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Summer '18 Transfer Window; all Celtic stuff in here
Topic Started: 21 May 2018, 11:41 AM (855,384 Views)
ChiliPepper
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26 Jun 2018, 02:54 PM
Hayes cost no where near a million quid.
How much was it then?

It was widely reported as over £1mill at the time. He was their best player, who'd just signed a new contract, and other teams had been sniffing around him.

It can't have been far short of £1mill or they'd just have kept him.
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BuckhindBhoy
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daleybhoy
26 Jun 2018, 03:52 PM
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26 Jun 2018, 12:43 PM
DKB
26 Jun 2018, 11:32 AM

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The issue is the signings that never looked like a good idea in the first place.

Most people accept that there's an element of luck with signings like Kouassi. Sometimes you get a Wanyama, sometimes you get an Amido Balde. That's the chance you take when you're trying to scoop up talented players before the rest of Europe notices them. Not that I'm writing Kouassi off at this stage.

But some of Rodgers' signings are hard to understand.

Paying over £1mill for Johnny Hayes in the summer when he'd been available for free 6 months earlier. A 30-year-old winger on a 3 year deal. Then we sign Roberts, making Hayes our 3rd choice right-mid. Everything about that scenario screamed waste of money.

Compper- Commons was pilloried for this at the time, but he said it looked like a mistake straight away and he was 100% right. A 32-year-old who'd hardly played the previous season, not ready to hit the ground running. Still has 2 years left on his deal. According to (IIRC) Remy on the BtM podcast, we signed him because Congerton wanted him at Hamburg 5 years ago. If that's true, it's just a bizarre signing.

Giving DeVries a new deal after we knew he wasn't good enough. It's hard to see any rationale for that other than Rodgers liking him personally.

Musonda- if the figures reported at the time were correct, we either spent, or were due to spend, 5mill Euros on him for an 18 month loan (I think that's fee + wages). And he never looked a player from the off. Kilmarnock away and St Johnstone at home he looked out of his depth. We've cancelled the deal and it's now regarded as no harm no foul, but he must have cost nearly £1mill in wages alone, plus whatever fee was involved, if any. Absolutely criminal.

Then there's Congerton himself. You could hardly name two clubs in Europe who've underperformed as badly as Hamburg and Sunderland in the last few years. Not saying that's Congerton's fault, but it's another one of those that just looks like a bad idea from the off. Hopefully I'm wrong.

Obviously there have been some great signings in there too. And Rodgers is a brilliant coach and manager. But his recruitment is easily the worst thing about his otherwise stellar time here so far.
Hayes - best player in league outside celtic season before we signed him. cheap wages and no real risk.

Compper- Experienced Bundesligue centre half and the kind of profile of a defender we all want to sign this summer. No idea if its injuries or something else that has kept him out but then neither does anyone else on here.

De Vries - he's a backup goalie who rodgers has worked with in the past. He obviously trusts him.

Musonda- One of the highest rated young players in England who had experience of 1st team football in a decent league. We all thought it was a great signing. It didnt work, these things happen.


Your far too sensible for in here mate.

You'll get to realise that a good few think they know better than a back to back treble winning manager. :thumbsup:
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Not a rumour but like the look of the Peru right-back. No idea who he plays for or if he's another Gamboa-type who plays better for his country though.
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Paul Allen
26 Jun 2018, 04:16 PM
Not a rumour but like the look of the Peru right-back. No idea who he plays for or if he's another Gamboa-type who plays better for his country though.
Looks hard as eff too
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Paul Allen
26 Jun 2018, 04:16 PM
Not a rumour but like the look of the Peru right-back. No idea who he plays for or if he's another Gamboa-type who plays better for his country though.
Had more clubs than Colin Montgomery and already not managed to make it in Europe and Turkey.
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daleybhoy
26 Jun 2018, 03:52 PM
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26 Jun 2018, 12:43 PM
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26 Jun 2018, 11:32 AM

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Eh no. Just because he played for a Bundesliga team didn't mean we all wanted to sign him. Many of us - myself included - hadn't a clue about him before he signed - he had to barely played for his club for some time. However I was concerned that he would ne ineligible for the Europa Cup.

Others have pointed out that since mid March he has been fit to play, but BR preferred a clearly unfit Boyata (at Ibrox), Ajer or Hendry and Simunovic before him. Time to bed in could be applied if he was a young player from further afield than Germany.

But a 32 year old with experience in Bundesliga shouldn't take that long to bed in. Folk on here with good info - not myself - have said that we should not be surprised if we do not see him in competitive action in a Celtic shirt again. If that is the case then our scouting dept has something to answer for.
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26 Jun 2018, 04:41 PM
Paul Allen
26 Jun 2018, 04:16 PM
Not a rumour but like the look of the Peru right-back. No idea who he plays for or if he's another Gamboa-type who plays better for his country though.
Had more clubs than Colin Montgomery and already not managed to make it in Europe and Turkey.
That sounds good then...but just think we could sell one million strips in Peru and the signing would pay for itself.


And I could run Lima CSC from my living room...
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Got to laugh at the folk writing Compper off having seen him play probably once :lol:
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26 Jun 2018, 04:55 PM
Got to laugh at the folk writing Compper off having seen him play probably once :lol:
He was brought in to give cover when we were really lacking in numbers and had loads of games to get through.

You don't need to have seen him play at all to conclude that he failed in that. Completely failed.
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26 Jun 2018, 05:07 PM
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26 Jun 2018, 04:55 PM
Got to laugh at the folk writing Compper off having seen him play probably once :lol:
He was brought in to give cover when we were really lacking in numbers and had loads of games to get through.

You don't need to have seen him play at all to conclude that he failed in that. Completely failed.
What's he like as a player?
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26 Jun 2018, 05:14 PM
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26 Jun 2018, 05:07 PM
He Cometh
26 Jun 2018, 04:55 PM
Got to laugh at the folk writing Compper off having seen him play probably once :lol:
He was brought in to give cover when we were really lacking in numbers and had loads of games to get through.

You don't need to have seen him play at all to conclude that he failed in that. Completely failed.
What's he like as a player?
Personally I think Brendan is refusing to even put him into the squad out of sheer spite.
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26 Jun 2018, 05:18 PM
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26 Jun 2018, 05:07 PM

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What's he like as a player?
Personally I think Brendan is refusing to even put him into the squad out of sheer spite.
Not really an answer is it?
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26 Jun 2018, 04:41 PM
Paul Allen
26 Jun 2018, 04:16 PM
Not a rumour but like the look of the Peru right-back. No idea who he plays for or if he's another Gamboa-type who plays better for his country though.
Had more clubs than Colin Montgomery and already not managed to make it in Europe and Turkey.
Brendan bound to snap him up then .
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26 Jun 2018, 05:14 PM
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26 Jun 2018, 05:07 PM
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26 Jun 2018, 04:55 PM
Got to laugh at the folk writing Compper off having seen him play probably once :lol:
He was brought in to give cover when we were really lacking in numbers and had loads of games to get through.

You don't need to have seen him play at all to conclude that he failed in that. Completely failed.
What's he like as a player?
Not as good as an unfit Boyata.
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26 Jun 2018, 05:54 PM
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26 Jun 2018, 05:07 PM

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What's he like as a player?
Not as good as an unfit Boyata.
Was Compper fit to play at the time?


Does Brendan start unfit players in big games?


Was Boyata passed fit and just had a nightmare?



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#Celtic will recieve at least £7m potentially rising to £8m for the transfer of Stuart Armstrong to #Southampton and have a 10% sell on clause over the entire transfer. #Armstrong has almost trebled his wage to £40k per week.

Dundee Utd are due 10% of anything over £1.8m
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26 Jun 2018, 05:57 PM
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26 Jun 2018, 05:54 PM
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Not as good as an unfit Boyata.
Was Compper fit to play at the time?


Does Brendan start unfit players in big games?


Was Boyata passed fit and just had a nightmare?



yes

yes

& no
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26 Jun 2018, 05:58 PM
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Corky Buczek
26 Jun 2018, 05:54 PM

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Was Compper fit to play at the time?


Does Brendan start unfit players in big games?


Was Boyata passed fit and just had a nightmare?



yes

yes

& no
Cheers Brendan :thumbsup:
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daleybhoy
26 Jun 2018, 03:46 PM
IainG
26 Jun 2018, 11:31 AM
Wonder what happened to the "blue ribbon" signing we used to eagerly anticipate every transfer window. Mind you, I don't think we ever got one.
Dembele year 1, Ntcham last year and Edouard this year.

Which is why I would rather we stopped spunking cash on the likes of Hayes, Hendry & McGinn to increase squad numbers and sign another player of their ability to improve the first 11.

Edited by Hail!Hail!, 26 Jun 2018, 06:10 PM.
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