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| Summer '18 Transfer Window; all Celtic stuff in here | |
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| Topic Started: 21 May 2018, 11:41 AM (855,376 Views) | |
| Quiet Assasin | 27 Jun 2018, 11:35 AM Post #2961 |
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..for the maintenance of dinner tables for the children and the unemployed
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Fair enough. I know he's perfectly entitled to see his contract out, but our fans haven't exactly been sympathetic when it's happened here. Liam Miller, for example. |
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| Poggibonsi | 27 Jun 2018, 11:36 AM Post #2962 |
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The timing of him joining the squad probably coincides with fact that we need to wait until 1 July to do anything otherwise we are liable for a development fee (was similar situation for Ledley and Dembele previously). Might also restrict him from training too until next week. |
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| Goodbye Sevillian | 27 Jun 2018, 11:38 AM Post #2963 |
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Considering retirement
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I'm sure the boy will find a way to keep his fitness up over there, until July 1st comes around.
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| Pussyfoot | 27 Jun 2018, 11:50 AM Post #2964 |
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À la mode if you will
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Transfers are always interesting but in a few years time it will be intriguing to compare post John Park with his time at the club. Congerton didn't inspire confidence for me but he's clearly had big time experience, if sometimes negative. Hopefully it's been a learning curve and we will benefit from the best of him. |
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| corsica1968 | 27 Jun 2018, 11:58 AM Post #2965 |
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I saw Moses a bit when he was at Brentford too. I'd say that if he is 75% where he was then, he'll be best right back in Scotland by some distance. Between 2012 and 2016 he played over 200 league games and was first choice in a very strong U20 international squad. He was very highly-rated. If this guy hadn't been injured, he wouldn't be at Hull now and he'd be worth at least £20m in England. IF he is over his injuries and can prove to the medical team that there are no long-term worries then it is a no-brainer. We need a right back urgently and this guy was quality. If you want to compare him to Flanagan - Flanagan made 70 appearances in 8 years, got 4 youth international caps and one full international friendly cap under Taylor and Hodgson respectively who were giving them out like sweeties and, since suffering a serious knee injury, has done nothing. I don't understand why people seem to think we have to spend money to get quality. As others have said, sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't for a whole variety of reasons irrespective of fee. We have to face reality that Scotland is not an attractive environment for the quality of footballers that people are demanding. It is not even just as easy as rocking up with a big fee and a decent salary because our salaries are nothing compared to the EPL and are no more attractive than the English Championship. Our only selling points to quality footballers, frankly, are (limited) European football and a stepping stone to the EPL, but if they're already in that quality bracket they will be looking to head to the EPL (or other more attractive league) anyway. |
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| popeyed | 27 Jun 2018, 11:58 AM Post #2966 |
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Climbing walls while sittin' in a chair.
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Miller was developed here and offered a substantial wage increase. Yer man came through at Leyton Orient and has been pissed about by his manager of late. Hardly the same. |
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| Quiet Assasin | 27 Jun 2018, 12:01 PM Post #2967 |
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..for the maintenance of dinner tables for the children and the unemployed
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No two situations are exactly the same but one of the major gripes levelled at Miller was that we saw him through serious injuries and he left. I didn't know the manager had been messing him about. Just read he'd been injured for two years and offered a new deal. |
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| IainG | 27 Jun 2018, 12:02 PM Post #2968 |
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Ah but I was so much older then,I'm younger than that now
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That's it in a nutshell. |
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| suzieghirl10 | 27 Jun 2018, 12:05 PM Post #2969 |
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Everyone's Fantasy Football first pick
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No we wouldn't. He is a proven player, but has had injuries. He was pictured on the bench in training gear in Austria so it isn't just talks. |
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| dazabhoy67 | 27 Jun 2018, 12:14 PM Post #2970 |
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Off treasure hunting in Holland
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I hope the people in this thread, who have watched him at Brentford are correct and not just sugar coating, the guys ability. Sounds promising. |
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| Patrick_Bateman | 27 Jun 2018, 12:20 PM Post #2971 |
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Retired and now a BT Sports pundit
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I saw him play at Brentford and if he's half as good now as he was then, he'll be the greatest right back to ever have played football for Brentford, Hull and Celtic. |
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| Hairytoes | 27 Jun 2018, 12:20 PM Post #2972 |
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First-team captain
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Interesting that he's over in Austria, unable to take part - but that his contract ends in 4 days, meaning he'll be totally free Seeing both how highly rated & in form he was 2 years ago in a promotion winning championship side before injury, coupled with his apparent return to fitness - does show that he's worth a look. He's over there from the start & presumably he'll get games from next week. Puts us in a very good position to sign him & is an example of where we like to fish. Guys like Benyu & even Allan or Christie are similar signings. We'll not lose money & could unearth a gem, like Gordon for example. Boerighter still hurts & I doubt we'll take a risk on his fitness. |
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| Smiley | 27 Jun 2018, 12:22 PM Post #2973 |
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Off treasure hunting in Holland
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Aye because they're cursed and almost always sign diddies. We've tended to get the odd one right. |
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| Novelty_Bauble | 27 Jun 2018, 12:26 PM Post #2974 |
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Considering retirement
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After the panty-wetter comes the underwhelmed.... |
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| popeyed | 27 Jun 2018, 12:30 PM Post #2975 |
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Climbing walls while sittin' in a chair.
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He did an interview in January saying he was nearly ready link - he was then ready to play in March according to himself on Twitter
He was offered a new deal on reduced terms - as were the majority of out of contract Hull payers - McGregor went back to the huns, for example - you'd imagine they won't be paying very much given how skint they are. Dawson & Hernandez have knocked contracts back too. Think Hull have been out of the PL for too long to keep a squad like that going. Adkins seems a bit of a knob anaw. |
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| Sergeant Pluck | 27 Jun 2018, 12:37 PM Post #2976 |
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Is it about a bicycle?
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I saw him play a couple of times for Hull, including the play-off final against Wednesday at Wembley. Would be lying if I said I remember very much about him but I do recall him setting up a brilliant chance for Andy Robertson which he ballooned over the bar. |
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| Quiet Assasin | 27 Jun 2018, 12:46 PM Post #2977 |
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| Forza | 27 Jun 2018, 01:08 PM Post #2978 |
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Considering retirement
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In that 2015/16 Hull promotion season Odubajo played 53 games. More than Andy Robertson, Harry Maguire and players like Elmohamady, Diame, Livermore and Huddlestone. We would be unlikely to get sniffy about any of the aforementioned players. He was also younger than all of them, even Maguire. Robertson had more goals and assists from the left back position (4 and 7), but Odubajo still had 4 assists. He has literally not played a competitive game since. Now, there's a huge down side to that in terms of risk and the lad's career, but the return is potentially massive if he is fully rehabilitated, he's mentally strong and has a point to prove. His clips also show him to have real pace. Let's face it, some folk would be happier with it if he had a big shiny £3m fee attached. |
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| allthewine | 27 Jun 2018, 01:19 PM Post #2979 |
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Club Captain
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He hasn't played in two years. This is a huge risk & one we don't really need to take. |
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| RodgersRevolution | 27 Jun 2018, 01:21 PM Post #2980 |
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First team training
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People are disappointed as this guy is the board's answer to the glaring problem we've had at RB for about three years now. If we had a competent RB, I don't think many would have a problem - Moses would be back up, and could well force himself into the side. We're essentially rolling the dice on whether or not we continue for another season with Lustig at RB. |
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