk and the lad's career, but the return is potentially massive if he is fully rehabilitated, he's mentally strong and has a point to prove.

His clips also show him to have real pace.

Let's face it, some folk would be happier with it if he had a big shiny £3m fee attached.
People are disappointed as this guy is the board's answer to the glaring problem we've had at RB for about three years now. If we had a competent RB, I don't think many would have a problem - Moses would be back up, and could well force himself into the side.

We're essentially rolling the dice on whether or not we continue for another season with Lustig at RB.
Our answer to the problem in 2012 was Lustig. On a free from Rosenborg. On the whole it worked out not too bad.


Free transfers arent the issue here.
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27 Jun 2018, 02:03 PM
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27 Jun 2018, 01:47 PM
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27 Jun 2018, 01:21 PM

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Our answer to the problem in 2012 was Lustig. On a free from Rosenborg. On the whole it worked out not too bad.


Free transfers arent the issue here.
What is? His injury? Ever take a look at who's kept goal for us for four seasons?
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Maleys Spirit
27 Jun 2018, 01:45 PM
In around 30 years Celtic have paid over 2 million quid for a defender around 4 times,Stubbs,Simunovic,Scheidt and VVD. Apart from the fact that defenders are generally cheaper in the market it`s the Celtic way to buy cheap defenders or look for bargains in that area. You`d swear some guys on here just started noticing that recently.

The moral of the story is avoid defenders whose surnames begin with S if you are spending money. The rest will be a mixed bag as ever.
Joos.

And Loovens, Hooiveld and Hinkel were all around the £2m mark.
Edited by steeev, 27 Jun 2018, 02:12 PM.
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27 Jun 2018, 11:35 AM
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27 Jun 2018, 11:27 AM
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27 Jun 2018, 11:20 AM
A bit shampooe to stick around at a club injured for two years presumably being paid and treated then eff off on a Bosman at the first opportunity...
He's been fit since March, having been injured playing for Hull in a pre season friendly in July 2016.

Adkins has opted not to played him and has been holding out on getting him to sign a reduced deal, which he is perfectly within his rights to refuse.

His performance in the 15/16 Play Off Final helped get Hull to the Premier League, earning them tens of millions of pounds.

Hull will also have insurance in place.
Fair enough.

I know he's perfectly entitled to see his contract out, but our fans haven't exactly been sympathetic when it's happened here. Liam Miller, for example.
Depends on how we got injured as well?

Fell aff his skis or his motorbike or something then you might think he owes the club something. If he's got injured while training or playing (basically working for the club) then i don't think any loyalty is needed.
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27 Jun 2018, 01:21 PM
Forza
27 Jun 2018, 01:08 PM
In that 2015/16 Hull promotion season Odubajo played 53 games. More than Andy Robertson, Harry Maguire and players like Elmohamady, Diame, Livermore and Huddlestone. We would be unlikely to get sniffy about any of the aforementioned players. He was also younger than all of them, even Maguire.

Robertson had more goals and assists from the left back position (4 and 7), but Odubajo still had 4 assists.

He has literally not played a competitive game since. Now, there's a huge down side to that in terms of risk and the lad's career, but the return is potentially massive if he is fully rehabilitated, he's mentally strong and has a point to prove.

His clips also show him to have real pace.

Let's face it, some folk would be happier with it if he had a big shiny £3m fee attached.
People are disappointed as this guy is the board's answer to the glaring problem we've had at RB for about three years now. If we had a competent RB, I don't think many would have a problem - Moses would be back up, and could well force himself into the side.

We're essentially rolling the dice on whether or not we continue for another season with Lustig at RB.
Or maybe he's become available early in the window for free and we're having a look at him whilst other players aren't available.

If he's good you've won a watch. If not, no loss.
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the new agathe hopefully, couldn't gaf how much he costs if he's up to the job.
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This has all the hallmarks of doing someone a favour, either the lad himself or an agent.
The medical staff can only do so much, they can tell it he is fit at the moment. However they will be unable or unlikely to be able to state with real certainty anything about the future. Nor will they be able to accurately assess his mental attitude to playing at a high leve, they like everyone else will have to see how things pan out.
I think we all hope for the best but we really should have several alternatives at this stage.
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Positives - historically he has looked as if he could be of right quality for us
negative - he's been out for long time
Positive we are looking at right back
Positive - at least it is some news
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27 Jun 2018, 02:22 PM
Positives - historically he has looked as if he could be of right quality for us
negative - he's been out for long time
Positive we are looking at right back
Positive - at least it is some news
Like Jozo , can he play on a plastic pitch ? :suspect:
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