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The All New Sevco Back in Yer Bin Thread; Taking out the trash
Topic Started: 29 Apr 2018, 04:24 PM (2,086,509 Views)
Butters
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Celtic Joe
6 Jul 2018, 02:57 PM
Just sent the following message to Hummel:

I am contacting youl to express my disgust at your decision to produce two strips for Rangers FC that demonstrate clear allusions to that club's disgraceful history of anti-Catholicism.
Rangers achieved notoriety in world football for their decades-long policy of not employing Catholics; a policy that only came to an end in 1989. However, sickening sectarian attitudes have continued to be displayed among its supporters and, indeed, club directors.
Much of this religious hatred aligns with the Orange Order, an avowedly anti-Catholic institution which stages marches in Scotland and Northern Ireland, mainly during July, to commemorate a 1690 battle that they associate with a belief in Protestant supremacy.
The two most visible emblems of the Orange Order are a sash and the colour orange. It is no coincidence that those two symbols now feature on Rangers strips in a flagrant attempt to cash in on religious bigotry.
I can well understand if Hummel were unaware of much of this. However, there is no doubt that Rangers FC and its directors were very, very aware of the inflammatory significance of these emblems.
Should production of these strips go ahead, Hummel will reveal itself as cynical exploiters of religious intolerance. In which case, you should be ashamed of yourselves.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orange_Order

Yours Sincerely,

Celtic Joe
I hope that’s a pisstake ffs
:ffs: they can wear what they like. Why would anyone care so much about the Huns xxxxxxxxxxl choice of football shirts?
I always liked the Netherlands orange top but never thought about getting one because I thought people would assume I was a Hun & the connotations wearing an orange top seems to have in Scotland.

That said the Huns can pick any colour of strip they want, I don't know what's funnier the pettiness of the Huns launching an orange kit to pander to the worst element of their support or Celtic fans taking the bait.

Thy used to be able to win the league & rub our face in it, now the only thing they have is kit launches.
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tenerifetim
7 Jul 2018, 07:21 AM
Looks like someone in Oldco's "Walking Away !" from page 16 onwards lots of memorabilia being sold , maybe Walter is boosting his beleaguerd pension ? :cry:
https://www.wilsonsauctions.com/auctions/liquidations-disposals/AuctionEvent?saleCode=184913&location=Dalry&lotPageNo=17
"The Old Firm" Framed picture bearing signatures 358/1000. Ally McCoist Winner of the Golden Boot.

This one will be worth a fortune.Fat Sally never ever won The Golden Boot!!
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7 Jul 2018, 07:21 AM
Looks like someone in Oldco's "Walking Away !" from page 16 onwards lots of memorabilia being sold , maybe Walter is boosting his beleaguerd pension ? :cry:
https://www.wilsonsauctions.com/auctions/liquidations-disposals/AuctionEvent?saleCode=184913&location=Dalry&lotPageNo=17
"The Old Firm" Framed picture bearing signatures 358/1000. Ally McCoist Winner of the Golden Boot.

This one will be worth a fortune.Fat Sally never ever won The Golden Boot!!
I thought he won it twice in the early 90s?
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Green = Catholicism
Orange = Protestantism
White = Peace between the two

The Green white and gold flag was an attempt by various Catholic groups during the early part of the Free State to remove the Protestant symbolism from the flag.
Is that true? I've never, ever heard of any attempt to change colour orange to gold. Used to despise the flags we saw at games that were green, white and yellow … maybe that was just an attempt to align with Vatican City :ph43r:
It wasn't a very successful attempt. Mostly by conservative Fine Gael aligned Catholic groups. Not all yellow/gold flags were an intentional attempt though. Sometimes it was just cheap washed out orange flags or tight Offaly heurs who didn't want to buy two different flags.
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Well, fair play to Jabba and his crew. It was patently obvious the orange strip being hurriedly announced on Wednesday was a squirrel, and here we are three days later on the very thread that's supposed to be aware of these things, with three times as many posts about strips as there are about the budget-bursting possibilities of the delay in getting the retail deal sorted.
Secco are deep in crisis and we're talking about orange tops!!
Keep your eye on the ball, people.
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Butters
7 Jul 2018, 12:51 PM
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7 Jul 2018, 12:45 PM
tenerifetim
7 Jul 2018, 07:21 AM
Looks like someone in Oldco's "Walking Away !" from page 16 onwards lots of memorabilia being sold , maybe Walter is boosting his beleaguerd pension ? :cry:
https://www.wilsonsauctions.com/auctions/liquidations-disposals/AuctionEvent?saleCode=184913&location=Dalry&lotPageNo=17
"The Old Firm" Framed picture bearing signatures 358/1000. Ally McCoist Winner of the Golden Boot.

This one will be worth a fortune.Fat Sally never ever won The Golden Boot!!
I thought he won it twice in the early 90s?
L'Equipe, which awarded the Golden Boot, discontinued the award between 1991 and 1996 because of a dispute about the value of goals in different leagues. The Fat Gardener didn't win it so the Daily Record (iirc) decided to award it to him. No one recognises it but stupid huns. :lol:
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7 Jul 2018, 12:45 PM
I thought he won it twice in the early 90s?
L'Equipe, which awarded the Golden Boot, discontinued the award between 1991 and 1996 because of a dispute about the value of goals in different leagues. The Fat Gardener didn't win it so the Daily Record (iirc) decided to award it to him. No one recognises it but stupid huns. :lol:
I wonder if, in the so called civilised world, there is a society as mind bogglingly stupid as these.
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Is that true? I've never, ever heard of any attempt to change colour orange to gold. Used to despise the flags we saw at games that were green, white and yellow … maybe that was just an attempt to align with Vatican City :ph43r:
It wasn't a very successful attempt. Mostly by conservative Fine Gael aligned Catholic groups. Not all yellow/gold flags were an intentional attempt though. Sometimes it was just cheap washed out orange flags or tight Offaly heurs who didn't want to buy two different flags.
Thanks, Carnanreagh :thumbsup:

Never heard that before but I really enjoy pieces of info like that.

Also, being honest, I much prefer green, white and gold. However, to change it and try to remove the Protestant reference is not something I'd welcome at all.

So many powerful Protestant heroes from our past to revere - Wolfe Tone for starters.
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7 Jul 2018, 11:02 AM
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7 Jul 2018, 10:46 AM

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If this was merely about colour we could never be a patch on that mob :

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/this-britain/scottish-town-where-green-is-beyond-the-pale-981747.html
Aye but we know all about this already. It doesn't take an orange strip to confirm their raison d'etre. We know that the club/company profit from this pish as it permeates every essence of its being.

I take it the same people who are greeting about this, wrote letters of complaint about the red topped socks. The huns are to be scorned because they obsess about this crap, and ways of trumpeting it. I don't know what good it does anyone to obsess about their obsession. It only adds fuel to their fire.

I genuinely thought Celtic Joe's post was a wind up. I still think that.
That sounds like a 'do nothing' approach, and your entitled to your view.
I take a different view. I think when racism is given encouragement , then that should be challenged.
This I agree with
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Butters
7 Jul 2018, 12:51 PM
johnbhoy1958
7 Jul 2018, 12:45 PM
tenerifetim
7 Jul 2018, 07:21 AM
Looks like someone in Oldco's "Walking Away !" from page 16 onwards lots of memorabilia being sold , maybe Walter is boosting his beleaguerd pension ? :cry:
https://www.wilsonsauctions.com/auctions/liquidations-disposals/AuctionEvent?saleCode=184913&location=Dalry&lotPageNo=17
"The Old Firm" Framed picture bearing signatures 358/1000. Ally McCoist Winner of the Golden Boot.

This one will be worth a fortune.Fat Sally never ever won The Golden Boot!!
I thought he won it twice in the early 90s?
In typical RFC(IL) fashion they claimed he did.He couldn't because the competition didn't exist.Basically they were claiming that he would've won it if there was a competition so it means the same thing.AS usual though,like their "Most successful club in the world" piss,other folk laid claim to the award,or thought they should have won it,had it existed.

Edit.Just saw the replies above.
Edited by johnbhoy1958, 7 Jul 2018, 01:19 PM.
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It wasn't a very successful attempt. Mostly by conservative Fine Gael aligned Catholic groups. Not all yellow/gold flags were an intentional attempt though. Sometimes it was just cheap washed out orange flags or tight Offaly heurs who didn't want to buy two different flags.
Thanks, Carnanreagh :thumbsup:

Never heard that before but I really enjoy pieces of info like that.

Also, being honest, I much prefer green, white and gold. However, to change it and try to remove the Protestant reference is not something I'd welcome at all.

So many powerful Protestant heroes from our past to revere - Wolfe Tone for starters.
and Kenny Miller.
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7 Jul 2018, 12:34 PM

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It wasn't a very successful attempt. Mostly by conservative Fine Gael aligned Catholic groups. Not all yellow/gold flags were an intentional attempt though. Sometimes it was just cheap washed out orange flags or tight Offaly heurs who didn't want to buy two different flags.
Thanks, Carnanreagh :thumbsup:

Never heard that before but I really enjoy pieces of info like that.

Also, being honest, I much prefer green, white and gold. However, to change it and try to remove the Protestant reference is not something I'd welcome at all.

So many powerful Protestant heroes from our past to revere - Wolfe Tone for starters.
Most of the leaders of the United Irishmen were Protestant.
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killiemad
7 Jul 2018, 01:07 PM
Well, fair play to Jabba and his crew. It was patently obvious the orange strip being hurriedly announced on Wednesday was a squirrel, and here we are three days later on the very thread that's supposed to be aware of these things, with three times as many posts about strips as there are about the budget-bursting possibilities of the delay in getting the retail deal sorted.
Secco are deep in crisis and we're talking about orange tops!!
Keep your eye on the ball, people.
They c#nts financial implosions/meltdowns , imminent demise etc etc has been raked over the coals til we're blue in the face (!) on here and always will be . Mandaringate is new and thus more fun .
Edited by TheGloryYears, 7 Jul 2018, 01:26 PM.
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I see the DR have the story they SG will mow her first refusal on all liverpool youth players who might go to Scotland on loan

That’s why BR ‘failed’ to get Wilson and it’s directly because he was so impressed with what SG did with the under 18’s at Liverpool

Doomed! Record sport is in sevco overdrive today
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up on the roof!!

If anyone want to have further discussion about the Irish flag perhaps we could open a vexillology thread in General ;)




Think it’s now been fully explained in here :thumbsup:

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johnbhoy1958
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I thought he won it twice in the early 90s?
In typical RFC(IL) fashion they claimed he did.He couldn't because the competition didn't exist.Basically they were claiming that he would've won it if there was a competition so it means the same thing.AS usual though,like their "Most successful club in the world" piss,other folk laid claim to the award,or thought they should have won it,had it existed.

Edit.Just saw the replies above.
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Since this change, there has only been one winner who was not playing in one of the top five leagues (Henrik Larsson, 2000–01 Scottish Premier League).
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I thought it best not to reply to every comment, as people are entitled to their views.
However, my letter was most assuredly not a wind-up.
It was addressed to Hummel because this is a Danish company that is very proud of its inclusiveness and would probably be horrified to learn that they'd been scammed by a disreputable bunch of bigoted chancers into producing football tops that were a less-than-subtle nod to their own history of anti-Catholic bigotry and that of many of their supporters.
Can you imagine the reaction if the Texas Rangers baseball team trooped out with a Confederate flag on their tops?
Or the New York Rangers ice hockey team wore helmets shaped like white hoods?

This is about calling out a flagrant attempt to profitise sectarianism.
If people are OK with that, good for them.
I'll let you know if Hummel reply. :thumbsup:



(For the record, I love Jaffa cakes. Especially the orangey bit in the middle)
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7 Jul 2018, 01:36 PM
I thought it best not to reply to every comment, as people are entitled to their views.
However, my letter was most assuredly not a wind-up.
It was addressed to Hummel because this is a Danish company that is very proud of its inclusiveness and would probably be horrified to learn that they'd been scammed by a disreputable bunch of bigoted chancers into producing football tops that were a less-than-subtle nod to their own history of anti-Catholic bigotry and that of many of their supporters.
Can you imagine the reaction if the Texas Rangers baseball team trooped out with a Confederate flag on their tops?
Or the New York Rangers ice hockey team wore helmets shaped like white hoods?

This is about calling out a flagrant attempt to profitise sectarianism.
If people are OK with that, good for them.
I'll let you know if Hummel reply. :thumbsup:



(For the record, I love Jaffa cakes. Especially the orangey bit in the middle)
Well done :thumbsup:
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7 Jul 2018, 06:58 AM
The ‘sash’ one looks more like a packet of Embassy Regal fags.
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Knew it rang a bell with me. That was the brand my dad smoked.

A bit like Rangers, he died without making it to 55 :nono:
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7 Jul 2018, 11:37 AM
Normally, you can’t tell the bigot, racist or the homophobe just by looking at them. In some cases, even when they speak, they will appear near normal.

If they want to identify themselves by wearing a big bright identifying splash of colour, then we should be thankful to them for taking the effort out it for the rest of us.

Similarly, if they want to all get together, and march up and down pointlessly, just because they can, that would do the job for us too.
Yes and they can dress their offspring in the same significant colour and take them to the same marches where they proclaim their hatred for anyone who is not one of them and keep it going for a few more generations. Yes we should just press the ignore button.
what do you suggest we do, start jailing people for wearing orange tops?

The best thing to do is ignore, and if you cannot do that, then point and laugh
A lot of folk missing the point. I understand the Neanderthals who will buy and wear these. It is the intelligent people promoting this that should be taken to task. The people deemed fit and proper who are opportunists and rabble rousers as long as they profit.
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