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The All New Sevco Back in Yer Bin Thread; Taking out the trash
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Tam Haas
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8 Jun 2018, 04:56 PM
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When was the last statement they issued? Seems like forever.
I fair miss them.
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8 Jun 2018, 05:38 PM
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We're going to annihilate them again next season. These guys they're signing are no improvement, and I reckon Gerrard will be a really poor manager. 3rd or 4th place for them. I wonder what scheme King will come up with to rally them after this nonsense unravels.
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8 Jun 2018, 05:49 PM
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Chris Jack with an "exclusive" advert for Club1872 begging for donations. Ibrox investors Club 1872 ready to step up and pay in Rangers share issueExclusive by Christopher Jack @Chris_Jack89 Spoiler: click to toggle THE finishing line is in sight for Club 1872. As soon as the chequered flag is waved, the starting gun will be fired once again. In January, the organisation launched a bid to raise £1million to be invested in the next share issue at Ibrox. Now, they have just days left to meet their seven-figure target. Light Blues chairman Dave King confirmed several weeks ago that he hoped to bring in around £6million from a rights issue. As part of the process, loans from the likes of Douglas Park and George Letham will be converted to equity. Club 1872 have been invited to play their own part in proceedings and director Laura Fawkes hopes supporters make the most of the opportunity after Rangers set a deadline of next Thursday for the organisation to confirm how much they will invest this summer. “We think there are fans that believe they can take part in the share issue and they are waiting for it to be announced and are holding their money back to put in,” Fawkes told SportTimes. “That is not going to happen, so for us it is about getting the message out that if you want to help rebuild the club and protect it for future generations, Club 1872 is the only way you can do it at this moment in time. “There might be a handful, aside from the obvious investors, that get to participate. But for 99.9 per cent of the small shareholders, they won’t be able to participate. “We are delivering that message to people. We see a lot of people saying ‘I have got my own shares, so when is the issue because I am definitely participating’. That’s not the case. “Rangers won’t say ‘you are not getting to participate in this’, they will say ‘we have issued shares to the following people, at whatever price and raised X’. We have got to generate what we can over the next week and give Rangers the figure.” Members were contacted on Thursday afternoon informing them of the seven day timetable that is now in place as Rangers move towards a rights issue at the end of the month. Club 1872 currently have a 10.71 per cent stake in RIFC plc but their status as the second largest shareholder could come under threat as the financial landscape alters once again. Fawkes said: “We are sitting at around £960,000, but that includes project money. The poll that has gone out to members is asking whether we can use that for the share issue. “We don’t know what impact that this will have on the shareholding yet because this is a situation of how much money we can or want to put in. “If we turned round and said we had £2milllion, they could probably issue £2million worth of shares. The situation is quite difficult in that we can’t say to people ‘if we don’t have £1.3million we will get our shareholding diluted’ because we could put £1.3million in and still get diluted, or put £1million in and not get diluted. “We don’t know what other people are putting in. It is not like an open share offer where everyone buys their percentage pro rata number of shares, it is ‘we have a pot of shares and we are happy to give them to whoever wants them within this group of investors’. This is where we are at.” The money collected from members on a monthly basis is split between shares and projects pots as supporters choose where they want to see their cash directed. The deal that saw Club 1872 purchase half of the stake held by Mike Ashley took them above the 10 per cent threshold for the first time. But that stake could be diminished as fans prepare to see more of their hard-earned put into their club. Fawkes said: “There will certainly be a group of people on the internet who will make a big thing of it if the 10 per cent goes down or we drop from second to third or second to fourth. “A lot of people say they are signed up to Club 1872 because, for them, it is about protecting the club. They put their money in and they just want to know it is going to benefit the club and protect the club for future generations. “Particularly now, at a time when we are rebuilding at the club, people will want to see their money going straight in so they might not be too hung up on the 10 per cent.” Rangers have received almost £18million in soft loans from directors and wealthy supporters in recent years as significant operating losses have been offset. King has stressed that the Ibrox board are not seeking fresh cash from outwith the current investor pool as the Light Blues gear up for the new campaign under the guidance of Steven Gerrard. But Fawkes hopes Club 1872 can be in a position to play more of a part sooner rather than later as the group looks to continue to grow in the coming years. Fawkes said: “With the organisation pushing for a board place, obviously the higher the shareholding is the easier it is to justify that board place. It is the same for any investor. “We are aiming for two things – a board place and 25 per cent – and both of them can only be achieved by putting in more money for shares. “We are kind of missing an opportunity in the share issues because if we had £2million in the bank, we could be going and saying ‘we want more shares’. Instead, we are trying to raise as much as we can to get as many shares as we can. “This only works if a lot of people participate over a long period of time. We don’t want to be in the position of having a week to raise £50,000. We want to be in a position to know that, if another share issue comes along in a years’ time, we are going to have the funds to invest.” http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/sport/16277056.Ibrox_investors_Club_1872_ready_to_step_up_and_pay_in_Rangers_share_issue/ That saves them printing a prospectus anyway
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8 Jun 2018, 05:50 PM
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We're going to annihilate them again next season. These guys they're signing are no improvement, and I reckon Gerrard will be a really poor manager. 3rd or 4th place for them. I wonder what scheme King will come up with to rally them after this nonsense unravels. I'm keeping my powder dry
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Jim Tim
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8 Jun 2018, 05:50 PM
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- 8 Jun 2018, 03:33 PM
Chris Jack with an "exclusive" advert for Club1872 begging for donations. Ibrox investors Club 1872 ready to step up and pay in Rangers share issueExclusive by Christopher Jack @Chris_Jack89 Spoiler: click to toggle THE finishing line is in sight for Club 1872. As soon as the chequered flag is waved, the starting gun will be fired once again. In January, the organisation launched a bid to raise £1million to be invested in the next share issue at Ibrox. Now, they have just days left to meet their seven-figure target. Light Blues chairman Dave King confirmed several weeks ago that he hoped to bring in around £6million from a rights issue. As part of the process, loans from the likes of Douglas Park and George Letham will be converted to equity. Club 1872 have been invited to play their own part in proceedings and director Laura Fawkes hopes supporters make the most of the opportunity after Rangers set a deadline of next Thursday for the organisation to confirm how much they will invest this summer. “We think there are fans that believe they can take part in the share issue and they are waiting for it to be announced and are holding their money back to put in,” Fawkes told SportTimes. “That is not going to happen, so for us it is about getting the message out that if you want to help rebuild the club and protect it for future generations, Club 1872 is the only way you can do it at this moment in time. “There might be a handful, aside from the obvious investors, that get to participate. But for 99.9 per cent of the small shareholders, they won’t be able to participate. “We are delivering that message to people. We see a lot of people saying ‘I have got my own shares, so when is the issue because I am definitely participating’. That’s not the case. “Rangers won’t say ‘you are not getting to participate in this’, they will say ‘we have issued shares to the following people, at whatever price and raised X’. We have got to generate what we can over the next week and give Rangers the figure.” Members were contacted on Thursday afternoon informing them of the seven day timetable that is now in place as Rangers move towards a rights issue at the end of the month. Club 1872 currently have a 10.71 per cent stake in RIFC plc but their status as the second largest shareholder could come under threat as the financial landscape alters once again. Fawkes said: “We are sitting at around £960,000, but that includes project money. The poll that has gone out to members is asking whether we can use that for the share issue. “We don’t know what impact that this will have on the shareholding yet because this is a situation of how much money we can or want to put in. “If we turned round and said we had £2milllion, they could probably issue £2million worth of shares. The situation is quite difficult in that we can’t say to people ‘if we don’t have £1.3million we will get our shareholding diluted’ because we could put £1.3million in and still get diluted, or put £1million in and not get diluted. “We don’t know what other people are putting in. It is not like an open share offer where everyone buys their percentage pro rata number of shares, it is ‘we have a pot of shares and we are happy to give them to whoever wants them within this group of investors’. This is where we are at.” The money collected from members on a monthly basis is split between shares and projects pots as supporters choose where they want to see their cash directed. The deal that saw Club 1872 purchase half of the stake held by Mike Ashley took them above the 10 per cent threshold for the first time. But that stake could be diminished as fans prepare to see more of their hard-earned put into their club. Fawkes said: “There will certainly be a group of people on the internet who will make a big thing of it if the 10 per cent goes down or we drop from second to third or second to fourth. “A lot of people say they are signed up to Club 1872 because, for them, it is about protecting the club. They put their money in and they just want to know it is going to benefit the club and protect the club for future generations. “Particularly now, at a time when we are rebuilding at the club, people will want to see their money going straight in so they might not be too hung up on the 10 per cent.” Rangers have received almost £18million in soft loans from directors and wealthy supporters in recent years as significant operating losses have been offset. King has stressed that the Ibrox board are not seeking fresh cash from outwith the current investor pool as the Light Blues gear up for the new campaign under the guidance of Steven Gerrard. But Fawkes hopes Club 1872 can be in a position to play more of a part sooner rather than later as the group looks to continue to grow in the coming years. Fawkes said: “With the organisation pushing for a board place, obviously the higher the shareholding is the easier it is to justify that board place. It is the same for any investor. “We are aiming for two things – a board place and 25 per cent – and both of them can only be achieved by putting in more money for shares. “We are kind of missing an opportunity in the share issues because if we had £2million in the bank, we could be going and saying ‘we want more shares’. Instead, we are trying to raise as much as we can to get as many shares as we can. “This only works if a lot of people participate over a long period of time. We don’t want to be in the position of having a week to raise £50,000. We want to be in a position to know that, if another share issue comes along in a years’ time, we are going to have the funds to invest.” http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/sport/16277056.Ibrox_investors_Club_1872_ready_to_step_up_and_pay_in_Rangers_share_issue/
The stupid effers are voting on how much to spend on the shares they have not been told how much their shareholding will be diluted once they have hell mend them  They really are stupid. As the clumpany continually spend more than they generate in a futile bid to catch up with us they will repeatedly need share issues and loans that convert to equity to balance the books. The fans group/group's will just be in a cycle of buying shares, achieving a certain % ownership, having this diluted, having to buy more shares to maintain % holding, having this diluted again, having to buy more shares as a result, etc etc on and on. If it was us I wouldn't see the point in putting a penny in useless it was to support some kind of sustainable business plan and recovery. Chucking good money after bad is bonkers but you won't get the press writing it up that way.
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8 Jun 2018, 06:14 PM
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Chris Jack with an "exclusive" advert for Club1872 begging for donations. Ibrox investors Club 1872 ready to step up and pay in Rangers share issueExclusive by Christopher Jack @Chris_Jack89 Spoiler: click to toggle THE finishing line is in sight for Club 1872. As soon as the chequered flag is waved, the starting gun will be fired once again. In January, the organisation launched a bid to raise £1million to be invested in the next share issue at Ibrox. Now, they have just days left to meet their seven-figure target. Light Blues chairman Dave King confirmed several weeks ago that he hoped to bring in around £6million from a rights issue. As part of the process, loans from the likes of Douglas Park and George Letham will be converted to equity. Club 1872 have been invited to play their own part in proceedings and director Laura Fawkes hopes supporters make the most of the opportunity after Rangers set a deadline of next Thursday for the organisation to confirm how much they will invest this summer. “We think there are fans that believe they can take part in the share issue and they are waiting for it to be announced and are holding their money back to put in,” Fawkes told SportTimes. “That is not going to happen, so for us it is about getting the message out that if you want to help rebuild the club and protect it for future generations, Club 1872 is the only way you can do it at this moment in time. “There might be a handful, aside from the obvious investors, that get to participate. But for 99.9 per cent of the small shareholders, they won’t be able to participate. “We are delivering that message to people. We see a lot of people saying ‘I have got my own shares, so when is the issue because I am definitely participating’. That’s not the case. “Rangers won’t say ‘you are not getting to participate in this’, they will say ‘we have issued shares to the following people, at whatever price and raised X’. We have got to generate what we can over the next week and give Rangers the figure.” Members were contacted on Thursday afternoon informing them of the seven day timetable that is now in place as Rangers move towards a rights issue at the end of the month. Club 1872 currently have a 10.71 per cent stake in RIFC plc but their status as the second largest shareholder could come under threat as the financial landscape alters once again. Fawkes said: “We are sitting at around £960,000, but that includes project money. The poll that has gone out to members is asking whether we can use that for the share issue. “We don’t know what impact that this will have on the shareholding yet because this is a situation of how much money we can or want to put in. “If we turned round and said we had £2milllion, they could probably issue £2million worth of shares. The situation is quite difficult in that we can’t say to people ‘if we don’t have £1.3million we will get our shareholding diluted’ because we could put £1.3million in and still get diluted, or put £1million in and not get diluted. “We don’t know what other people are putting in. It is not like an open share offer where everyone buys their percentage pro rata number of shares, it is ‘we have a pot of shares and we are happy to give them to whoever wants them within this group of investors’. This is where we are at.” The money collected from members on a monthly basis is split between shares and projects pots as supporters choose where they want to see their cash directed. The deal that saw Club 1872 purchase half of the stake held by Mike Ashley took them above the 10 per cent threshold for the first time. But that stake could be diminished as fans prepare to see more of their hard-earned put into their club. Fawkes said: “There will certainly be a group of people on the internet who will make a big thing of it if the 10 per cent goes down or we drop from second to third or second to fourth. “A lot of people say they are signed up to Club 1872 because, for them, it is about protecting the club. They put their money in and they just want to know it is going to benefit the club and protect the club for future generations. “Particularly now, at a time when we are rebuilding at the club, people will want to see their money going straight in so they might not be too hung up on the 10 per cent.” Rangers have received almost £18million in soft loans from directors and wealthy supporters in recent years as significant operating losses have been offset. King has stressed that the Ibrox board are not seeking fresh cash from outwith the current investor pool as the Light Blues gear up for the new campaign under the guidance of Steven Gerrard. But Fawkes hopes Club 1872 can be in a position to play more of a part sooner rather than later as the group looks to continue to grow in the coming years. Fawkes said: “With the organisation pushing for a board place, obviously the higher the shareholding is the easier it is to justify that board place. It is the same for any investor. “We are aiming for two things – a board place and 25 per cent – and both of them can only be achieved by putting in more money for shares. “We are kind of missing an opportunity in the share issues because if we had £2million in the bank, we could be going and saying ‘we want more shares’. Instead, we are trying to raise as much as we can to get as many shares as we can. “This only works if a lot of people participate over a long period of time. We don’t want to be in the position of having a week to raise £50,000. We want to be in a position to know that, if another share issue comes along in a years’ time, we are going to have the funds to invest.” http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/sport/16277056.Ibrox_investors_Club_1872_ready_to_step_up_and_pay_in_Rangers_share_issue/
The stupid effers are voting on how much to spend on the shares they have not been told how much their shareholding will be diluted once they have hell mend them 
They really are stupid. As the clumpany continually spend more than they generate in a futile bid to catch up with us they will repeatedly need share issues and loans that convert to equity to balance the books. The fans group/group's will just be in a cycle of buying shares, achieving a certain % ownership, having this diluted, having to buy more shares to maintain % holding, having this diluted again, having to buy more shares as a result, etc etc on and on. If it was us I wouldn't see the point in putting a penny in useless it was to support some kind of sustainable business plan and recovery. Chucking good money after bad is bonkers but you won't get the press writing it up that way. A hun and his money are soon parted
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8 Jun 2018, 06:16 PM
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Chris Jack with an "exclusive" advert for Club1872 begging for donations. Ibrox investors Club 1872 ready to step up and pay in Rangers share issueExclusive by Christopher Jack @Chris_Jack89 Spoiler: click to toggle THE finishing line is in sight for Club 1872. As soon as the chequered flag is waved, the starting gun will be fired once again. In January, the organisation launched a bid to raise £1million to be invested in the next share issue at Ibrox. Now, they have just days left to meet their seven-figure target. Light Blues chairman Dave King confirmed several weeks ago that he hoped to bring in around £6million from a rights issue. As part of the process, loans from the likes of Douglas Park and George Letham will be converted to equity. Club 1872 have been invited to play their own part in proceedings and director Laura Fawkes hopes supporters make the most of the opportunity after Rangers set a deadline of next Thursday for the organisation to confirm how much they will invest this summer. “We think there are fans that believe they can take part in the share issue and they are waiting for it to be announced and are holding their money back to put in,” Fawkes told SportTimes. “That is not going to happen, so for us it is about getting the message out that if you want to help rebuild the club and protect it for future generations, Club 1872 is the only way you can do it at this moment in time. “There might be a handful, aside from the obvious investors, that get to participate. But for 99.9 per cent of the small shareholders, they won’t be able to participate. “We are delivering that message to people. We see a lot of people saying ‘I have got my own shares, so when is the issue because I am definitely participating’. That’s not the case. “Rangers won’t say ‘you are not getting to participate in this’, they will say ‘we have issued shares to the following people, at whatever price and raised X’. We have got to generate what we can over the next week and give Rangers the figure.” Members were contacted on Thursday afternoon informing them of the seven day timetable that is now in place as Rangers move towards a rights issue at the end of the month. Club 1872 currently have a 10.71 per cent stake in RIFC plc but their status as the second largest shareholder could come under threat as the financial landscape alters once again. Fawkes said: “We are sitting at around £960,000, but that includes project money. The poll that has gone out to members is asking whether we can use that for the share issue. “We don’t know what impact that this will have on the shareholding yet because this is a situation of how much money we can or want to put in. “If we turned round and said we had £2milllion, they could probably issue £2million worth of shares. The situation is quite difficult in that we can’t say to people ‘if we don’t have £1.3million we will get our shareholding diluted’ because we could put £1.3million in and still get diluted, or put £1million in and not get diluted. “We don’t know what other people are putting in. It is not like an open share offer where everyone buys their percentage pro rata number of shares, it is ‘we have a pot of shares and we are happy to give them to whoever wants them within this group of investors’. This is where we are at.” The money collected from members on a monthly basis is split between shares and projects pots as supporters choose where they want to see their cash directed. The deal that saw Club 1872 purchase half of the stake held by Mike Ashley took them above the 10 per cent threshold for the first time. But that stake could be diminished as fans prepare to see more of their hard-earned put into their club. Fawkes said: “There will certainly be a group of people on the internet who will make a big thing of it if the 10 per cent goes down or we drop from second to third or second to fourth. “A lot of people say they are signed up to Club 1872 because, for them, it is about protecting the club. They put their money in and they just want to know it is going to benefit the club and protect the club for future generations. “Particularly now, at a time when we are rebuilding at the club, people will want to see their money going straight in so they might not be too hung up on the 10 per cent.” Rangers have received almost £18million in soft loans from directors and wealthy supporters in recent years as significant operating losses have been offset. King has stressed that the Ibrox board are not seeking fresh cash from outwith the current investor pool as the Light Blues gear up for the new campaign under the guidance of Steven Gerrard. But Fawkes hopes Club 1872 can be in a position to play more of a part sooner rather than later as the group looks to continue to grow in the coming years. Fawkes said: “With the organisation pushing for a board place, obviously the higher the shareholding is the easier it is to justify that board place. It is the same for any investor. “We are aiming for two things – a board place and 25 per cent – and both of them can only be achieved by putting in more money for shares. “We are kind of missing an opportunity in the share issues because if we had £2million in the bank, we could be going and saying ‘we want more shares’. Instead, we are trying to raise as much as we can to get as many shares as we can. “This only works if a lot of people participate over a long period of time. We don’t want to be in the position of having a week to raise £50,000. We want to be in a position to know that, if another share issue comes along in a years’ time, we are going to have the funds to invest.” http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/sport/16277056.Ibrox_investors_Club_1872_ready_to_step_up_and_pay_in_Rangers_share_issue/
The stupid effers are voting on how much to spend on the shares they have not been told how much their shareholding will be diluted once they have hell mend them 
They really are stupid. As the clumpany continually spend more than they generate in a futile bid to catch up with us they will repeatedly need share issues and loans that convert to equity to balance the books. The fans group/group's will just be in a cycle of buying shares, achieving a certain % ownership, having this diluted, having to buy more shares to maintain % holding, having this diluted again, having to buy more shares as a result, etc etc on and on. If it was us I wouldn't see the point in putting a penny in useless it was to support some kind of sustainable business plan and recovery. Chucking good money after bad is bonkers but you won't get the press writing it up that way. Oi , Killjoy ! They have Rangersitis , the Stevie G Revolution is firing on all cylinders and the battle fever is on .It's fun to watch . Let them get on with it .
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Quoting limited to 3 levels deep Ibrox investors Club 1872 ready to step up and pay in Rangers share issueExclusive by Christopher Jack @Chris_Jack89 Spoiler: click to toggle THE finishing line is in sight for Club 1872. As soon as the chequered flag is waved, the starting gun will be fired once again. In January, the organisation launched a bid to raise £1million to be invested in the next share issue at Ibrox. Now, they have just days left to meet their seven-figure target. Light Blues chairman Dave King confirmed several weeks ago that he hoped to bring in around £6million from a rights issue. As part of the process, loans from the likes of Douglas Park and George Letham will be converted to equity. Club 1872 have been invited to play their own part in proceedings and director Laura Fawkes hopes supporters make the most of the opportunity after Rangers set a deadline of next Thursday for the organisation to confirm how much they will invest this summer. “We think there are fans that believe they can take part in the share issue and they are waiting for it to be announced and are holding their money back to put in,” Fawkes told SportTimes. “That is not going to happen, so for us it is about getting the message out that if you want to help rebuild the club and protect it for future generations, Club 1872 is the only way you can do it at this moment in time. “There might be a handful, aside from the obvious investors, that get to participate. But for 99.9 per cent of the small shareholders, they won’t be able to participate. “We are delivering that message to people. We see a lot of people saying ‘I have got my own shares, so when is the issue because I am definitely participating’. That’s not the case. “Rangers won’t say ‘you are not getting to participate in this’, they will say ‘we have issued shares to the following people, at whatever price and raised X’. We have got to generate what we can over the next week and give Rangers the figure.” Members were contacted on Thursday afternoon informing them of the seven day timetable that is now in place as Rangers move towards a rights issue at the end of the month. Club 1872 currently have a 10.71 per cent stake in RIFC plc but their status as the second largest shareholder could come under threat as the financial landscape alters once again. Fawkes said: “We are sitting at around £960,000, but that includes project money. The poll that has gone out to members is asking whether we can use that for the share issue. “We don’t know what impact that this will have on the shareholding yet because this is a situation of how much money we can or want to put in. “If we turned round and said we had £2milllion, they could probably issue £2million worth of shares. The situation is quite difficult in that we can’t say to people ‘if we don’t have £1.3million we will get our shareholding diluted’ because we could put £1.3million in and still get diluted, or put £1million in and not get diluted. “We don’t know what other people are putting in. It is not like an open share offer where everyone buys their percentage pro rata number of shares, it is ‘we have a pot of shares and we are happy to give them to whoever wants them within this group of investors’. This is where we are at.” The money collected from members on a monthly basis is split between shares and projects pots as supporters choose where they want to see their cash directed. The deal that saw Club 1872 purchase half of the stake held by Mike Ashley took them above the 10 per cent threshold for the first time. But that stake could be diminished as fans prepare to see more of their hard-earned put into their club. Fawkes said: “There will certainly be a group of people on the internet who will make a big thing of it if the 10 per cent goes down or we drop from second to third or second to fourth. “A lot of people say they are signed up to Club 1872 because, for them, it is about protecting the club. They put their money in and they just want to know it is going to benefit the club and protect the club for future generations. “Particularly now, at a time when we are rebuilding at the club, people will want to see their money going straight in so they might not be too hung up on the 10 per cent.” Rangers have received almost £18million in soft loans from directors and wealthy supporters in recent years as significant operating losses have been offset. King has stressed that the Ibrox board are not seeking fresh cash from outwith the current investor pool as the Light Blues gear up for the new campaign under the guidance of Steven Gerrard. But Fawkes hopes Club 1872 can be in a position to play more of a part sooner rather than later as the group looks to continue to grow in the coming years. Fawkes said: “With the organisation pushing for a board place, obviously the higher the shareholding is the easier it is to justify that board place. It is the same for any investor. “We are aiming for two things – a board place and 25 per cent – and both of them can only be achieved by putting in more money for shares. “We are kind of missing an opportunity in the share issues because if we had £2million in the bank, we could be going and saying ‘we want more shares’. Instead, we are trying to raise as much as we can to get as many shares as we can. “This only works if a lot of people participate over a long period of time. We don’t want to be in the position of having a week to raise £50,000. We want to be in a position to know that, if another share issue comes along in a years’ time, we are going to have the funds to invest.” http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/sport/16277056.Ibrox_investors_Club_1872_ready_to_step_up_and_pay_in_Rangers_share_issue/
They really are stupid. As the clumpany continually spend more than they generate in a futile bid to catch up with us they will repeatedly need share issues and loans that convert to equity to balance the books. The fans group/group's will just be in a cycle of buying shares, achieving a certain % ownership, having this diluted, having to buy more shares to maintain % holding, having this diluted again, having to buy more shares as a result, etc etc on and on. If it was us I wouldn't see the point in putting a penny in useless it was to support some kind of sustainable business plan and recovery. Chucking good money after bad is bonkers but you won't get the press writing it up that way.
A hun and his money are soon parted The thickest of the thick give us more and we will own less
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8 Jun 2018, 07:06 PM
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Why don't we just wait here for a while... see what happens.
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Gerro? effing Gerro? Get tae eff. Think's its just "Gerro Gerro Get Tae eff" Doesn't scan otherwise.
Also https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=gerro appropriate for the hun signing policy
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8 Jun 2018, 07:35 PM
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Yeah, what's up?
Their Ibrox glamour pre season friendlies are against Bury and Wigan. The Gerrard influence knows no bounds.  Glamour indeed. Even Tranmere are playing Wigan at home in a pre-season friendly.
They're also playing Liverpool at home and Dunfermline away ... So get it right fecking up them.
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8 Jun 2018, 08:18 PM
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Their Ibrox glamour pre season friendlies are against Bury and Wigan. The Gerrard influence knows no bounds. 
Glamour indeed. Even Tranmere are playing Wigan at home in a pre-season friendly. They're also playing Liverpool at home and Dunfermline away ... So get it right fecking up them. Who is playing Liverpool and Dunfermline? Sevco?
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8 Jun 2018, 09:02 PM
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Breaking rocks in the hot sun
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Glamour indeed. Even Tranmere are playing Wigan at home in a pre-season friendly. They're also playing Liverpool at home and Dunfermline away ... So get it right fecking up them.
Who is playing Liverpool and Dunfermline? Sevco? The original TRFC ... Tranmere Rovers.
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8 Jun 2018, 09:32 PM
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Chris Jack with an "exclusive" advert for Club1872 begging for donations. Ibrox investors Club 1872 ready to step up and pay in Rangers share issueExclusive by Christopher Jack @Chris_Jack89 Spoiler: click to toggle THE finishing line is in sight for Club 1872. As soon as the chequered flag is waved, the starting gun will be fired once again. In January, the organisation launched a bid to raise £1million to be invested in the next share issue at Ibrox. Now, they have just days left to meet their seven-figure target. Light Blues chairman Dave King confirmed several weeks ago that he hoped to bring in around £6million from a rights issue. As part of the process, loans from the likes of Douglas Park and George Letham will be converted to equity. Club 1872 have been invited to play their own part in proceedings and director Laura Fawkes hopes supporters make the most of the opportunity after Rangers set a deadline of next Thursday for the organisation to confirm how much they will invest this summer. “We think there are fans that believe they can take part in the share issue and they are waiting for it to be announced and are holding their money back to put in,” Fawkes told SportTimes. “That is not going to happen, so for us it is about getting the message out that if you want to help rebuild the club and protect it for future generations, Club 1872 is the only way you can do it at this moment in time. “There might be a handful, aside from the obvious investors, that get to participate. But for 99.9 per cent of the small shareholders, they won’t be able to participate. “We are delivering that message to people. We see a lot of people saying ‘I have got my own shares, so when is the issue because I am definitely participating’. That’s not the case. “Rangers won’t say ‘you are not getting to participate in this’, they will say ‘we have issued shares to the following people, at whatever price and raised X’. We have got to generate what we can over the next week and give Rangers the figure.” Members were contacted on Thursday afternoon informing them of the seven day timetable that is now in place as Rangers move towards a rights issue at the end of the month. Club 1872 currently have a 10.71 per cent stake in RIFC plc but their status as the second largest shareholder could come under threat as the financial landscape alters once again. Fawkes said: “We are sitting at around £960,000, but that includes project money. The poll that has gone out to members is asking whether we can use that for the share issue. “We don’t know what impact that this will have on the shareholding yet because this is a situation of how much money we can or want to put in. “If we turned round and said we had £2milllion, they could probably issue £2million worth of shares. The situation is quite difficult in that we can’t say to people ‘if we don’t have £1.3million we will get our shareholding diluted’ because we could put £1.3million in and still get diluted, or put £1million in and not get diluted. “We don’t know what other people are putting in. It is not like an open share offer where everyone buys their percentage pro rata number of shares, it is ‘we have a pot of shares and we are happy to give them to whoever wants them within this group of investors’. This is where we are at.” The money collected from members on a monthly basis is split between shares and projects pots as supporters choose where they want to see their cash directed. The deal that saw Club 1872 purchase half of the stake held by Mike Ashley took them above the 10 per cent threshold for the first time. But that stake could be diminished as fans prepare to see more of their hard-earned put into their club. Fawkes said: “There will certainly be a group of people on the internet who will make a big thing of it if the 10 per cent goes down or we drop from second to third or second to fourth. “A lot of people say they are signed up to Club 1872 because, for them, it is about protecting the club. They put their money in and they just want to know it is going to benefit the club and protect the club for future generations. “Particularly now, at a time when we are rebuilding at the club, people will want to see their money going straight in so they might not be too hung up on the 10 per cent.” Rangers have received almost £18million in soft loans from directors and wealthy supporters in recent years as significant operating losses have been offset. King has stressed that the Ibrox board are not seeking fresh cash from outwith the current investor pool as the Light Blues gear up for the new campaign under the guidance of Steven Gerrard. But Fawkes hopes Club 1872 can be in a position to play more of a part sooner rather than later as the group looks to continue to grow in the coming years. Fawkes said: “With the organisation pushing for a board place, obviously the higher the shareholding is the easier it is to justify that board place. It is the same for any investor. “We are aiming for two things – a board place and 25 per cent – and both of them can only be achieved by putting in more money for shares. “We are kind of missing an opportunity in the share issues because if we had £2million in the bank, we could be going and saying ‘we want more shares’. Instead, we are trying to raise as much as we can to get as many shares as we can. “This only works if a lot of people participate over a long period of time. We don’t want to be in the position of having a week to raise £50,000. We want to be in a position to know that, if another share issue comes along in a years’ time, we are going to have the funds to invest.” http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/sport/16277056.Ibrox_investors_Club_1872_ready_to_step_up_and_pay_in_Rangers_share_issue/
The stupid effers are voting on how much to spend on the shares they have not been told how much their shareholding will be diluted once they have hell mend them 
They really are stupid. As the clumpany continually spend more than they generate in a futile bid to catch up with us they will repeatedly need share issues and loans that convert to equity to balance the books. The fans group/group's will just be in a cycle of buying shares, achieving a certain % ownership, having this diluted, having to buy more shares to maintain % holding, having this diluted again, having to buy more shares as a result, etc etc on and on. If it was us I wouldn't see the point in putting a penny in useless it was to support some kind of sustainable business plan and recovery. Chucking good money after bad is bonkers but you won't get the press writing it up that way. Not only that but the share PRICE hasn’t even been announced! So not everyone is putting in They won’t tell anyone how much the shares cost or whether or not it will dilute their shareholding You’d have to be absolutely effing mad to give a penny of the funds to them
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8 Jun 2018, 09:38 PM
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PFA Scotland appeal Rangers fines for Lee Wallace and Kenny Miller
Hopefully gets nice and messy
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8 Jun 2018, 09:39 PM
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Who is playing Liverpool and Dunfermline? Sevco?
The original TRFC ... Tranmere Rovers. Seems to be an annual pre-season game
Did it not end up a bit tasty and someone got a red in one of the recent friendlies?
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8 Jun 2018, 10:14 PM
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Yeah, what's up?
Their Ibrox glamour pre season friendlies are against Bury and Wigan. The Gerrard influence knows no bounds.  Zombies V Bury 
Theres a t-shirt design there somewhere for such a fixture.
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8 Jun 2018, 10:36 PM
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8 Jun 2018, 11:28 PM
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up on the roof!!
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If Club1872 had anyone with half a brain on their committee or were getting proper advice they would be selling their shareholding to King when he has to offer at 20p and then waiting to buy the shares when they then come for sale at what will be a lower price
Or sabe the whole lot to invest in Rang3rs
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9 Jun 2018, 12:38 AM
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I'm new. Be gentle.
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If Club1872 had anyone with half a brain on their committee or were getting proper advice they would be selling their shareholding to King when he has to offer at 20p and then waiting to buy the shares when they then come for sale at what will be a lower price
Or sabe the whole lot to invest in Rang3rs Sshhhh - please, don’t give them any good advice.
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9 Jun 2018, 12:40 AM
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Chris Jack with an "exclusive" advert for Club1872 begging for donations. Ibrox investors Club 1872 ready to step up and pay in Rangers share issueExclusive by Christopher Jack @Chris_Jack89 Spoiler: click to toggle THE finishing line is in sight for Club 1872. As soon as the chequered flag is waved, the starting gun will be fired once again. In January, the organisation launched a bid to raise £1million to be invested in the next share issue at Ibrox. Now, they have just days left to meet their seven-figure target. Light Blues chairman Dave King confirmed several weeks ago that he hoped to bring in around £6million from a rights issue. As part of the process, loans from the likes of Douglas Park and George Letham will be converted to equity. Club 1872 have been invited to play their own part in proceedings and director Laura Fawkes hopes supporters make the most of the opportunity after Rangers set a deadline of next Thursday for the organisation to confirm how much they will invest this summer. “We think there are fans that believe they can take part in the share issue and they are waiting for it to be announced and are holding their money back to put in,” Fawkes told SportTimes. “That is not going to happen, so for us it is about getting the message out that if you want to help rebuild the club and protect it for future generations, Club 1872 is the only way you can do it at this moment in time. “There might be a handful, aside from the obvious investors, that get to participate. But for 99.9 per cent of the small shareholders, they won’t be able to participate. “We are delivering that message to people. We see a lot of people saying ‘I have got my own shares, so when is the issue because I am definitely participating’. That’s not the case. “Rangers won’t say ‘you are not getting to participate in this’, they will say ‘we have issued shares to the following people, at whatever price and raised X’. We have got to generate what we can over the next week and give Rangers the figure.” Members were contacted on Thursday afternoon informing them of the seven day timetable that is now in place as Rangers move towards a rights issue at the end of the month. Club 1872 currently have a 10.71 per cent stake in RIFC plc but their status as the second largest shareholder could come under threat as the financial landscape alters once again. Fawkes said: “We are sitting at around £960,000, but that includes project money. The poll that has gone out to members is asking whether we can use that for the share issue. “We don’t know what impact that this will have on the shareholding yet because this is a situation of how much money we can or want to put in. “If we turned round and said we had £2milllion, they could probably issue £2million worth of shares. The situation is quite difficult in that we can’t say to people ‘if we don’t have £1.3million we will get our shareholding diluted’ because we could put £1.3million in and still get diluted, or put £1million in and not get diluted. “We don’t know what other people are putting in. It is not like an open share offer where everyone buys their percentage pro rata number of shares, it is ‘we have a pot of shares and we are happy to give them to whoever wants them within this group of investors’. This is where we are at.” The money collected from members on a monthly basis is split between shares and projects pots as supporters choose where they want to see their cash directed. The deal that saw Club 1872 purchase half of the stake held by Mike Ashley took them above the 10 per cent threshold for the first time. But that stake could be diminished as fans prepare to see more of their hard-earned put into their club. Fawkes said: “There will certainly be a group of people on the internet who will make a big thing of it if the 10 per cent goes down or we drop from second to third or second to fourth. “A lot of people say they are signed up to Club 1872 because, for them, it is about protecting the club. They put their money in and they just want to know it is going to benefit the club and protect the club for future generations. “Particularly now, at a time when we are rebuilding at the club, people will want to see their money going straight in so they might not be too hung up on the 10 per cent.” Rangers have received almost £18million in soft loans from directors and wealthy supporters in recent years as significant operating losses have been offset. King has stressed that the Ibrox board are not seeking fresh cash from outwith the current investor pool as the Light Blues gear up for the new campaign under the guidance of Steven Gerrard. But Fawkes hopes Club 1872 can be in a position to play more of a part sooner rather than later as the group looks to continue to grow in the coming years. Fawkes said: “With the organisation pushing for a board place, obviously the higher the shareholding is the easier it is to justify that board place. It is the same for any investor. “We are aiming for two things – a board place and 25 per cent – and both of them can only be achieved by putting in more money for shares. “We are kind of missing an opportunity in the share issues because if we had £2million in the bank, we could be going and saying ‘we want more shares’. Instead, we are trying to raise as much as we can to get as many shares as we can. “This only works if a lot of people participate over a long period of time. We don’t want to be in the position of having a week to raise £50,000. We want to be in a position to know that, if another share issue comes along in a years’ time, we are going to have the funds to invest.” http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/sport/16277056.Ibrox_investors_Club_1872_ready_to_step_up_and_pay_in_Rangers_share_issue/
That saves them printing a prospectus anyway  Jeeeeeez is that meant to be an ad for it. Insane.
Translation
"yeah yeah of course we still want to save the club but these internet bampots don't get it...Stevie G.... eff the shares lets effing spunk the cash. Dave King's sound. Who gives a eff... think of the cargo we could buy"
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