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Summer '18 Transfer Window; all Celtic stuff in here
Topic Started: 21 May 2018, 11:41 AM (855,568 Views)
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23 May 2018, 01:16 PM
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23 May 2018, 01:12 PM
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23 May 2018, 10:55 AM

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Jimmy Kimmel to Chelsea?
James Corden to eff off? :pray:
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Shouldn't there be a transfer thread for the "NON Celtic stuff" too? ;)

To put all this arsenal goalkeeper scheidt at least
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I see Sam Byram's reportedly available for transfer from West Ham according to Sky Sports News. Very highly rated before his move when he was at Leeds and could be a decent solution to getting a long-term replacement for Lustig.
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23 May 2018, 10:57 AM
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23 May 2018, 10:46 AM
henrikmc2
22 May 2018, 01:14 PM
Any decent rumours? My source has moved continent, he’s been unreachable

So no more exclusives on McLeish then ??

I was spot on regarding McLeish

Yup, you were "spot on".

I bet he's glad he doesn't have to trek round South America for those two games.




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san meegs
23 May 2018, 02:21 PM
I see Sam Byram's reportedly available for transfer from West Ham according to Sky Sports News. Very highly rated before his move when he was at Leeds and could be a decent solution to getting a long-term replacement for Lustig.
Interesting.... Worth a look, decent young player with plenty of potential.
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23 May 2018, 01:59 PM
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23 May 2018, 01:44 PM
We def need another attacking, creative mid.
With Roberts going - and Musonda a non-event, if Rogic gets injured we've only got McGregor who can deputise in there.
For me McGregor is an excellent squad member - but - against a really stuffy defence, I don't think he has the skill set required to change a game by himself, in the event that Rogic is unavailable - a flair which Roberts also has.
He is very effective as part of the machine - but doesn't have that individual flair that at times is essential to break down a defence - and unlike Armstrong - at least it seems to me - doesn't get behind the defensive line all that often.
Could be wrong - but he isn't that kind of player - and this is something we def need in Scotland.
Paddy for me was the sort of player that will win you leagues up here.
Forrest has a skill set, as do the other attacking players we have - but Paddy's skillset is markedly different from his, and we need that replaced, imo.

Christie will be in the mix for the No 10 slot next season as well.

Also, Armstong will probably at least be around for the qualifiers.

I'm not adverse to bringing in better quality of course, but with 4 options for the position we're not short on cover unless we have a mental injury crisis.
Ok - granted Christie is in there.
I don't know much about him to be fair - how best would he be described as a player?
Attacking central mid that frequently breaks the defensive line?
Attacking central mid with exceptional vision to provide a killer defence breaking pass?
Winger type capable of beating a man?
A mix of all of these?
Or what?

Of course the other assumption I'm making is that Armstrong won't be around.

So from having as options:

Sinclair - Predictable - modern pacy winger/inside forward with few tricks to beat a man. Works best running into space, rather than creating space for himself by beating his man.
Armstrong - Predictable - box to box central mid - with an emphasis on being an additional central attacker when required - rather than a traditional wide player. Not really a defensive lock picker - but effective if the correct supply is available.
Roberts - Unpredictable - traditional mazy winger type with skills to beat players in one vs one/one vs two situation - not especially pacy - but able to work in tight spaces well and can create space for himself to finish or serve killer passes.
Forrest - Semi-predictable - modern pacy winger/inside forward - again works best running into space - but also makes very intelligent runs which enable him to create his own finishing opportunities. Less effective against stuffy defences where space can be limited.
Musonda - non event.
McGregor - Predictable - Flexible box to box mid with good interlinking between defence and attack, and moving ball on - but not hugely creative in final third. Again decent finisher if chance is available.
Rogic - Unpredictable - Effective mid in opposition half - adept at making chances for himself and others - unpredictable.

We go to:

Sinclair -Predictable
Forrest - Semi-predictable
Christie - dunno (but seems quite predictable based on what I've seen)
Morgan - dunno - but maybe a wee bit unpredictable - haven't seen enough - but is a huge unknown - and from what I've seen isn't very pacy.
Rogic - Unpredictable.

So - what I'm saying here is that yeah - we may have the numbers (though at various points in last 2 years, Forrest, Sinclair and Rogic have all been out for some periods of injury),
but in the event of Rogic and Forrest being injured at the same time, where's the creativity and invention in the final 3rd?

The big issue we've had in the season gone seems to be a lack of goals - goals can come from many sources - but being too predictable in approach seems to hamper your chances - and I don't think it's mere coincidence that long spells of injury to both Rogic and Roberts has hampered our ability to create and take chances.

So though we might have the numbers to cope with injuries to Forrest and Rogic - do we have the creativity to cope?
Probably - but I'd rather have that other lock picker in reserve.
For me, at the top end of the league - these are the guys that really make the difference between winning and not winning leagues - assuming the rest of the team are able to provide the foundations defensively.
Good defences ensure you don't lose games.
Good attacks win you games.
Imho good defences with very good attacks wins you leagues, playing the Celtic way.

How high should this type of players feature in a list of priorities?
Well given that Rogic has a world cup to go to, it may be a little tricky to work out how available (or effective) he'll be when he returns.
And given that Christie will likely not be a revelation, and that Morgan doesn't currently seem to be a world-beater - maybe this should be quite a high priority.



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BombJack
23 May 2018, 03:43 PM
randombloke
23 May 2018, 01:59 PM
BombJack
23 May 2018, 01:44 PM
We def need another attacking, creative mid.
With Roberts going - and Musonda a non-event, if Rogic gets injured we've only got McGregor who can deputise in there.
For me McGregor is an excellent squad member - but - against a really stuffy defence, I don't think he has the skill set required to change a game by himself, in the event that Rogic is unavailable - a flair which Roberts also has.
He is very effective as part of the machine - but doesn't have that individual flair that at times is essential to break down a defence - and unlike Armstrong - at least it seems to me - doesn't get behind the defensive line all that often.
Could be wrong - but he isn't that kind of player - and this is something we def need in Scotland.
Paddy for me was the sort of player that will win you leagues up here.
Forrest has a skill set, as do the other attacking players we have - but Paddy's skillset is markedly different from his, and we need that replaced, imo.

Christie will be in the mix for the No 10 slot next season as well.

Also, Armstong will probably at least be around for the qualifiers.

I'm not adverse to bringing in better quality of course, but with 4 options for the position we're not short on cover unless we have a mental injury crisis.
Ok - granted Christie is in there.
I don't know much about him to be fair - how best would he be described as a player?
Attacking central mid that frequently breaks the defensive line?
Attacking central mid with exceptional vision to provide a killer defence breaking pass?
Winger type capable of beating a man?
A mix of all of these?
Or what?

Of course the other assumption I'm making is that Armstrong won't be around.

So from having as options:

Sinclair - Predictable - modern pacy winger/inside forward with few tricks to beat a man. Works best running into space, rather than creating space for himself by beating his man.
Armstrong - Predictable - box to box central mid - with an emphasis on being an additional central attacker when required - rather than a traditional wide player. Not really a defensive lock picker - but effective if the correct supply is available.
Roberts - Unpredictable - traditional mazy winger type with skills to beat players in one vs one/one vs two situation - not especially pacy - but able to work in tight spaces well and can create space for himself to finish or serve killer passes.
Forrest - Semi-predictable - modern pacy winger/inside forward - again works best running into space - but also makes very intelligent runs which enable him to create his own finishing opportunities. Less effective against stuffy defences where space can be limited.
Musonda - non event.
McGregor - Predictable - Flexible box to box mid with good interlinking between defence and attack, and moving ball on - but not hugely creative in final third. Again decent finisher if chance is available.
Rogic - Unpredictable - Effective mid in opposition half - adept at making chances for himself and others - unpredictable.

We go to:

Sinclair -Predictable
Forrest - Semi-predictable
Christie - dunno (but seems quite predictable based on what I've seen)
Morgan - dunno - but maybe a wee bit unpredictable - haven't seen enough - but is a huge unknown - and from what I've seen isn't very pacy.
Rogic - Unpredictable.

So - what I'm saying here is that yeah - we may have the numbers (though at various points in last 2 years, Forrest, Sinclair and Rogic have all been out for some periods of injury),
but in the event of Rogic and Forrest being injured at the same time, where's the creativity and invention in the final 3rd?

The big issue we've had in the season gone seems to be a lack of goals - goals can come from many sources - but being too predictable in approach seems to hamper your chances - and I don't think it's mere coincidence that long spells of injury to both Rogic and Roberts has hampered our ability to create and take chances.

So though we might have the numbers to cope with injuries to Forrest and Rogic - do we have the creativity to cope?
Probably - but I'd rather have that other lock picker in reserve.
For me, at the top end of the league - these are the guys that really make the difference between winning and not winning leagues - assuming the rest of the team are able to provide the foundations defensively.
Good defences ensure you don't lose games.
Good attacks win you games.
Imho good defences with very good attacks wins you leagues, playing the Celtic way.

How high should this type of players feature in a list of priorities?
Well given that Rogic has a world cup to go to, it may be a little tricky to work out how available (or effective) he'll be when he returns.
And given that Christie will likely not be a revelation, and that Morgan doesn't currently seem to be a world-beater - maybe this should be quite a high priority.



Agree, Losing Roberts and Musonda as we have, we need to have someone else who can unlock a deep lying defence.

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Let's not forget about Johnny Hayes.
Edited by Shallow_man, 23 May 2018, 03:53 PM.
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Jonathan Bamba is someone we should be looking at, especially with our connections in France.
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Cardross Bhoy
23 May 2018, 02:03 PM
Why is it that in recent months, when you do a Google search for Celtic to get the latest news, articles from that bullshampoo website HITC come up? :comp:

Never used to happen.
Probably based on how many "stories" they've put out. They've flooded the web with shampooe.
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Well, it's a rumour...

https://www.kickoff.co.uk/85519/celtic-plot-sensational-move-for-impressive-serie-a-centre-back/
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23 May 2018, 05:32 PM
Well, it's a fairly decent one I'd say. Beats the old Lee Tomlin or Yann Kermogant linkage.
Edited by Pussyfoot, 23 May 2018, 06:25 PM.
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23 May 2018, 04:07 PM
Jonathan Bamba is someone we should be looking at, especially with our connections in France.
Think we were interested but put this one on ice for the moment. :ph43r:
Edited by nakasboots, 23 May 2018, 06:39 PM.
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This has us in for Reo Griffths of Spurs.....

http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2018/05/23/do-celtic-would-overshadow-odsonne-edouard-deal-by-landing-totte/

I guess with the law of averages, it was inevitable that one of Leigh's kids would be pulling in the hoops......
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Too early for Cochrane? defintely someone we should be monitoring.
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23 May 2018, 08:20 PM
Too early for Cochrane? defintely someone we should be monitoring.
Boy from Hearts?
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23 May 2018, 08:20 PM
Too early for Cochrane? defintely someone we should be monitoring.
He looks a good prospect, though a long way to go yet. We should be looking to picking up the best home grown prospects, providing we can find space for them in the squad.
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Too early for Cochrane? defintely someone we should be monitori
No chance he is pretty shampooe
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https://twitter.com/harrybradycu/status/999375755569192960?s=21

Hopefully we get some answers to what our ambitions are in the summer
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23 May 2018, 08:52 PM
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Too early for Cochrane? defintely someone we should be monitori
No chance he is pretty shampooe
Bit harsh on a 17 year old
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