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Summer '18 Transfer Window; all Celtic stuff in here
Topic Started: 21 May 2018, 11:41 AM (855,431 Views)
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20 Jun 2018, 09:22 PM

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Ralston is slow. That tends not to improve with age, especially with what we ask our full backs to do.
You can coach players to be faster :ph43r:
106 pages in?

This place has gone to the dogs.
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Leigh Griffiths is close to agreeing a new contract with Celtic.
"We are about 85 per cent done now. There’s just a couple of tweaks needed and then it will be done," the striker is quoted as saying by the Scottish Herald.
"The fact that they are even talking about a new contract gives me joy and delight that I am going to be here for basically the rest of my career."
Griffiths' current contract with Celtic runs until 2021.
I never agreed with him being here at all, but Griff has won me over. I like him drifting out wide and using his wicked delivery as well so fingers crossed he could replace Sinclair if his form continues in the same vein as last season.
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20 Jun 2018, 11:00 PM
Leigh Griffiths is close to agreeing a new contract with Celtic.
"We are about 85 per cent done now. There’s just a couple of tweaks needed and then it will be done," the striker is quoted as saying by the Scottish Herald.
"The fact that they are even talking about a new contract gives me joy and delight that I am going to be here for basically the rest of my career."
Griffiths' current contract with Celtic runs until 2021.
I never agreed with him being here at all, but Griff has won me over. I like him drifting out wide and using his wicked delivery as well so fingers crossed he could replace Sinclair if his form continues in the same vein as last season.
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20 Jun 2018, 11:18 PM
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20 Jun 2018, 06:33 PM
Any transfer rumours?
We are not offering Rivaldo a trial this time round.
I wasn't a fan of MON when he did this the first time round but I've got to say that I think Brendan is doing the right thing, as the guy is 46 and hasnt played pro level for years. :thumbsup:

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Former Celtic star Emilio Izaguirre snubs Hibs move and blames money troubles with agents

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I have options in the UK, Scotland mainly. Neil Lennon called me. He’s the manager of Hibs, but I told him I don’t want to play again in Scotland because of what I went through at Celtic and agents there.


“I had major problems with agents in Scotland who have threatened to sue me and asked me for money. I don’t want to go back to Scotland"
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Apparently Izaguirre's wife could not adapt to the Saudi culture.

Oh really?! :lol: :rubeyes:
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20 Jun 2018, 11:15 PM
playing a wide role in a front 3
I do like the sound of Eddy - Dembele - Griff as a front 3 option.

And no, I’m not suggesting that should be a starting line up but it is a sexual option to have available.
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20 Jun 2018, 09:34 PM
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20 Jun 2018, 08:35 PM
He got roasted against PSG (which is no shame) and the Dundee United manager is a crackpot who managed who made a mess of the job. Hardly irrefutable evidence he's a player.
The fact he was trusted to be put in against PSG was the point, one that you obviously missed.

Also do you think the Dundee Utd manager knows a bit about football?
After his early mistake(caught to high up the park) that we conceded from. I thought he recovered pretty well and done as well as could be expected of a 19yo up against Neymar.

I've seen far, far worse performances from seasoned pros.
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playing a wide role in a front 3
I do like the sound of Eddy - Dembele - Griff as a front 3 option.

And no, I’m not suggesting that should be a starting line up but it is a sexual option to have available.
I know, it would be good to se if we'll try that at some point.
Brendan likes his philosophy of the "team that finishes", so it leaves little room for subs I'd imagine by playing all 3 from the start.
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Nineteen year old Tony Ralston getting it in the neck after literally less than 600 minutes of competitive game time for the club. :ffs: :ffs:

Given the fact we currently have three right backs, and others that have played there, unless Gamboa is moved I sense there might be a good bit of angst and disappointment come 1 September on this thread.

I'm not saying I necessarily agree that it shouldn't be prioritised, but given what we have seen from the manager over the last two years I am far from convinced he thinks the same way.
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I'd happily take Izaguirre back if it were possible as the back up left back to Tierney. The wee man was really good in the Invincible season. A relatively low risk signing who knows how we play and was settled here. Would also mean we wouldn't lose our attacking edge if Tierney wasn't in the team, something a guy like say, Shinnie wouldn't provide us IMO.

Can't see it happening though :(
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21 Jun 2018, 11:00 AM
Nineteen year old Tony Ralston getting it in the neck after literally less than 600 minutes of competitive game time for the club. :ffs: :ffs:

Given the fact we currently have three right backs, and others that have played there, unless Gamboa is moved I sense there might be a good bit of angst and disappointment come 1 September on this thread.

I'm not saying I necessarily agree that it shouldn't be prioritised, but given what we have seen from the manager over the last two years I am far from convinced he thinks the same way.
What we’ve seen from the manager is a complete reluctance to play Gamboa (even in dead rubbers) and a decision to send Ralston on loan for six months even though we had no cover in that position (suggesting he doesn’t think Ralston is good enough - at least for the time being). So the whole “three right backs” chat is a bit of a misnomer. Hendry was essentially our second choice right back from January onwards. With Lustig tied up with international commitments - not to mention his form at times last year - it absolutely should be a priority position.
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21 Jun 2018, 11:00 AM
Nineteen year old Tony Ralston getting it in the neck after literally less than 600 minutes of competitive game time for the club. :ffs: :ffs:

Given the fact we currently have three right backs, and others that have played there, unless Gamboa is moved I sense there might be a good bit of angst and disappointment come 1 September on this thread.

I'm not saying I necessarily agree that it shouldn't be prioritised, but given what we have seen from the manager over the last two years I am far from convinced he thinks the same way.
What we’ve seen from the manager is a complete reluctance to play Gamboa (even in dead rubbers) and a decision to send Ralston on loan for six months even though we had no cover in that position (suggesting he doesn’t think Ralston is good enough - at least for the time being). So the whole “three right backs” chat is a bit of a misnomer. Hendry was essentially our second choice right back from January onwards. With Lustig tied up with international commitments - not to mention his form at times last year - it absolutely should be a priority position.
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21 Jun 2018, 11:12 AM
I'd happily take Izaguirre back if it were possible as the back up left back to Tierney. The wee man was really good in the Invincible season. A relatively low risk signing who knows how we play and was settled here. Would also mean we wouldn't lose our attacking edge if Tierney wasn't in the team, something a guy like say, Shinnie wouldn't provide us IMO.

Can't see it happening though :(
Naw cos he's feart to come back
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Nineteen year old Tony Ralston getting it in the neck after literally less than 600 minutes of competitive game time for the club. :ffs: :ffs:

Given the fact we currently have three right backs, and others that have played there, unless Gamboa is moved I sense there might be a good bit of angst and disappointment come 1 September on this thread.

I'm not saying I necessarily agree that it shouldn't be prioritised, but given what we have seen from the manager over the last two years I am far from convinced he thinks the same way.
What we’ve seen from the manager is a complete reluctance to play Gamboa (even in dead rubbers) and a decision to send Ralston on loan for six months even though we had no cover in that position (suggesting he doesn’t think Ralston is good enough - at least for the time being). So the whole “three right backs” chat is a bit of a misnomer. Hendry was essentially our second choice right back from January onwards. With Lustig tied up with international commitments - not to mention his form at times last year - it absolutely should be a priority position.
No, it's not a misnomer at all. We have three right backs. Two are internationalists, at the World Cup no less. As you correctly identified, Rodgers also had no problem playing Hendry there, and has bigged up his attributes (pace) to be able to play that position. You might not like that, but it doesn't stop the fact that this is what the manager has done. I'll judge him on actions and words, not what the ongoing feeling is in the cranky transfer thread over the right back spot.

Ralston came back from a short to medium term injury and was sent on loan to the biggest club outside of the top tier trying to get promotion in relatively pressurised circumstances. He did so with a brand shiny new contract in his back hipper. It's not like they shuffled him off to Annan Athletic for the last six months of his contract before he was binned out the door.

Lustig played when fit and has a year left on his deal. Between him, Gamboa, Ralston and Hendry, the outlay on right sided defenders at the club is not exactly inconsiderable. At least one would need to be away before we went looking for an alternative. All I am saying is, if that doesn't happen, I don't exactly see it as bolted on that we'll be getting a new right back.
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Nineteen year old Tony Ralston getting it in the neck after literally less than 600 minutes of competitive game time for the club. :ffs: :ffs:

Given the fact we currently have three right backs, and others that have played there, unless Gamboa is moved I sense there might be a good bit of angst and disappointment come 1 September on this thread.

I'm not saying I necessarily agree that it shouldn't be prioritised, but given what we have seen from the manager over the last two years I am far from convinced he thinks the same way.
What we’ve seen from the manager is a complete reluctance to play Gamboa (even in dead rubbers) and a decision to send Ralston on loan for six months even though we had no cover in that position (suggesting he doesn’t think Ralston is good enough - at least for the time being). So the whole “three right backs” chat is a bit of a misnomer. Hendry was essentially our second choice right back from January onwards. With Lustig tied up with international commitments - not to mention his form at times last year - it absolutely should be a priority position.
No, it's not a misnomer at all. We have three right backs. Two are internationalists, at the World Cup no less. As you correctly identified, Rodgers also had no problem playing Hendry there, and has bigged up his attributes (pace) to be able to play that position. You might not like that, but it doesn't stop the fact that this is what the manager has done. I'll judge him on actions and words, not what the ongoing feeling is in the cranky transfer thread over the right back spot.

Ralston came back from a short to medium term injury and was sent on loan to the biggest club outside of the top tier trying to get promotion in relatively pressurised circumstances. He did so with a brand shiny new contract in his back hipper. It's not like they shuffled him off to Annan Athletic for the last six months of his contract before he was binned out the door.

Lustig played when fit and has a year left on his deal. Between him, Gamboa, Ralston and Hendry, the outlay on right sided defenders at the club is not exactly inconsiderable. At least one would need to be away before we went looking for an alternative. All I am saying is, if that doesn't happen, I don't exactly see it as bolted on that we'll be getting a new right back.
Let's cut to the chase

They're all not good enough. Lustig was and isn't anymore.

Doesn't matter how many RB's we have on the books - if they're not good enough, then they're not good enough.

Simple as that.

Ralston, Hendry, Gamboa are all not good enough. Lustig can do a job but he's struggled and can barely run these days.

We need a RB - no doubt about it
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No, it's not a misnomer at all. We have three right backs. Two are internationalists, at the World Cup no less. As you correctly identified, Rodgers also had no problem playing Hendry there, and has bigged up his attributes (pace) to be able to play that position. You might not like that, but it doesn't stop the fact that this is what the manager has done. I'll judge him on actions and words, not what the ongoing feeling is in the cranky transfer thread over the right back spot.

Ralston came back from a short to medium term injury and was sent on loan to the biggest club outside of the top tier trying to get promotion in relatively pressurised circumstances. He did so with a brand shiny new contract in his back hipper. It's not like they shuffled him off to Annan Athletic for the last six months of his contract before he was binned out the door.

Lustig played when fit and has a year left on his deal. Between him, Gamboa, Ralston and Hendry, the outlay on right sided defenders at the club is not exactly inconsiderable. At least one would need to be away before we went looking for an alternative. All I am saying is, if that doesn't happen, I don't exactly see it as bolted on that we'll be getting a new right back.
Let's cut to the chase

They're all not good enough. Lustig was and isn't anymore.

Doesn't matter how many RB's we have on the books - if they're not good enough, then they're not good enough.

Simple as that.

Ralston, Hendry, Gamboa are all not good enough. Lustig can do a job but he's struggled and can barely run these days.

We need a RB - no doubt about it
Just because you and many others are willing a new right back to be a given, it does not mean it is uppermost in the mind of the manager and his staff.

Every post I see on this is exactly the same. None of them are good enough, we NEED one. It's not going to happen through the force of your, or anyone else's will. Instead, maybe look at the current circumstances, three right backs, all under contract, with another player who has played there bought not even six months ago. That's the reality.

As for saying 19 year old Ralston is not good enough? Have a word. The lad has played in a total of eight games for the club.
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Nineteen year old Tony Ralston getting it in the neck after literally less than 600 minutes of competitive game time for the club. :ffs: :ffs:

Given the fact we currently have three right backs, and others that have played there, unless Gamboa is moved I sense there might be a good bit of angst and disappointment come 1 September on this thread.

I'm not saying I necessarily agree that it shouldn't be prioritised, but given what we have seen from the manager over the last two years I am far from convinced he thinks the same way.
What we’ve seen from the manager is a complete reluctance to play Gamboa (even in dead rubbers) and a decision to send Ralston on loan for six months even though we had no cover in that position (suggesting he doesn’t think Ralston is good enough - at least for the time being). So the whole “three right backs” chat is a bit of a misnomer. Hendry was essentially our second choice right back from January onwards. With Lustig tied up with international commitments - not to mention his form at times last year - it absolutely should be a priority position.
No, it's not a misnomer at all. We have three right backs. Two are internationalists, at the World Cup no less. As you correctly identified, Rodgers also had no problem playing Hendry there, and has bigged up his attributes (pace) to be able to play that position. You might not like that, but it doesn't stop the fact that this is what the manager has done. I'll judge him on actions and words, not what the ongoing feeling is in the cranky transfer thread over the right back spot.

Ralston came back from a short to medium term injury and was sent on loan to the biggest club outside of the top tier trying to get promotion in relatively pressurised circumstances. He did so with a brand shiny new contract in his back hipper. It's not like they shuffled him off to Annan Athletic for the last six months of his contract before he was binned out the door.

Lustig played when fit and has a year left on his deal. Between him, Gamboa, Ralston and Hendry, the outlay on right sided defenders at the club is not exactly inconsiderable. At least one would need to be away before we went looking for an alternative. All I am saying is, if that doesn't happen, I don't exactly see it as bolted on that we'll be getting a new right back.
It’s a misnomer if the manager only thinks one of the three right backs is worthy of consideration. Personally, I haven’t seen enough of Ralston to offer much of an opinion of him but people whose views I respect tell me he’s nowhere near the level we need right now. Hendry at right back (or centre back for that matter!) is a disaster waiting to happen in a critical Champions League tie and I don’t think anyone knows when Lustig will be back from the World Cup - or what condition he’ll be in after a year without a rest.
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