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The All New Sevco Back in Yer Bin Thread; Taking out the trash
Topic Started: 29 Apr 2018, 04:24 PM (2,086,502 Views)
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mojorising
8 Jul 2018, 01:16 PM
My Twitter timeline is awash with folk reporting scummy behaviour by the Orange Walk and the hangers on, only to be met with Huns stating "it didn't happen".
Only four arrests according to the media.
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8 Jul 2018, 05:21 PM
This is a massive own goal by Police Scotland, a totally avoidable PR disaster. Their initial response was appalling and indicative of a mindset that many suspect but that has been brought into the light. A lot of questions now need answered.
How I'd love for the Pope to comment on this.
Surely that would shine an international light on Scotland's Shame?
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8 Jul 2018, 01:28 PM
littlegmbhoy
8 Jul 2018, 01:16 PM
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7 Jul 2018, 10:19 PM
Liked the first part of your post...then said you were only jesting.....feck them.

Cancer on society.

SNP government REALLY want to get rid of sectarianism they would ban them from the streets and resolutely take them on but we all know they wont they would rather have a 16 year olds door kicked in two weeks after attending a football match where they sung a song.

Nonsense.

Yesterday we were inconvenienced with a glasgow festival saturday show cancelled, numerous traffic delays and roads closed policing costs through the roof not to mention there full ethos and songbook of hating people of my faith.

All over a battle 300 years ago on foreign soil to us slaughtering catholics...all in the nameof “kultur”...seriously..

Can you imagine marches about slaughtering jews or indeed muslims being allowed..no me neither.

Scotland 2018. Best wee country in the world.
So sectarianism in Scotland is the fault of the SNP. Nothing to do with British nationalism then? Or fact British nation state created a Protestant enclave in Catholic Ireland and continues to enforce British rule on foreign soil. It is the aggressive nuclear armed British nation state and its Crown that fuels the loyalism and sectarianism that blights Ireland and Scotland. Without their precious Britishness they would die out. So just remember that when you vote for parties that support the continuation of the British nation state and its sectarian statelet in the North of Ireland that you are effectively giving a big thumbs up to the British bigots and the Orange Order. The SNP could ban the bigots from the streets but so long as the British nation state exists the warped philosophy that fuels their bigotry and "superiority" will ensure that they are still spouting their sectarian and British nationalistic bile.
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8 Jul 2018, 03:44 PM
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8 Jul 2018, 01:28 PM
littlegmbhoy
8 Jul 2018, 01:16 PM
So sectarianism in Scotland is the fault of the SNP. Nothing to do with British nationalism then? Or fact British nation state created a Protestant enclave in Catholic Ireland and continues to enforce British rule on foreign soil. It is the aggressive nuclear armed British nation state and its Crown that fuels the loyalism and sectarianism that blights Ireland and Scotland. Without their precious Britishness they would die out. So just remember that when you vote for parties that support the continuation of the British nation state and its sectarian statelet in the North of Ireland that you are effectively giving a big thumbs up to the British bigots and the Orange Order. The SNP could ban the bigots from the streets but so long as the British nation state exists the warped philosophy that fuels their bigotry and "superiority" will ensure that they are still spouting their sectarian and British nationalistic bile.
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not quite sure if you are having a go but hey ho I’ll respond.

Firstly i dont vote as they are all as bad as each other. Secondly SNP has consistently stated that they will tackle secterianism in modern day Scotland.... yet this anti catholic nonsense continues so much so a priest is assualted at evening mass detailed by other posters.

The British imperialism chat is for another day and that’s coming ftom a person with a heavy republican background so much so my mums side are from forkhill, armagh.

I live in modern day Scotland where i wish to live a peaceful life and free of bigotry and trying to bring up a wee lassie. No one should have to suffer this outdated nonsense in modern day Scotland. SNP should tackle it firm and hard until they do it is hyperbole from them and they lose my respect 100% for that.

Im out after this post.

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given approval to march and often grants to assist them march are given by local authorities its to them you should spout your ire
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8 Jul 2018, 06:49 PM
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8 Jul 2018, 03:44 PM
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8 Jul 2018, 01:28 PM
:ponder:

not quite sure if you are having a go but hey ho I’ll respond.

Firstly i dont vote as they are all as bad as each other. Secondly SNP has consistently stated that they will tackle secterianism in modern day Scotland.... yet this anti catholic nonsense continues so much so a priest is assualted at evening mass detailed by other posters.

The British imperialism chat is for another day and that’s coming ftom a person with a heavy republican background so much so my mums side are from forkhill, armagh.

I live in modern day Scotland where i wish to live a peaceful life and free of bigotry and trying to bring up a wee lassie. No one should have to suffer this outdated nonsense in modern day Scotland. SNP should tackle it firm and hard until they do it is hyperbole from them and they lose my respect 100% for that.

Im out after this post.

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given approval to march and often grants to assist them march are given by local authorities its to them you should spout your ire
To be fair Glasgow City Council is run by the SNP. This was on their watch.

Parties of all colours have failed to control this pish and the SNP haven't either albeit they have a shorter record of failure than Labour. In Glasgow, it's their baby.
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6 Jul 2018, 02:57 PM
Just sent the following message to Hummel:

I am contacting youl to express my disgust at your decision to produce two strips for Rangers FC that demonstrate clear allusions to that club's disgraceful history of anti-Catholicism.
Rangers achieved notoriety in world football for their decades-long policy of not employing Catholics; a policy that only came to an end in 1989. However, sickening sectarian attitudes have continued to be displayed among its supporters and, indeed, club directors.
Much of this religious hatred aligns with the Orange Order, an avowedly anti-Catholic institution which stages marches in Scotland and Northern Ireland, mainly during July, to commemorate a 1690 battle that they associate with a belief in Protestant supremacy.
The two most visible emblems of the Orange Order are a sash and the colour orange. It is no coincidence that those two symbols now feature on Rangers strips in a flagrant attempt to cash in on religious bigotry.
I can well understand if Hummel were unaware of much of this. However, there is no doubt that Rangers FC and its directors were very, very aware of the inflammatory significance of these emblems.
Should production of these strips go ahead, Hummel will reveal itself as cynical exploiters of religious intolerance. In which case, you should be ashamed of yourselves.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orange_Order

Yours Sincerely,

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I hope that’s a pisstake ffs
:ffs: they can wear what they like. Why would anyone care so much about the Huns xxxxxxxxxxl choice of football shirts?
Ban bowler hats, brown brogues, black brogues, umbrellas, big drums, that will do for starters. 🚨hv
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8 Jul 2018, 03:44 PM
given approval to march and often grants to assist them march are given by local authorities its to them you should spout your ire
To be fair Glasgow City Council is run by the SNP. This was on their watch.

Parties of all colours have failed to control this pish and the SNP haven't either albeit they have a shorter record of failure than Labour. In Glasgow, it's their baby.
I don't understand why the SNP council haven't banned them either. I'll admit to not being sure of the law here though. Is it a 'freedom of expression' issue, or something? And thus knock-on effects for other marches? Given that practically zero of these knuckle-draggers will ever vote for the SNP, I find it odd that the party hasn't taken this on.
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8 Jul 2018, 07:14 PM
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8 Jul 2018, 06:49 PM
To be fair Glasgow City Council is run by the SNP. This was on their watch.

Parties of all colours have failed to control this pish and the SNP haven't either albeit they have a shorter record of failure than Labour. In Glasgow, it's their baby.
I don't understand why the SNP council haven't banned them either. I'll admit to not being sure of the law here though. Is it a 'freedom of expression' issue, or something? And thus knock-on effects for other marches? Given that practically zero of these knuckle-draggers will ever vote for the SNP, I find it odd that the party hasn't taken this on.
They'd be slaughtered by the media if they did without support from the electorate. This incident gives people the chance to raise a shampoostorm about it, so email your councillors.
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8 Jul 2018, 04:22 PM
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8 Jul 2018, 09:18 AM
Just read something about Huns having some kind of deal with Liverpool re first pick on their superstar kids.
That can't be true surely :ponder:
Where did you read it? And therein you night find your answer.
Teletext mate from....The sun :boik:
That's why i had doubts about the full quote etc.
Made it sound as if Klopp and Stevie had made it a selling point for him to join the klan. :cuckoo:

But you are correct should have known better lol

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8 Jul 2018, 07:19 PM
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I don't understand why the SNP council haven't banned them either. I'll admit to not being sure of the law here though. Is it a 'freedom of expression' issue, or something? And thus knock-on effects for other marches? Given that practically zero of these knuckle-draggers will ever vote for the SNP, I find it odd that the party hasn't taken this on.
They'd be slaughtered by the media if they did without support from the electorate. This incident gives people the chance to raise a shampoostorm about it, so email your councillors.
Yeah, perhaps. But then again, the media generally slaughter them day-to-day for a host of mainly trivial reasons anyway. As an SNP supporter, I think they should grow a pair on this issue. I' reckon most people will either be supportive or indifferent to a ban tbh.

Will contact my councillor :thumbsup:
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They'd be slaughtered by the media if they did without support from the electorate. This incident gives people the chance to raise a shampoostorm about it, so email your councillors.
Yeah, perhaps. But then again, the media generally slaughter them day-to-day for a host of mainly trivial reasons anyway. As an SNP supporter, I think they should grow a pair on this issue. I' reckon most people will either be supportive or indifferent to a ban tbh.

Will contact my councillor :thumbsup:
Don't disagree at all, SNP should go for these a-holes with malice. They ain't ever voting indy.
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They'd be slaughtered by the media if they did without support from the electorate. This incident gives people the chance to raise a shampoostorm about it, so email your councillors.
Yeah, perhaps. But then again, the media generally slaughter them day-to-day for a host of mainly trivial reasons anyway. As an SNP supporter, I think they should grow a pair on this issue. I' reckon most people will either be supportive or indifferent to a ban tbh.

Will contact my councillor :thumbsup:
Spot on. It’s surely a no lose for the SNP. If they did something about the sectarian marches the majority of decent folk would applaud them and the folk who were unhappy about it would never vote SNP anyway.
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The Order will simply blame one of the pavement pirates. Straight from the club / company playbook.
They are already doing just that :thumbsup:

Easy way to stop them dishing that excuse is to introduce strict liability covering all in attendance as per the rules in football these days. That and forcing them to pay for all policing/clean up etc and they’ll probably ban the marches themselves!
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8 Jul 2018, 06:49 PM
To be fair Glasgow City Council is run by the SNP. This was on their watch.

Parties of all colours have failed to control this pish and the SNP haven't either albeit they have a shorter record of failure than Labour. In Glasgow, it's their baby.
I don't understand why the SNP council haven't banned them either. I'll admit to not being sure of the law here though. Is it a 'freedom of expression' issue, or something? And thus knock-on effects for other marches? Given that practically zero of these knuckle-draggers will ever vote for the SNP, I find it odd that the party hasn't taken this on.
I think it certainly would be the concern about an impact on other marches.
And I have always thought that specific legislation would be required to eliminate these type of marches.
But make no mistake, they still wield significant influence.
As we have seen in past years, where people have criticised them, they revert to type and threats of violence frequently occur.
And they are pretty much known for their fondness for violence.
I get the impression that the Police are a little ‘reluctant’ to raise their head above the parapet.
If it were me, I would ban them, use water cannons, and jail the scum.
If only becuase I knew that there would not be one vote lost from them.
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Just read something about Huns having some kind of deal with Liverpool re first pick on their superstar kids.
That can't be true surely :ponder:
Where did you read it? And therein you night find your answer.
Teletext mate from....The sun :boik:
That's why i had doubts about the full quote etc.
Made it sound as if Klopp and Stevie had made it a selling point for him to join the klan. :cuckoo:

But you are correct should have known better lol

jimdiamond csc
Can’t remember where but I read something that said Liverpool are dubious about sending any players to us after seeing Roberts and Mussonda spending most of the season on the bench. They don’t see the point in loaning our players who won’t get game time
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It’s now being investigated as a hate crime.

A senior police source said: “I’m extremely surprised it took us so long to declare this as a hate crime and that no immediate action was taken.

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/2899749/priest-orange-order-st-alphonsus-tom-white-hate-crime/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
Probably as the reporting officer was PC Prod
It's possible that PC Prod's DNA is present in some to the spittle....
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8 Jul 2018, 05:46 PM
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8 Jul 2018, 01:16 PM
My Twitter timeline is awash with folk reporting scummy behaviour by the Orange Walk and the hangers on, only to be met with Huns stating "it didn't happen".
Only four arrests according to the media.
That'll be right. You'd have to go some to get arrested at an orange walk. All the main public bylaws go out the window. Drinking on the street: fine. Public Urination: fine. Sectarian abuse: mandatory. Littering: fine. You can do all these things right in front of plod face and they'll nod and doth their hat at you. I once had the misfortune to be caught in one of them in Bellshill, and watched as the police threatened to arrest a guy for complaining about them doing nothing about the tramps on the street throwing litter into his garden literally 10 foot away from two coppers.

In fact, I think the only way you could get arrested is if you dared to cross the road in front of them.
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Teletext mate from....The sun :boik:
That's why i had doubts about the full quote etc.
Made it sound as if Klopp and Stevie had made it a selling point for him to join the klan. :cuckoo:

But you are correct should have known better lol

jimdiamond csc
Can’t remember where but I read something that said Liverpool are dubious about sending any players to us after seeing Roberts and Mussonda spending most of the season on the bench. They don’t see the point in loaning our players who won’t get game time
I don’t think they would send any player they really want to develop to der hun. Gerrard or no Gerrard
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8 Jul 2018, 08:06 PM
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8 Jul 2018, 01:16 PM
My Twitter timeline is awash with folk reporting scummy behaviour by the Orange Walk and the hangers on, only to be met with Huns stating "it didn't happen".
Only four arrests according to the media.
That'll be right. You'd have to go some to get arrested at an orange walk. All the main public bylaws go out the window. Drinking on the street: fine. Public Urination: fine. Sectarian abuse: mandatory. Littering: fine. You can do all these things right in front of plod face and they'll nod and doth their hat at you. I once had the misfortune to be caught in one of them in Bellshill, and watched as the police threatened to arrest a guy for complaining about them doing nothing about the tramps on the street throwing litter into his garden literally 10 foot away from two coppers.

In fact, I think the only way you could get arrested is if you dared to cross the road in front of them.
I remember video of a senior plod , braid on cap, while policing one of the dignified expressions of kultchur say that no sectarian behaviour would be allowed ... What chance have you got
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