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The All New Sevco Back in Yer Bin Thread; Taking out the trash
Topic Started: 29 Apr 2018, 04:24 PM (2,087,052 Views)
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2 May 2018, 07:45 PM

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Decent question. :thumbsup:

Short answer is I don't know. I'm just speculating and trying to figure out why Gerrard hasn't already knocked this rumour on its head as he did when he ruled out taking on an English Championship club. I think the answer could be that Liverpool see some value in developing players in the SPFL (not least, because they can now see at first hand that signing Virgil may have helped them to win the Champions League title again) and also because they have a strong negotiating hand to dictate their own terms to a beleaguered Sevco board.

Liverpool don't need to form any formal link with the Zombies' board or have any other connection to their business. All they need to do is have an unwritten understanding with Gerrard that they'll cover his back and recommend signings to him. Players from big clubs who have ambitions to get into management constantly cut their teeth at diddy clubs in the hope or expectation that one day they'll take over at the club they support. When Tommy Burns joined Kilmarnock I think we all knew that he was taking the first step towards one day becoming the Celtic boss. Bertie Auld never hid the fact that his managerial ambition was to take charge of Celtic. I'm sure they all had plenty of encouragement and support from some people at the club to prove themselves up to the job.

Apart from the boardroom mess, the Huns are hopeless on the football park as well. They need a entirely new team (apart from the goalkeeping position, probably.) Gerrard would have carte blanche to build from scratch. Imagine another Scottish club - say, Aberdeen or Hibs - had had a similar arrangement in the past few years with Manchester City and they were fielding players like Roberts and Denayer every week along with a few other loans and signings that City scouts had recommended. Imagine this club was being managed by a Guardiola protegé who was doing everything according to Pep's coaching manual. I reckon a team like that would put up a pretty good show in the SPFL. It would almost certainly be a better team than what Sevco have got at the moment.

For Liverpool to do something like this would only involve a slightly better organised version of what clubs, including us, already do. God knows how many players we've signed over the years only to farm them out to other clubs for the duration of most of their contract. It would actually be more efficient to send them all to one club in, say, Ireland or the English Championship, under the management of somebody like Stevie Clarke and see how they get on, if only there was a way to do this without falling foul of the rules. The Huns are possibly in a position where they're ripe for someone to exploit them this way without making a formal agreement. If Liverpool's board believe, rightly or wrongly, that they can manage an arrangement like this on a nod and a wink, they might be prepared to give it a try.

Or, alternatively, they might just keep doing whatever it is they do that makes their European record one of the very best in the business. :lol:
They certainly seem to get a lot of things right over the years even though - or perhaps because - they've not been afraid to fail from time to time by trying something different.



"... trying to figure out why Gerrard hasn't already knocked this rumour on its head..."

No mystery there. They haven't told him how much money he'll get.
Once he gets that information that's when he'll knock this matter on its head :lol:
This.
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2 May 2018, 09:05 PM
It’s all gone quiet on the Arfield front considering it was apparently a done deal. Also no further word on McGregor after that Hull press conference :ponder:
Are you suggesting Sevco make things up?
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2 May 2018, 10:15 PM
Really Chaps, I think the sheer stupidity of this Gerrard malarkey is blinding us into thinking there must be more than meets the eye, rather than seeing it as simply the latest in a string of half-baked schemes by a hopelessly incompetent board of directors who have arsed up every single aspect of their stewardship. And despite his circumspect, down to earth demeanour, Stevie G is still a rich-beyond-his-dreams football man who has lived his entire life in the football bubble; associating with other football bubble-dwellers, paid handsomely to jet around the world to talk football with Murphs and Ferds and Carra and Macca; then onto the training ground to play football and talk football to awestruck LFC youths, and it's all nice and bubbly in the football bubble.

Coming from humble stock in the one English city that really knows about anti Catholic, anti Irish sentiment, he will surely know the Huns are the Proddy Dogs and Celtic are the Cathy Cats :ffs: , but beyond that, Stevie G will be no more clued up about the reality of the Sevco Huns in 2018 than any of his equally out of touch, English, football bubble, media waffle-hound buddies. He's talking to the huns because the profile of the job strokes his ego; that being a Premiership leg-end will mean he could stroll up and boss it. There's no grand scheme here, no Machiavellian plotting: it's just another daft idea by a desperate bunch of hun chancers.


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tinytim81
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2 May 2018, 09:05 PM
It’s all gone quiet on the Arfield front considering it was apparently a done deal. Also no further word on McGregor after that Hull press conference :ponder:
Are you suggesting Sevco make things up?
Arfield,McGregor were just squirrels used to biggy them up before last weeks game.No desperate need now.Maybe later in the summer.
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aldo
2 May 2018, 10:15 PM
Really Chaps, I think the sheer stupidity of this Gerrard malarkey is blinding us into thinking there must be more than meets the eye, rather than seeing it as simply the latest in a string of half-baked schemes by a hopelessly incompetent board of directors who have arsed up every single aspect of their stewardship. And despite his circumspect, down to earth demeanour, Stevie G is still a rich-beyond-his-dreams football man who has lived his entire life in the football bubble; associating with other football bubble-dwellers, paid handsomely to jet around the world to talk football with Murphs and Ferds and Carra and Macca; then onto the training ground to play football and talk football to awestruck LFC youths, and it's all nice and bubbly in the football bubble.

Coming from humble stock in the one English city that really knows about anti Catholic, anti Irish sentiment, he will surely know the Huns are the Proddy Dogs and Celtic are the Cathy Cats :ffs: , but beyond that, Stevie G will be no more clued up about the reality of the Sevco Huns in 2018 than any of his equally out of touch, English, football bubble, media waffle-hound buddies. He's talking to the huns because the profile of the job strokes his ego; that being a Premiership leg-end will mean he could stroll up and boss it. There's no grand scheme here, no Machiavellian plotting: it's just another daft idea by a desperate bunch of hun chancers.


I hope so, I really do.
The trouble is that I don't trust those sneaky, devious, shameless bastards an inch.
When people like King are behind bars and there is no manifestation of any form of the Rangers franchise doing business in Scotland, I'll believe it's finally over. Until then, I'm wary of everything about them and anything connected to them.
Chill man. They're gubbed. Absolutely ruined and its only going to get worse.
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aldo
2 May 2018, 10:15 PM
Really Chaps, I think the sheer stupidity of this Gerrard malarkey is blinding us into thinking there must be more than meets the eye, rather than seeing it as simply the latest in a string of half-baked schemes by a hopelessly incompetent board of directors who have arsed up every single aspect of their stewardship. And despite his circumspect, down to earth demeanour, Stevie G is still a rich-beyond-his-dreams football man who has lived his entire life in the football bubble; associating with other football bubble-dwellers, paid handsomely to jet around the world to talk football with Murphs and Ferds and Carra and Macca; then onto the training ground to play football and talk football to awestruck LFC youths, and it's all nice and bubbly in the football bubble.

Coming from humble stock in the one English city that really knows about anti Catholic, anti Irish sentiment, he will surely know the Huns are the Proddy Dogs and Celtic are the Cathy Cats :ffs: , but beyond that, Stevie G will be no more clued up about the reality of the Sevco Huns in 2018 than any of his equally out of touch, English, football bubble, media waffle-hound buddies. He's talking to the huns because the profile of the job strokes his ego; that being a Premiership leg-end will mean he could stroll up and boss it. There's no grand scheme here, no Machiavellian plotting: it's just another daft idea by a desperate bunch of hun chancers.


Nail on head :clap:
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The DR and The Scottish Sun are running stories that Murray and Scott stepped aside to allow for others to join the board and bring investment in.

There is no explanation as to how this investment will come about or who from, just there will be investment and a transfer kitty.

So they have loans from other directors, a loan from Close Brothers, a dilapidated stadium but any money they get will be used to bring in players?

This will end well.
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The only person from down south who has said anything worth listening to is Roy Hodgson.An experienced,intelligent decent guy.

"Do your due diligence Stevie"

Wright,Shearer, good players but contribute nothing as pundits.
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The DR and The Scottish Sun are running stories that Murray and Scott stepped aside to allow for others to join the board and bring investment in.

There is no explanation as to how this investment will come about or who from, just there will be investment and a transfer kitty.

So they have loans from other directors, a loan from Close Brothers, a dilapidated stadium but any money they get will be used to bring in players?

This will end well.
There's no explanation why they have to stand aside to allow new "investors" on board either. They could have stayed. Load of shampooe
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3 May 2018, 07:10 AM
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3 May 2018, 06:50 AM
The Huns sense of entitlement makes them think that someone should just hand over money to their club. Like the previous incarnation they overlook small things like playing by the rules.
The fantasy that they are getting £50 million investment has them going mad. Gerrard will be able to sign a new team to stop 10. They forget that even if someone did have £50 million to invest who would be daft enough to get involved while King and co could fold sbouldered.
Anyone wanting to invest needs to buy King off, get a Nomad, get agreement from shareholders to dilute their holding, buy the shares to pay off the £20 million soft loans. They are desperate and gullible.
This is what annoys me most about the Hun. They can 'FTP', 'we are the people' and 'quintissentially Brithish' all they want but the fact remains they are the bare bones of a once formidable cheat. The constant rolling out of the 'new investment' line is what is sooooo annoying, it's not even just the absolute numbskulls who repeat it ad nauseum, it's supposedly educated folk in the press. Worst offender has to be BFDJ, the fat wink is always in the know about the coming huge investment on the horizon, what he forgets though, is that we turn the world now and the horizon is always going to be out of reach for them.
BFDJ is one of the thickest people ever shat into existence so it’s not too surprising he just spouts any old nonsense that is fed to him. There’s more intelligence and insight on the Rangers forums and they are almost totally populated by utter dafties.
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2 May 2018, 10:15 PM
Really Chaps, I think the sheer stupidity of this Gerrard malarkey is blinding us into thinking there must be more than meets the eye, rather than seeing it as simply the latest in a string of half-baked schemes by a hopelessly incompetent board of directors who have arsed up every single aspect of their stewardship. And despite his circumspect, down to earth demeanour, Stevie G is still a rich-beyond-his-dreams football man who has lived his entire life in the football bubble; associating with other football bubble-dwellers, paid handsomely to jet around the world to talk football with Murphs and Ferds and Carra and Macca; then onto the training ground to play football and talk football to awestruck LFC youths, and it's all nice and bubbly in the football bubble.

Coming from humble stock in the one English city that really knows about anti Catholic, anti Irish sentiment, he will surely know the Huns are the Proddy Dogs and Celtic are the Cathy Cats :ffs: , but beyond that, Stevie G will be no more clued up about the reality of the Sevco Huns in 2018 than any of his equally out of touch, English, football bubble, media waffle-hound buddies. He's talking to the huns because the profile of the job strokes his ego; that being a Premiership leg-end will mean he could stroll up and boss it. There's no grand scheme here, no Machiavellian plotting: it's just another daft idea by a desperate bunch of hun chancers.


:potm: ...think I'll go buy an Aero now :lol:
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Really Chaps, I think the sheer stupidity of this Gerrard malarkey is blinding us into thinking there must be more than meets the eye, rather than seeing it as simply the latest in a string of half-baked schemes by a hopelessly incompetent board of directors who have arsed up every single aspect of their stewardship. And despite his circumspect, down to earth demeanour, Stevie G is still a rich-beyond-his-dreams football man who has lived his entire life in the football bubble; associating with other football bubble-dwellers, paid handsomely to jet around the world to talk football with Murphs and Ferds and Carra and Macca; then onto the training ground to play football and talk football to awestruck LFC youths, and it's all nice and bubbly in the football bubble.

Coming from humble stock in the one English city that really knows about anti Catholic, anti Irish sentiment, he will surely know the Huns are the Proddy Dogs and Celtic are the Cathy Cats :ffs: , but beyond that, Stevie G will be no more clued up about the reality of the Sevco Huns in 2018 than any of his equally out of touch, English, football bubble, media waffle-hound buddies. He's talking to the huns because the profile of the job strokes his ego; that being a Premiership leg-end will mean he could stroll up and boss it. There's no grand scheme here, no Machiavellian plotting: it's just another daft idea by a desperate bunch of hun chancers.


Nail on head :clap:
Brendan Rodgers the needle wielding destroyer of English fluffy football bubbles :thumbsup:
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Thirteen years since they won one of them too :thumbsup:
You'd have to hope HC is right though :lol:
Can you imagine a youth team coach on a mission to give some of their best academy players (most of whom will never make it to the first team) regular game time...the satellite experiment would last 3 months.

Fingers crossed Gerrard takes this job.
Has anyone considered the “ WAG “ factor in the Gerrard saga? Of course you haven’t. :lol:
I bet Alex Gerrard is having a seizure at the thought of moving to Glasgow.

When Stevie turns them down, he’ll cite family reasons, weans, school, settled etc
Can you see Alex Gerrard nipping into Govan Asda in full wag mode, carrying her enormous 10 grand
Chanel bag ? :rubeyes: :lol:
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The DR and The Scottish Sun are running stories that Murray and Scott stepped aside to allow for others to join the board and bring investment in.

There is no explanation as to how this investment will come about or who from, just there will be investment and a transfer kitty.

So they have loans from other directors, a loan from Close Brothers, a dilapidated stadium but any money they get will be used to bring in players?

This will end well.
The same way Waghorn, O'Hallaran, McKay, Garner, Pena et al have made way for significatly better players over the past couple of years.
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2 May 2018, 11:22 PM
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2 May 2018, 03:49 PM
Forget Adam, McGregor etc.......Ill not be happy until they try and sign Daniel Cousin again
Is Mario Jardel still coming?
Aye - Gatuso is bringing him in as his No2
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You'd have to hope HC is right though :lol:
Can you imagine a youth team coach on a mission to give some of their best academy players (most of whom will never make it to the first team) regular game time...the satellite experiment would last 3 months.

Fingers crossed Gerrard takes this job.
Has anyone considered the “ WAG “ factor in the Gerrard saga? Of course you haven’t. :lol:
I bet Alex Gerrard is having a seizure at the thought of moving to Glasgow.

When Stevie turns them down, he’ll cite family reasons, weans, school, settled etc
Can you see Alex Gerrard nipping into Govan Asda in full wag mode, carrying her enormous 10 grand
Chanel bag ? :rubeyes: :lol:
Have you seen Liverpool?

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Has anyone considered the “ WAG “ factor in the Gerrard saga? Of course you haven’t. :lol:
I bet Alex Gerrard is having a seizure at the thought of moving to Glasgow.

When Stevie turns them down, he’ll cite family reasons, weans, school, settled etc
Can you see Alex Gerrard nipping into Govan Asda in full wag mode, carrying her enormous 10 grand
Chanel bag ? :rubeyes: :lol:
Have you seen Liverpool?

Thankfully not. :lol:


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Has anyone considered the “ WAG “ factor in the Gerrard saga? Of course you haven’t. :lol:
I bet Alex Gerrard is having a seizure at the thought of moving to Glasgow.

When Stevie turns them down, he’ll cite family reasons, weans, school, settled etc
Can you see Alex Gerrard nipping into Govan Asda in full wag mode, carrying her enormous 10 grand
Chanel bag ? :rubeyes: :lol:
Have you seen Liverpool?

She hasn't seen outside of this thread...

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i live in the three toons. the story doing the rounds here is that the worlds top wrastler Grado and public house tycoon Nacho Novo will be taking those directors positions.
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Have you seen Liverpool?

Thankfully not. :lol:


Glasgow is the best shopping city in the UK outside of London.

FWIW he wouldn't bring his family.
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