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The All New Sevco Back in Yer Bin Thread; Taking out the trash
Topic Started: 29 Apr 2018, 04:24 PM (2,086,510 Views)
Asgardstreasure
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Espanol
7 Jul 2018, 08:47 AM
Just sent the following to Tesco

Dear Tesco

I am bringing to your attention items on your inventory that have sectarian overtones and pander to anti Catholic bigotry. The citrus fruit section is littered with offending items celebrating the orange order a sectarian organisation and should be removed also the children's party cakes have purple stars which again promote bigotry!

I trust you will take action immediately lest your company be tarred with a sectarian brush!

Yours A. Walloper
I think some posters are blindly or otherwise overlooking the point.
Commissioning an orange strip is a wink of approval to the thousands of racists who congregate at the bigot dome twenty odd games a season. They are a scourge on the cultural landscape of Scotland, an international embarrassment.
It is not their pro-British stance, or their support for Northern Ireland or their fawning adoration of anyone in an army uniform that causes offence. It is their loudly expressed hatred for a minority group which forms part of Scottish society. In a nutshell, they promote violence, intimidation and intolerance towards the Catholic community.
They are a cancer within the body politic of this country, an unfortunate legacy from the distant past. It is therefore a concern when this group is given any encouragement to believe that their views are in some way acceptable. That there is a place within aye brokes where racism can feel welcome.
This is not about the colour orange. That is just a detail in the story. This is about the significance of sevco's decision to order an orange top.

If this was merely about colour we could never be a patch on that mob :

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/this-britain/scottish-town-where-green-is-beyond-the-pale-981747.html
Edited by Asgardstreasure, 7 Jul 2018, 10:49 AM.
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7 Jul 2018, 09:28 AM

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Green = Catholicism
Orange = Protestantism
White = Peace between the two

The Green white and gold flag was an attempt by various Catholic groups during the early part of the Free State to remove the Protestant symbolism from the flag.
All in here;

https://www.taoiseach.gov.ie/eng/Historical_Information/The_National_Flag/The_National_Flag.pdf
thanks for that :)
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7 Jul 2018, 08:47 AM
Just sent the following to Tesco

Dear Tesco

I am bringing to your attention items on your inventory that have sectarian overtones and pander to anti Catholic bigotry. The citrus fruit section is littered with offending items celebrating the orange order a sectarian organisation and should be removed also the children's party cakes have purple stars which again promote bigotry!

I trust you will take action immediately lest your company be tarred with a sectarian brush!

Yours A. Walloper
I think some posters are blindly or otherwise overlooking the point.
Commissioning an orange strip is a wink of approval to the thousands of racists who congregate at the bigot dome twenty odd games a season. They are a scourge on the cultural landscape of Scotland, an international embarrassment.
It is not their pro-British stance, or their support for Northern Ireland or their fawning adoration of anyone in an army uniform that causes offence. It is their loudly expressed hatred for a minority group which forms part of Scottish society. In a nutshell, they promote violence, intimidation and intolerance towards the Catholic community.
They are a cancer within the body politic of this country, an unfortunate legacy from the distant past. It is therefore a concern when this group is given any encouragement to believe that their views are in some way acceptable. That there is a place within aye brokes where racism can feel welcome.
This is not about the colour orange. That is just a detail in the story. This is about the significance of sevco's decision to order an orange top.

If this was merely about colour we could never be a patch on that mob :

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/this-britain/scottish-town-where-green-is-beyond-the-pale-981747.html
Well said that man.
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Green = Catholicism
Orange = Protestantism
White = Peace between the two

The Green white and gold flag was an attempt by various Catholic groups during the early part of the Free State to remove the Protestant symbolism from the flag.
Seems like mythical pish to me.

The tricolour has been around for a lot longer than your time frame of reference has it not ?
I didn't know that, every day is a school day

http://www.1848tricolour.com/history-of-the-irish-flag/

https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/heritage/fifteen-facts-about-the-irish-flag-for-its-170th-birthday-1.2362893
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7 Jul 2018, 10:46 AM
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7 Jul 2018, 08:47 AM
Just sent the following to Tesco

Dear Tesco

I am bringing to your attention items on your inventory that have sectarian overtones and pander to anti Catholic bigotry. The citrus fruit section is littered with offending items celebrating the orange order a sectarian organisation and should be removed also the children's party cakes have purple stars which again promote bigotry!

I trust you will take action immediately lest your company be tarred with a sectarian brush!

Yours A. Walloper
I think some posters are blindly or otherwise overlooking the point.
Commissioning an orange strip is a wink of approval to the thousands of racists who congregate at the bigot dome twenty odd games a season. They are a scourge on the cultural landscape of Scotland, an international embarrassment.
It is not their pro-British stance, or their support for Northern Ireland or their fawning adoration of anyone in an army uniform that causes offence. It is their loudly expressed hatred for a minority group which forms part of Scottish society. In a nutshell, they promote violence, intimidation and intolerance towards the Catholic community.
They are a cancer within the body politic of this country, an unfortunate legacy from the distant past. It is therefore a concern when this group is given any encouragement to believe that their views are in some acceptable. That there is a place within aye brokes where racism can feel welcome.
This is not about the colour orange. That is just a detail in the story. This is about the significance of sevco's decision to order an orange top.

If this was merely about colour we could never be a patch on that mob :

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/this-britain/scottish-town-where-green-is-beyond-the-pale-981747.html
Aye but we know all about this already. It doesn't take an orange strip to confirm their raison d'etre. We know that the club/company profit from this pish as it permeates every essence of its being.

I take it the same people who are greeting about this, wrote letters of complaint about the red topped socks. The huns are to be scorned because they obsess about this crap, and ways of trumpeting it. I don't know what good it does anyone to obsess about their obsession. It only adds fuel to their fire.

I genuinely thought Celtic Joe's post was a wind up. I still think that.
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7 Jul 2018, 10:56 AM
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7 Jul 2018, 10:46 AM
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7 Jul 2018, 08:47 AM
Just sent the following to Tesco

Dear Tesco

I am bringing to your attention items on your inventory that have sectarian overtones and pander to anti Catholic bigotry. The citrus fruit section is littered with offending items celebrating the orange order a sectarian organisation and should be removed also the children's party cakes have purple stars which again promote bigotry!

I trust you will take action immediately lest your company be tarred with a sectarian brush!

Yours A. Walloper
I think some posters are blindly or otherwise overlooking the point.
Commissioning an orange strip is a wink of approval to the thousands of racists who congregate at the bigot dome twenty odd games a season. They are a scourge on the cultural landscape of Scotland, an international embarrassment.
It is not their pro-British stance, or their support for Northern Ireland or their fawning adoration of anyone in an army uniform that causes offence. It is their loudly expressed hatred for a minority group which forms part of Scottish society. In a nutshell, they promote violence, intimidation and intolerance towards the Catholic community.
They are a cancer within the body politic of this country, an unfortunate legacy from the distant past. It is therefore a concern when this group is given any encouragement to believe that their views are in some acceptable. That there is a place within aye brokes where racism can feel welcome.
This is not about the colour orange. That is just a detail in the story. This is about the significance of sevco's decision to order an orange top.

If this was merely about colour we could never be a patch on that mob :

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/this-britain/scottish-town-where-green-is-beyond-the-pale-981747.html
Aye but we know all about this already. It doesn't take an orange strip to confirm their raison d'etre. We know that the club/company profit from this pish as it permeates every essence of its being.

I take it the same people who are greeting about this, wrote letters of complaint about the red topped socks. The huns are to be scorned because they obsess about this crap, and ways of trumpeting it. I don't know what good it does anyone to obsess about their obsession. It only adds fuel to their fire.

I genuinely thought Celtic Joe's post was a wind up. I still think that.
That sounds like a 'do nothing' approach, and your entitled to your view.
I take a different view. I think when racism is given encouragement , then that should be challenged.
Edited by Asgardstreasure, 7 Jul 2018, 11:03 AM.
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7 Jul 2018, 08:14 AM
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Lets hope so, its not as if orange makes up one third of the flag that most celtic fans wave
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I was of the opinion that it was orange representing the occupied 6,green for Ireland & white in between them both, representing peace.
That's a new one on me , fanciful if nothing else.
its not fanciful. from our favourite source of all facts:-

Presented as a gift in 1848 to Thomas Francis Meagher from a small group of French women sympathetic to the Irish cause,it [the tricolour] was intended to symbolise the inclusion and hoped-for union between Roman Catholics and Protestants, the significance of the colours outlined by Meagher was, “The white in the centre signifies a lasting truce between Orange and Green and I trust that beneath its folds the hands of Irish Protestants and Irish Catholics may be clasped in generous and heroic brotherhood.”
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7 Jul 2018, 10:56 AM
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7 Jul 2018, 10:46 AM
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7 Jul 2018, 08:47 AM
Just sent the following to Tesco

Dear Tesco

I am bringing to your attention items on your inventory that have sectarian overtones and pander to anti Catholic bigotry. The citrus fruit section is littered with offending items celebrating the orange order a sectarian organisation and should be removed also the children's party cakes have purple stars which again promote bigotry!

I trust you will take action immediately lest your company be tarred with a sectarian brush!

Yours A. Walloper
I think some posters are blindly or otherwise overlooking the point.
Commissioning an orange strip is a wink of approval to the thousands of racists who congregate at the bigot dome twenty odd games a season. They are a scourge on the cultural landscape of Scotland, an international embarrassment.
It is not their pro-British stance, or their support for Northern Ireland or their fawning adoration of anyone in an army uniform that causes offence. It is their loudly expressed hatred for a minority group which forms part of Scottish society. In a nutshell, they promote violence, intimidation and intolerance towards the Catholic community.
They are a cancer within the body politic of this country, an unfortunate legacy from the distant past. It is therefore a concern when this group is given any encouragement to believe that their views are in some acceptable. That there is a place within aye brokes where racism can feel welcome.
This is not about the colour orange. That is just a detail in the story. This is about the significance of sevco's decision to order an orange top.

If this was merely about colour we could never be a patch on that mob :

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/this-britain/scottish-town-where-green-is-beyond-the-pale-981747.html
Aye but we know all about this already. It doesn't take an orange strip to confirm their raison d'etre. We know that the club/company profit from this pish as it permeates every essence of its being.

I take it the same people who are greeting about this, wrote letters of complaint about the red topped socks. The huns are to be scorned because they obsess about this crap, and ways of trumpeting it. I don't know what good it does anyone to obsess about their obsession. It only adds fuel to their fire.

I genuinely thought Celtic Joe's post was a wind up. I still think that.
No you didn't. And you don't. And the socks reference -- that's a nice wee straw man you managed to demolish with aplomb. Well done you. Their socks represent the colours of the Burgh of Govan -- it was moronic huns themselves who claimed it was to signify "up tae wur knees". Any Celtic fan who believed that nonsense wouldn't have the sense to write a letter. To whom would they write it anyway? Just asking.
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7 Jul 2018, 11:02 AM
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7 Jul 2018, 10:56 AM
Asgardstreasure
7 Jul 2018, 10:46 AM

Quoting limited to 3 levels deepsignificance of sevco's decision to order an orange top.

If this was merely about colour we could never be a patch on that mob :

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/this-britain/scottish-town-where-green-is-beyond-the-pale-981747.html
Aye but we know all about this already. It doesn't take an orange strip to confirm their raison d'etre. We know that the club/company profit from this pish as it permeates every essence of its being.

I take it the same people who are greeting about this, wrote letters of complaint about the red topped socks. The huns are to be scorned because they obsess about this crap, and ways of trumpeting it. I don't know what good it does anyone to obsess about their obsession. It only adds fuel to their fire.

I genuinely thought Celtic Joe's post was a wind up. I still think that.
That sounds like a 'do nothing' approach, and your entitled to your view.
I take a different view. I think when racism is given encouragement , then that should be challenged.
Then you should complain to your parliamentary representative that the rangers strip is racist.
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7 Jul 2018, 10:46 AM
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7 Jul 2018, 08:47 AM
Just sent the following to Tesco

Dear Tesco

I am bringing to your attention items on your inventory that have sectarian overtones and pander to anti Catholic bigotry. The citrus fruit section is littered with offending items celebrating the orange order a sectarian organisation and should be removed also the children's party cakes have purple stars which again promote bigotry!

I trust you will take action immediately lest your company be tarred with a sectarian brush!

Yours A. Walloper
I think some posters are blindly or otherwise overlooking the point.
Commissioning an orange strip is a wink of approval to the thousands of racists who congregate at the bigot dome twenty odd games a season. They are a scourge on the cultural landscape of Scotland, an international embarrassment.
It is not their pro-British stance, or their support for Northern Ireland or their fawning adoration of anyone in an army uniform that causes offence. It is their loudly expressed hatred for a minority group which forms part of Scottish society. In a nutshell, they promote violence, intimidation and intolerance towards the Catholic community.
They are a cancer within the body politic of this country, an unfortunate legacy from the distant past. It is therefore a concern when this group is given any encouragement to believe that their views are in some way acceptable. That there is a place within aye brokes where racism can feel welcome.
This is not about the colour orange. That is just a detail in the story. This is about the significance of sevco's decision to order an orange top.

If this was merely about colour we could never be a patch on that mob :

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/this-britain/scottish-town-where-green-is-beyond-the-pale-981747.html
As ever, you argue eloquently. The dilemma in these situations is how to react - engage or ignore? I think little headway would be gained in tackling them on this issue. I think the campaigns in other areas - resolution 12, Mike Ashley's court battles, the Takeover Panel etc are more likely to achieve their demise. Even if that happens however you won't excise the rotten core which will always exist.

Your view has equal validity.
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7 Jul 2018, 11:14 AM
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7 Jul 2018, 11:02 AM
Fly Pelican
7 Jul 2018, 10:56 AM

Quoting limited to 3 levels deepsignificance of sevco's decision to order an orange top.

If this was merely about colour we could never be a patch on that mob :

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/this-britain/scottish-town-where-green-is-beyond-the-pale-981747.html
That sounds like a 'do nothing' approach, and your entitled to your view.
I take a different view. I think when racism is given encouragement , then that should be challenged.
Then you should complain to your parliamentary representative that the rangers strip is racist.
Since that is not what I said I don't quite understand your recommendation.
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7 Jul 2018, 10:56 AM
Asgardstreasure
7 Jul 2018, 10:46 AM

Quoting limited to 3 levels deepsignificance of sevco's decision to order an orange top.

If this was merely about colour we could never be a patch on that mob :

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/this-britain/scottish-town-where-green-is-beyond-the-pale-981747.html
Aye but we know all about this already. It doesn't take an orange strip to confirm their raison d'etre. We know that the club/company profit from this pish as it permeates every essence of its being.

I take it the same people who are greeting about this, wrote letters of complaint about the red topped socks. The huns are to be scorned because they obsess about this crap, and ways of trumpeting it. I don't know what good it does anyone to obsess about their obsession. It only adds fuel to their fire.

I genuinely thought Celtic Joe's post was a wind up. I still think that.
No you didn't. And you don't. And the socks reference -- that's a nice wee straw man you managed to demolish with aplomb. Well done you. Their socks represent the colours of the Burgh of Govan -- it was moronic huns themselves who claimed it was to signify "up tae wur knees". Any Celtic fan who believed that nonsense wouldn't have the sense to write a letter. To whom would they write it anyway? Just asking.
To whoever made the socks. Same as this 'letter'.

There's plenty on this thread who have called it out.

And just who is applying the association here then - the huns or the inhabitants of this thread.

How the feck do you know what I think and do not think. Arrogant drivel, as per.
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7 Jul 2018, 11:23 AM
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Asgardstreasure
7 Jul 2018, 11:02 AM

Quoting limited to 3 levels deepsignificance of sevco's decision to order an orange top.

If this was merely about colour we could never be a patch on that mob :

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/this-britain/scottish-town-where-green-is-beyond-the-pale-981747.html
Then you should complain to your parliamentary representative that the rangers strip is racist.
Since that is not what I said I don't quite understand your recommendation.
Apologies then, we are clearly talking about different things.
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7 Jul 2018, 11:19 AM
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7 Jul 2018, 08:47 AM
Just sent the following to Tesco

Dear Tesco

I am bringing to your attention items on your inventory that have sectarian overtones and pander to anti Catholic bigotry. The citrus fruit section is littered with offending items celebrating the orange order a sectarian organisation and should be removed also the children's party cakes have purple stars which again promote bigotry!

I trust you will take action immediately lest your company be tarred with a sectarian brush!

Yours A. Walloper
I think some posters are blindly or otherwise overlooking the point.
Commissioning an orange strip is a wink of approval to the thousands of racists who congregate at the bigot dome twenty odd games a season. They are a scourge on the cultural landscape of Scotland, an international embarrassment.
It is not their pro-British stance, or their support for Northern Ireland or their fawning adoration of anyone in an army uniform that causes offence. It is their loudly expressed hatred for a minority group which forms part of Scottish society. In a nutshell, they promote violence, intimidation and intolerance towards the Catholic community.
They are a cancer within the body politic of this country, an unfortunate legacy from the distant past. It is therefore a concern when this group is given any encouragement to believe that their views are in some way acceptable. That there is a place within aye brokes where racism can feel welcome.
This is not about the colour orange. That is just a detail in the story. This is about the significance of sevco's decision to order an orange top.

If this was merely about colour we could never be a patch on that mob :

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/this-britain/scottish-town-where-green-is-beyond-the-pale-981747.html
As ever, you argue eloquently. The dilemma in these situations is how to react - engage or ignore? I think little headway would be gained in tackling them on this issue. I think the campaigns in other areas - resolution 12, Mike Ashley's court battles, the Takeover Panel etc are more likely to achieve their demise. Even if that happens however you won't excise the rotten core which will always exist.

Your view has equal validity.
I like the cut of your gib :thumbsup:
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We all (should) know the history. The "reason " right now is the board need cash.
It is the dickwads that wear them that show their TRUE colours. Those of a hate filled bigot, not a football fan. Eff them.
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Normally, you can’t tell the bigot, racist or the homophobe just by looking at them. In some cases, even when they speak, they will appear near normal.

If they want to identify themselves by wearing a big bright identifying splash of colour, then we should be thankful to them for taking the effort out it for the rest of us.

Similarly, if they want to all get together, and march up and down pointlessly, just because they can, that would do the job for us too.
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7 Jul 2018, 11:37 AM
Normally, you can’t tell the bigot, racist or the homophobe just by looking at them. In some cases, even when they speak, they will appear near normal.

If they want to identify themselves by wearing a big bright identifying splash of colour, then we should be thankful to them for taking the effort out it for the rest of us.

Similarly, if they want to all get together, and march up and down pointlessly, just because they can, that would do the job for us too.
Yes and they can dress their offspring in the same significant colour and take them to the same marches where they proclaim their hatred for anyone who is not one of them and keep it going for a few more generations. Yes we should just press the ignore button.
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7 Jul 2018, 12:20 PM
Achnotagain
7 Jul 2018, 11:37 AM
Normally, you can’t tell the bigot, racist or the homophobe just by looking at them. In some cases, even when they speak, they will appear near normal.

If they want to identify themselves by wearing a big bright identifying splash of colour, then we should be thankful to them for taking the effort out it for the rest of us.

Similarly, if they want to all get together, and march up and down pointlessly, just because they can, that would do the job for us too.
Yes and they can dress their offspring in the same significant colour and take them to the same marches where they proclaim their hatred for anyone who is not one of them and keep it going for a few more generations. Yes we should just press the ignore button.
what do you suggest we do, start jailing people for wearing orange tops?

The best thing to do is ignore, and if you cannot do that, then point and laugh
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That's a new one on me , fanciful if nothing else.
Green = Catholicism
Orange = Protestantism
White = Peace between the two

The Green white and gold flag was an attempt by various Catholic groups during the early part of the Free State to remove the Protestant symbolism from the flag.
Is that true? I've never, ever heard of any attempt to change colour orange to gold. Used to despise the flags we saw at games that were green, white and yellow … maybe that was just an attempt to align with Vatican City :ph43r:
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