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The All New Sevco Back in Yer Bin Thread; Taking out the trash
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Topic Started: 29 Apr 2018, 04:24 PM (2,087,096 Views)
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lubolubo
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1 May 2018, 07:50 AM
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Overheard a couple of huns in the pub tonight. Seemingly while yesterday was "head in the oven" material, the true must win game is against Hibs. Everything is geared towards stopping that bastard Lenny. While I don't have much hope for Aberdeen, it would truly finish them if they were to finish behind a Neil Lennon led Hibs in the league 
Is it not true though that if they do come fourth and we win the cup they get a Europa spot anyway and have to play less qualifiers than Aberdeen and Hibs? All Scottish teams enter in the 1st qualifying round this year.
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1 May 2018, 07:54 AM
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Spoke to someone well in with factions in their board And as usual so much in fighting Whilst King has brought in Stevie G he won't commit without money and the money around and about wont commit without King leaving And the money that they think is needed to get king out, get the stadium sorted and get the squad back to standard that compete with us they estimate at nearly 100m There's only 1 guy who could put in anywhere near that sum and he's still to sell his other interest, will not see why he should give king a penny and doesn't want Stevie g as manager Who the eff has a hundred million sitting around that they're going to just pump into Sevco knowing full well they will never see it back?
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1 May 2018, 07:56 AM
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Stevie G must be an option as Billy Dodds is rubbishing the board therefore ruling himself out for consideration for the job from the board and the fans. Maybe Stevie G's agent should read this "(the board) “They have just said, ‘We’ve used you, we’ve abused you, now off you pop’.
Dodds blast Ex-Rangers striker Billy Dodds believes Graeme Murty has been treated shamefully by the Ibrox board In the wake of Sunday’s Old Firm thrashing by Celtic, the former Light Blues ace insisted the club is completely broken from top to bottom
Spoiler: click to toggle By Colin Duncan BILLY DODDS has accused Rangers of ‘using and abusing’ Graeme Murty. Dodds believes Gers caretaker boss Murty has been treated shamefully by the Ibrox board. In the wake of Sunday’s Old Firm thrashing, ex-Rangers ace Dodds insisted the club is completely broken from top to bottom. Dodds reckons Murty was a dead man walking from the moment Ibrox chairman Dave King issued a statement undermining him. King threw Murty under a bus prior to the Scottish Cup semi- final defeat to Celtic by casting doubt over his long-term future in the manager’s role. The upshot was a 4-0 beating at Hampden, followed by an even more humiliating 5-0 drubbing at Parkhead as Celts clinched the title. Dodds said: “Give Graeme Murty a bit of credit for what he’s done. “He held the ship steady, and Rangers played well for a wee while before falling away. “You’ve got to give your manager a bit of credit, but the Rangers board haven’t even given any recognition to Murty for the job he’s done. “They have just said, ‘We’ve used you, we’ve abused you, now off you pop’. “Getting my coach’s head on, if I do that and I help them out, and Murty stepped in twice during Rangers’ time of need, you shouldn’t be treated like that. “If I had been treated like that twice and these statements came out, I couldn’t personally go back to being the Under-20s manager. “You are trying to help out and they just bin you?” Murty’s players are clearly not showing him the respect he believes he deserves, with Kenny Miller and Lee Wallace suspended after a bust-up with him. The furious reactions of Andy Halliday and Daniel Candeias when they were hauled off at Hampden again highlighted a breakdown in dressing-room relations. On Sunday it was the turn of Josh Windass to strop off in a huff, and blank his gaffer’s handshake when he was hooked. Dodds added: “The players should be more dignified than that. “Of course, we all got angry with our managers when he took us off, but to just walk off like that isn’t right. “For me, the board gave the players the licence to do that with the timing of the statements before the games against Celtic, and what they said about the manager. “After that the players would be thinking, ‘Well, he’s not going to be here for long and I’m not going to have to answer to him’. “It’s the worst thing the board could have done to the manager.” While Gers’ flops are clearly nowhere near up to the task of challenging seven-in-a-row champs Celtic, Dodds believes the lack of joined-up thinking from King and his board is contributing to the shambles on the park. Ex-Ross County No2 Dodds said: “As someone who has worked with chairmen, if everyone is on the same page then you have a better chance of succeeding. “But where is the chairman? Where is the manager? Oh, they have thrown him under a bus. “Where is the director of football? Where is the press officer? Rangers aren’t functioning properly so they are not ahead of the curve. “What they need to do is strip it all back and have a smooth-running operation. Do that and they will be better placed to have a go. “If the club isn’t running smoothly you move two steps forward and three steps back. That’s what Rangers have been doing. If they had been running smoothly they would be comfortably second in the table, but the confusion at Ibrox has held back the playing side. “When you look at the budgets of the top sides, Rangers are in danger of coming fourth in a two-horse race. “Then Alastair Johnston makes THAT statement about being ahead of the curve. “If Rangers had a good press officer then they would have told him it wasn’t the right time to put that out.” Dodds accepts there has to be major changes off the park at Ibrox before Gers can start to progress. But while he was highly critical of the board, Dodds feels the players need to take a hard look in the mirror following the latest in a long line of gutless Old Firm surrenders. Dodds added: “The players need to look at themselves for the way they played. Everyone at Rangers should look at their role because that’s the best way of clawing their way back. “When the Rangers players went to their fans before the kick-off at Parkhead I thought, ‘Oh aye, they are up for it!’. Then they go out and deliver that performance. “I’d have been doing a bit of soul-searching after I’d just given the fans the big one and then not kicked a ball. “We’ve all played badly. I’ve been a player and a coach, but to be part of such a one- sided defeat after saluting the supporters is so poor. “It’s not just about the board. If things aren’t right at the top then they won’t be right at the bottom, but as a player you have to be disciplined. “You need to make yourselves hard to beat, even if Celtic do have the better players just now. “Instead, Rangers were all over the place.” https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/2577899/billy-dodds-graeme-murty-rangers-shameful-treatment-ibrox-board-dave-king/
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1 May 2018, 07:56 AM
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Spoke to someone well in with factions in their board And as usual so much in fighting Whilst King has brought in Stevie G he won't commit without money and the money around and about wont commit without King leaving And the money that they think is needed to get king out, get the stadium sorted and get the squad back to standard that compete with us they estimate at nearly 100m There's only 1 guy who could put in anywhere near that sum and he's still to sell his other interest, will not see why he should give king a penny and doesn't want Stevie g as manager
Who the eff has a hundred million sitting around that they're going to just pump into Sevco knowing full well they will never see it back? Not Mike Ashely, that's for sure.
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shugmc
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1 May 2018, 07:57 AM
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- 1 May 2018, 07:29 AM
What the eff was Ian Wright on about? It's a 'miracle' Sevco are 3rd in the league at this stage?  As if it's a rags to riches story coming up the divisions like Gretna did, they seem oblivious that the old club cheated Her Majesty and croaked it. Ian Wright? That Maggie loving, Chicken Tonight carrot knows the square root of eff all
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1 May 2018, 07:58 AM
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And who legs it out of whichever shop or cafe he is in when he sees me coming as I’m the mother of the “ Fenian basta#d “ with whom he wanted the square go. No, that’s not correct, he wanted the square go with my boy’s Hun pal on account of him “ always hingin’ aboot with that Fenian basta#d “ They were 15.
Is it true, have you sent Bazza (8) running? All true.
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shugmc
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1 May 2018, 08:05 AM
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I would like to take the opportunity to explain my reason for resigning as a director of club 1872. I got involved last year because I perceived that Laura Fawkes and Joanne Percival were good people trying to do their best for fellow Rangers fans. I have been involved in numerous boards of charities and local voluntary organisations down the years and have a lot of experience of partnership working and strategy development and delivery. I first became concerned at the start of the year whilst in a meeting with Stewart Robertson with Laura Fawkes. I was endeavouring to outline the issue raised by Laura at the AGM on behalf of the fans which was the lack of transparency of the club and how there was a disconnect between both parties, whilst making this point Laura interrupted me to state she didn’t think this was an issue. I found it difficult to understand both her interruption and her undermining what I personally feel is a tangible issue (raised by members prior to the AGM). This set the tone over the following months where the club made offers of assistance but rarely delivered and were never taken to task. I understand that their reasoning will be they were dealing with stabilising the club and although I recognise this as an issue I felt it extremely difficult to feel any real tangible assistance by the club other than paying Chris Graham for a number of days a week assistance to Club 1872. As Laura and Chris do the majority of the organisations day to day work I felt increasingly minimised whilst I endeavoured to deliver a number of projects in conjunction with the charity foundation, Rangers disabled supporters group and also the Founder’s trail, with the overall feeling that unless it was their idea there was little support for moving things forward. After a number of exchanges with Laura where I felt she was disrespectful towards me I felt that I had no other course of action but to resign, which I did about a month ago, at the same time another director tendered their resignation as they were unhappy how the board was operating however I believe they may have been talked into staying. I found no support amongst the other directors as Joanne in truth contributes very little to the organisation and endorses Laura’s every decision, and the other directors are happy to take no action. I suppose the best way to sum up how little cognisance the board took of the issues I raised was when Euan Mcfarlane called me to tell me not to undermine the organisation which he had spent so much time building and also to think about the negativity that might occur towards other directors if I went public, he summed up this one sided approach by stating that Laura admitted she had made mistakes, but had done nothing wrong which I personally believe is a contradiction but perhaps I am being overly critical. It transpires that my resignation has been fortunate as I am now dealing with a fairly serious illness and the stress encountered during my tenure has undoubtedly not helped, with this in mind I really do not wish to say anything further or lobby for change. In conclusion I believe in Club 1872 and the notion of a true fans voice. I don’t believe that the organisation will move forward with Laura Fawkes and Joanne Percival involved. There will shortly be a member’s vote to extend director’s terms which will keep them in place for a longer period. I would ask that any genuine person who is committed to representing fans and holding the club truly accountable stands for election later in the year, and that all club 1872 members consider very seriously when they agree to perpetuating the board in its current form when the vote is held with regards to extending director’s terms.
so not only is Club1690 run by Blair, Sevco are using it to pay Wham Gloves to pen their pompous bilge Good, innit? 
Mugs
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1 May 2018, 08:16 AM
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Who the eff has a hundred million sitting around that they're going to just pump into Sevco knowing full well they will never see it back?
Not Mike Ashely, that's for sure. 30m,50m,100m? Whatever is needed is lost money. Who is going to plough that sort of money into that football club knowing they will never see it again? If it's a RRM then they are six years too late unless they won the Euro millions jackpot last week. Pie in the sky, moonbeams, cloud cuckoo land ambitions.
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1 May 2018, 08:43 AM
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- 1 May 2018, 12:27 AM
What's jonaton Johansen doing in the directors box? He not the right hqnd man of murtsy? Game management Declan, always views the 1st half from the stand so he can tell Murty just how shampooe they really are.
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1 May 2018, 08:45 AM
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Listening to Edgar's podcast last night and the hurt is so sweet. I think they going all in on Gerrard and if they don't hire him I think they'll combust. It's very funny listening.
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1 May 2018, 08:51 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xg6mR2F5Zjw
Belter of a song (sorry dont know how to embed)
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1 May 2018, 08:51 AM
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Listening to Edgar's podcast last night and the hurt is so sweet. I think they going all in on Gerrard and if they don't hire him I think they'll combust. It's very funny listening. I love the way they are all experts on football, but also on business ('If I have a few guys working for me I make damn sure...one has to think....simply unacceptable.....etc etc).
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1 May 2018, 08:52 AM
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Overheard a couple of huns in the pub tonight. Seemingly while yesterday was "head in the oven" material, the true must win game is against Hibs. Everything is geared towards stopping that bastard Lenny. While I don't have much hope for Aberdeen, it would truly finish them if they were to finish behind a Neil Lennon led Hibs in the league 
Is it not true though that if they do come fourth and we win the cup they get a Europa spot anyway and have to play less qualifiers than Aberdeen and Hibs?
All Scottish teams enter in the 1st qualifying round this year. Wiki thinks that the Scottish cup winner will get a bye to the QR2. That would be reallocated if Celtic win the cup, of course.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018–19_UEFA_Europa_League#Second_qualifying_round
Put it another way, if the league finishes as it is now (Aberdeen 2nd, Huns 3rd, Hibs 4th) and Celtic win the cup, then Aberdeen would be QR2, Huns and Hibs would be in QR1. If Motherwell won the cup, they would be in QR2 while Aberdeen and Huns would be in QR1.
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1 May 2018, 08:57 AM
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Don’t touch it with a barge pole, son...
The Crystal Palace boss, who coached Gerrard at Liverpool, advised the Reds legend to do his "due diligence" with regard to the vacant managerial post before agreeing to fill it.
https://amp.sportsmole.co.uk/football/rangers/news/roy-hodgson-issues-warning-to-gerrard_324791.html
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1 May 2018, 09:00 AM
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What's jonaton Johansen doing in the directors box? He not the right hqnd man of murtsy?
Game management Declan, always views the 1st half from the stand so he can tell Murty just how shampooe they really are. Just surmising that,if Phil was correct in his blog last night and(lots of ands,ifs,buts here) Murty was indeed banished from the dressing room before KO and at HT,to allow Bomber or Nichol to deliver team talks,then maybe there was no obvious need for him to be there either.
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1 May 2018, 09:01 AM
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Roy Hodgson's advice to Gerrard was "do your due diligence". Not often you hear that said publicly when a manager is offered a job. Shower of shady bastards that they are.
Think he will take it but it would absolutely end me if he knocked them back after all this. Aye, the Hun pain would be delightful.
Another massive deflation
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1 May 2018, 09:03 AM
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All Scottish teams enter in the 1st qualifying round this year.
Wiki thinks that the Scottish cup winner will get a bye to the QR2. That would be reallocated if Celtic win the cup, of course. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018–19_UEFA_Europa_League#Second_qualifying_roundPut it another way, if the league finishes as it is now (Aberdeen 2nd, Huns 3rd, Hibs 4th) and Celtic win the cup, then Aberdeen would be QR2, Huns and Hibs would be in QR1. If Motherwell won the cup, they would be in QR2 while Aberdeen and Huns would be in QR1. Just checked Bert Kassies and it looks like you're right.
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1 May 2018, 09:03 AM
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From TSFM.
A supposed Sky Sports article claiming Gerrard might be loaned to Sevco.
https://www.sfm.scot/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/loan.jpg
That's a new one and quite an inventive way of trying to resolve fund issues. (If true).
Edit, to add
So the Sky Sports/ Andy Dunn feature is actually genuine as it's on their web site.
https://www.sfm.scot/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/loan.jpg
And as John Clarke (TSFM, poster) muses, are there any regulations about that? (What would happen if Sevco meet Liverpool in the semi final of UEFA Cup?) I
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1 May 2018, 09:04 AM
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Not Mike Ashely, that's for sure.
30m,50m,100m? Whatever is needed is lost money. Who is going to plough that sort of money into that football club knowing they will never see it again? If it's a RRM then they are six years too late unless they won the Euro millions jackpot last week. Pie in the sky, moonbeams, cloud cuckoo land ambitions. Ellis Short has just walked away from Sunderland having lost £200m. That’s former EPL Sunderland who are still receiving parachute payments which sevco can only have wet dreams about. Why anyone thinks anyone is going to come in and throw £100m at a basket case in Scotland which will only siphon money out of their account is beyond me!
Ashley (or anyone else) needs to put in a minimum of £25m just to clear the decks. Then they need to spend at least £10m very, very judiciously on the squad and a rumoured £10m or so on the stadium and training ground. That’s just to secure second place. At the same time, they’d need to clean out the stables of every chancer and hanger-on and completely restructure everything whilst doing what neither rangers or sevco have ever achieved - breaking even financially. All the while keeping the sevconian hordes onside. Then and only then could Ashley begin to see a profit on the retail side. And what a profit!
It is sheer fantasy!
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1 May 2018, 09:12 AM
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talk sport saying Murty won't be in charge of team this weekend
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