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The All New Sevco Back in Yer Bin Thread; Taking out the trash
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Topic Started: 29 Apr 2018, 04:24 PM (2,086,741 Views)
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26 May 2018, 05:57 AM
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I'm sure we had an orange (more yellow) strip in the mid seventies. I think I remember being in primary school and the teachers sticking on the tic in some European game- so it must have been before 4pm which seems unlikely.
sachsenring zwickau 1976? Ujpest Doza or was that early seventies?
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26 May 2018, 06:20 AM
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- 25 May 2018, 11:54 PM
Huns in for James Collins.
West Ham let him go as he was a bit part player, is 35 in August and oh did I mention, he's a free agent.
Seems to be a trend setting here?
Decent bit of succession planningTimmy. Alves wont last forever
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26 May 2018, 06:43 AM
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Right, we've all had a fukkin drink, but enough of this blue/orange Celtic tops pish. Aye can we stop this utter pish about blue or oranges strips ffs...probably worst patter ive read on here including a few of my own posts. Let’s just keep it to giving huns pelters.
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26 May 2018, 06:44 AM
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Huns in for James Collins.
West Ham let him go as he was a bit part player, is 35 in August and oh did I mention, he's a free agent.
Seems to be a trend setting here?
Decent bit of succession planningTimmy. Alves wont last forever Reckon Collins is more their type veteran pish players they recruit in the 6 year history.
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26 May 2018, 07:04 AM
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- 25 May 2018, 11:38 PM
After the Skrtel embarrassment, the Daily Record is now reporting that Sevco are interested in 34-year old James Collins, now released by West Ham In the twilight of his career. Check Pish. Check Free. Check
The huns signing policy rolled into one.
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26 May 2018, 07:07 AM
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Huns in for James Collins.
West Ham let him go as he was a bit part player, is 35 in August and oh did I mention, he's a free agent.
Seems to be a trend setting here?
Decent bit of succession planningTimmy. Alves wont last forever
Reckon Collins is more their type veteran pish players they recruit in the 6 year history. Had to google him to see if I knew who he was.
First line of his Wiki says he went to St Josephs Roman Catholic High School in Newport.
This is pish Celtic. Once again they've got one over us. How many players present or ex can we say went to a named 'Roman Catholic High School'.
Get it sorted Lawell
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26 May 2018, 08:30 AM
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King has played a blinder here.
Sell the match day tickets in advance. Get it done before the transfer window closes as he knows what is unfolding this season.
Any drifting away or boycotts will be less of a financial hit if seats are presold.
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26 May 2018, 08:34 AM
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King has played a blinder here. Sell the match day tickets in advance. Get it done before the transfer window closes as he knows what is unfolding this season. Any drifting away or boycotts will be less of a financial hit if seats are presold. Edit:  How can he do that when the fixtures aren’t out ?
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26 May 2018, 08:53 AM
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King has played a blinder here. Sell the match day tickets in advance. Get it done before the transfer window closes as he knows what is unfolding this season. Any drifting away or boycotts will be less of a financial hit if seats are presold. Edit: 
How can he do that when the fixtures aren’t out ? Don't think any clubs wait till the fixtures are announced before selling tickets
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26 May 2018, 08:53 AM
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Wee Barry and Chris Sutton have different viewpoints on ticket allocation at Ibrox. There's only one way to sort this...FIGHT!
Rangers decision to cut Celtic's ticket allocation was justified as it will generate money for Steven Gerrard - Barry Ferguson The Ibrox legend recognises that the derby atmosphere might change but he says it's the right thing to do.
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My attitude to Rangers cutting Celtic’s allocation to 800 tickets? So be it. So much of a fuss is being made over this decision, but if it generates more money for Steven Gerrard, great.
There’s no doubt it’s a watershed moment and the dynamic of these derby games is about to change. Having nearly 9,000 guys wearing the Hoops inside the stadium is all I’ve ever known in these fixtures in Govan. I was brought up as a fan and a player having three quarters of Ibrox filled with the home support and the other quarter to our rivals. I loved nothing more than walking out at Ibrox, looking to my left and seeing all of the Celtic fans packed into the Broomloan Road Stand and they played their part in generating an incredible atmosphere. One of the best you will find anywhere in the football world.
They would traditionally sit behind the goal and it was brilliant when you managed to get a victory but not so good when we lost. When I went to take a corner kick at the Celtic end they would be giving me dogs abuse and it was enjoyable, it’s the type of atmosphere which players love being involved in. They would give me it tight and it only made the victories taste even better.
Celtic will arrive at Ibrox next season and have 50,000 Rangers fans baying for their blood, it's something they should relish and fire them up to play football. Try playing at hostile places such as Galatasaray, Red Star Belgrade or PAOK Salonika. A different level of mayhem and that's a side of the game that I miss.
When I get asked about the noise in an Old Firm match I always say it's completely different being in the middle of the pitch to what it's like sitting in the stands. It can be absolute bedlam and an entirely different ball game so in that sense it's a bit disappointing that it's all about to change. I get the arguments being made for the damage it could do to the atmosphere but who knows what impact having the place almost completely full of Rangers fans will make. We won’t really know what difference these arrangements will make to the dynamic until we sample it. It shouldn’t really be much of an advantage for either side or any kind of major disadvantage. There is also been suggestions that this is a petty move by Rangers but I don’t believe that’s the case. The bottom line as to why Rangers will now look to sell 7,000 more season books is that it will significantly increase revenue this summer.
I’d imagine the cost of a season ticket is just over £350 so by my reckoning that's almost £2.5m in extra revenue, so it makes perfect sense to do that. It’s more money in the coffers for the new manager as he looks to recruit new players and he’ll require significant funds to do that. Having thousands of Celtic fans inside the stadium created a brilliant atmosphere and there is a part of me which is saddened that this will no longer be the case but the bigger picture is about Rangers rebuilding and getting stronger. I loved to hear them singing and rubbing their counterparts up the wrong way, all of that created the atmosphere but let's see how it works next season. The suggestion that Rangers are being petty and this is some kind of tit-for-tat decision isn't a camp I sit in. I'd like to think this move has been triggered purely as a way to create more revenue.
If the motive was anything other than that, then I would be more than disappointed but that's not the way I'm looking at it. Rangers are in a position where they need to generate money in order to push forward and claw Celtic back. So I see why they've done this, it's not about being petty, it's a shrewd financial decision in my view. The demand for extra season books certainly isn't a surprise to me, we are talking about a club where the loyalty of the fans is nothing short of astonishing. There's no doubt the arrival of Gerrard as manager helps but these supporters would still have brought them in the same numbers they have done, it's just what Rangers fans do. You saw that demonstrated clearly when the club found themselves down playing in League Two.
I was never concerned about the ability of Rangers to shift season tickets, if they can sell over 40,000 to watch the likes of Elgin City and Queens Park, achieving record numbers for sales for the Gerrard era was never in much doubt.
They have a top-notch name in as manage and things look to be on the up so I also get why the reduction of tickets for Celtic is a popular move amongst the support. Even after a disappointing season and some very poor results against Celtic, it's now all about the future.
The Steven Gerrard factor has kicked things on to another level.
Rangers board have put Scottish football back years with farcical Celtic ticket decision - Chris Sutton Chris is less than impressed with the decision and thinks it will have a detrimental effect on the big games.
Spoiler: click to toggle ByChris Sutton Scottish football is on the up product wise and supporter wise. Attendances have risen this season across the board. Football is all about the fans so Rangers’ ticket bombshell to slash Celtic’s Ibrox allocation from 8000 to 800 from next season smacked of one word. Hypocrisy. This is the same Rangers who complained when Hibs cut their quota to just under 1500 briefs when they visited Easter Road on the last day of the Premiership season. Rangers had a right moan at Hibs for the exact same thing. They complained the safety of their supporters was paramount and had helped fill the coffers of clubs such as Hibs on their way back up the leagues. If that is the case then can Rangers guarantee the Celtic supporters safety now at Ibrox if the fans are going to be crammed into a tiny corner of the ground? As for the financial argument, I am not aware of Celtic not selling out their entire allocation for Ibrox regardless of how good or bad the team has been performing. Let’s get one thing clear. This is not good news for the Scottish game. These matches are all about the supporters and atmosphere. While it won’t take away the atmosphere completely it will have a huge impact. Rangers’ reasoning is they want to sell more season tickets. They have just announced record season ticket sales of around 44,000 in the wake of Steven Gerrard’s appointment as manager. Rangers are entitled to do what they see fit for their club and I completely understand that. However this course of action will detract greatly from the big derby games. It won’t make them such a great spectacle in the future. Celtic have responded in a tit-for-tat manner. I actually wish Celtic hadn’t done that and occupied the moral high ground in many respects but they’ve every right to react in whatever way they want. They will justify it by saying they are doing what is right by their supporters. But it’s a real bolt from the blue. I played in these matches and the atmosphere was a big part of the derbies. All the two clubs are doing is starving proper fans who want to go to these matches of sampling that experience. I just can’t believe Scottish football’s been reduced to this after such a good season. It all seems a bit unnecessary. Elsewhere, I see Celtic are still locked in talks to sign Odsonne Edouard from PSG and the early signs appear to be very encouraging. The player is also making the right noises in terms of wanting to stay at Celtic. That would represent another huge boost for Brendan Rodgers’s men coming hot on the heels of Tom Rogic’s new five-year deal. However for me the best piece of business that Celtic could complete this summer would be holding on to Moussa Dembele. The Frenchman may not have had as good a campaign as his debut season but he still bagged an impressive goals tally and helped Celtic have another magnificent season domestically by clinching the double Treble. Whenever Celtic were asked a question in big games this season they turned up. They stepped up domestically whenever they were challenged and Dembele more than played a major part. The one negative was the European campaign. That wasn’t up to scratch. Holding onto the best players would aid them in that quest. Celtic will be tested in the summer and there will be suitors for Dembele but we all want to see them take the next step in Europe now. In order to do that they need to keep hold of Dembele as well as strengthen. If Celtic can keep their best players that in turn will attract better players to the club and enhance their chances of competing in Europe. With the European campaign coming around so quickly I feel Dembele has to stay put in Glasgow if Rodgers’s team are to realise their ambition on that stage. Celtic have got some of their recent transfer windows wrong. They did so in January with players such as Charly Musonda from Chelsea and Marvin Compper arriving from Red Bull Leipzig. Their Champions League build-up starts with summer recruitment and they need to get this transfer window right. https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/rangers-board-put-scottish-football-12598671
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26 May 2018, 09:02 AM
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King has played a blinder here. Sell the match day tickets in advance. Get it done before the transfer window closes as he knows what is unfolding this season. Any drifting away or boycotts will be less of a financial hit if seats are presold. Edit: 
How can he do that when the fixtures aren’t out ? He's selling the match day tickets as Season books ... those are the extra 7-8k ST's that are being mentioned as raising 3m (I assume).
There's no major additional income over the course of the season. King is simply ensuring it's front loaded (assuming he sells them)
Then when the huns realise he isn't signing Messi and Ronaldo and they're stuck with the likes of Collins, unable to compete any boycotts or drifting away (they don't do walking) means any financial loss will be minimized.
Edited by DhenBhoy, 26 May 2018, 09:04 AM.
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26 May 2018, 09:03 AM
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King has played a blinder here. Sell the match day tickets in advance. Get it done before the transfer window closes as he knows what is unfolding this season. Any drifting away or boycotts will be less of a financial hit if seats are presold. Edit: 
How can he do that when the fixtures aren’t out ?
Don't think any clubs wait till the fixtures are announced before selling tickets I dont mean season tickets. Dhenbhoy was saying match tickets ?
Maybe cross wires on my part.
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26 May 2018, 09:06 AM
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Don't think any clubs wait till the fixtures are announced before selling tickets
I dont mean season tickets. Dhenbhoy was saying match tickets ? Maybe cross wires on my part. He's selling the matchday tickets in advance, as season tickets. My apologises for not making it crystal clear but I assumed it was easy to understand.
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26 May 2018, 09:06 AM
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King has played a blinder here. Sell the match day tickets in advance. Get it done before the transfer window closes as he knows what is unfolding this season. Any drifting away or boycotts will be less of a financial hit if seats are presold. Edit: 
How can he do that when the fixtures aren’t out ?
He's selling the match day tickets as Season books ... those are the extra 7-8k ST's that are being mentioned as raising 3m (I assume). There's no major additional income over the course of the season. King is simply ensuring it's front loaded (assuming he sells them) Then when the huns realise he isn't signing Messi and Ronaldo and they're stuck with the likes of Collins, unable to compete any boycotts or drifting away (they don't do walking) means any financial loss will be minimized. Ok , got you. Seems an incredibly pointless exercise , other than keeping the lights on a little longer.
I think the big IF is IF indeed they sell these extra books, especially with the likes of Collins being their more realistic moonbeam signings.
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26 May 2018, 09:09 AM
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He's selling the match day tickets as Season books ... those are the extra 7-8k ST's that are being mentioned as raising 3m (I assume). There's no major additional income over the course of the season. King is simply ensuring it's front loaded (assuming he sells them) Then when the huns realise he isn't signing Messi and Ronaldo and they're stuck with the likes of Collins, unable to compete any boycotts or drifting away (they don't do walking) means any financial loss will be minimized.
Ok , got you. Seems an incredibly pointless exercise , other than keeping the lights on a little longer. I think the big IF is IF indeed they sell these extra books, especially with the likes of Collins being their more realistic moonbeam signings. Not really.
Money will earn interest (assuming he doesn't squander it, like normal)
Any financial hit will be minimized if the huns decide to stop attending.
Still up a creek though ...
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26 May 2018, 09:17 AM
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He's selling the match day tickets as Season books ... those are the extra 7-8k ST's that are being mentioned as raising 3m (I assume). There's no major additional income over the course of the season. King is simply ensuring it's front loaded (assuming he sells them) Then when the huns realise he isn't signing Messi and Ronaldo and they're stuck with the likes of Collins, unable to compete any boycotts or drifting away (they don't do walking) means any financial loss will be minimized.
Ok , got you. Seems an incredibly pointless exercise , other than keeping the lights on a little longer. I think the big IF is IF indeed they sell these extra books, especially with the likes of Collins being their more realistic moonbeam signings. It smacks of desperation. They have obviously been trying to think of ways in which they can bring in as much cash as early as possible. Not altogether a bad way of doing it. However, we all know how this will play out. Rather than saving the money and using it when required throughout the season. Perhaps demonstrating to financiers that they have cash in the bank, and lending to them would not be a bad idea. No not this mob, they will spend it like Imelda Marcos buying shoes. And six months down the line, when there is no additional income, and they have come no closer to catching us. Only at that point are they truly fecked.
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26 May 2018, 09:34 AM
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King has played a blinder here. Sell the match day tickets in advance. Get it done before the transfer window closes as he knows what is unfolding this season. Any drifting away or boycotts will be less of a financial hit if seats are presold. Edit: 
How can he do that when the fixtures aren’t out ?
He's selling the match day tickets as Season books ... those are the extra 7-8k ST's that are being mentioned as raising 3m (I assume). There's no major additional income over the course of the season. King is simply ensuring it's front loaded (assuming he sells them) Then when the huns realise he isn't signing Messi and Ronaldo and they're stuck with the likes of Collins, unable to compete any boycotts or drifting away (they don't do walking) means any financial loss will be minimized. Tickets for the Broomloan could have been sold without including games against us. So all he will get is 7500 x £50 x 2...an extra £750k. This is not about an extra £3m, it about pandering to the lowest common denominator in their support who do not want to have us still celebrating in their midden with the other three sides empty.
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Ok , got you. Seems an incredibly pointless exercise , other than keeping the lights on a little longer. I think the big IF is IF indeed they sell these extra books, especially with the likes of Collins being their more realistic moonbeam signings.
It smacks of desperation. They have obviously been trying to think of ways in which they can bring in as much cash as early as possible. Not altogether a bad way of doing it. However, we all know how this will play out. Rather than saving the money and using it when required throughout the season. Perhaps demonstrating to financiers that they have cash in the bank, and lending to them would not be a bad idea. No not this mob, they will spend it like Imelda Marcos buying shoes. And six months down the line, when there is no additional income, and they have come no closer to catching us. Only at that point are they truly fecked. Another thought (assuming Pedro's burros cost anything near the amount quoted) given the player acquisition liabilities in their accounts ... the never never payments must be due for those duds soon?
Edit: I am assuming the 7m+ figure in their accounts under that heading means it's a debt for player purchases still to be settled.
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26 May 2018, 09:37 AM
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He's selling the match day tickets as Season books ... those are the extra 7-8k ST's that are being mentioned as raising 3m (I assume). There's no major additional income over the course of the season. King is simply ensuring it's front loaded (assuming he sells them) Then when the huns realise he isn't signing Messi and Ronaldo and they're stuck with the likes of Collins, unable to compete any boycotts or drifting away (they don't do walking) means any financial loss will be minimized.
Tickets for the Broomloan could have been sold without including games against us. So all he will get is 7500 x £50 x 2...an extra £750k. This is not about an extra £3m, it about pandering to the lowest common denominator in their support who do not want to have us still celebrating in their midden with the other three sides empty. Again, only IF they sell them. Are the Stevie G moonbeams that strong ?
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26 May 2018, 09:43 AM
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He's selling the match day tickets as Season books ... those are the extra 7-8k ST's that are being mentioned as raising 3m (I assume). There's no major additional income over the course of the season. King is simply ensuring it's front loaded (assuming he sells them) Then when the huns realise he isn't signing Messi and Ronaldo and they're stuck with the likes of Collins, unable to compete any boycotts or drifting away (they don't do walking) means any financial loss will be minimized.
Tickets for the Broomloan could have been sold without including games against us. So all he will get is 7500 x £50 x 2...an extra £750k. This is not about an extra £3m, it about pandering to the lowest common denominator in their support who do not want to have us still celebrating in their midden with the other three sides empty. NO: You're looking at it wrong .. even then they wouldn't get anything since we already pay the fifty quid for those seats.
They're stating they will release the match day tickets those seats are shifted to as ST books.
Less match day tickets and more season books.
Those that attend on a less regular basis will have less opportunity to get tickets.
Are their season books not capped at 42k at present? They will will rise to 49/50k
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