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The All New Sevco Back in Yer Bin Thread; Taking out the trash
Topic Started: 29 Apr 2018, 04:24 PM (2,086,830 Views)
Ffdiva
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Ricky Spanish
16 May 2018, 08:46 AM
JamesM
16 May 2018, 07:44 AM
Former Rangers youth player (now a season ticket holder there) contacts Rangers asking for an apology and compensation for having suffered sexual abuse there during the 1980s.

Rangers response?

Naw pal, we're not the same club any more.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-44126217
Even by their standards that is absolutely shocking. I had to read it a few times to believe what they are saying.
They are really the most vile “ institution,“ truly are Scotland’s Shame. :nono:
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16 May 2018, 02:25 PM
Stewart Weir on twittter, the guy is a compete winker.

‘the #SFA appear, in some instances, desperate to correct mistakes they believe they have made in the past, or, things they didn't act upon when they should have. If they work through this alphabetically, it shouldn't be too long before the come to 'abuse' ...’
Was he the editor of the Hearld sports section ?
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As a Celtic fan I’ve had to endure years and years of the BJK pish from them from the turnstiles to carrots in other walks of life using it as point scoring. It’s been worse in recent years as they’ve had nothing on the park to gloat about.

Reading these disgusting allegations today now knowing that not only did this go on at Ibrox but now they are refusing to pay compensation treating abuse victims as creditors is a now low for any club.

Seeing as this is a subject which is close to the their hearts I wonder how they will react towards their own club.

I’m not going to bother looking at their forums but I can hazard a guess it will look something like “they done it first” or “it was worse over there” etc

The important thing is bringing anyone who was involved in historic child abuse (and still alive) to justice and offer as much support to victims. Not as stand alone clubs but as society.
Edited by Haitch, 16 May 2018, 07:12 PM.
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16 May 2018, 12:01 PM
It's 2018. They can't just try and hope fo this to go away by blaming the former company.
But isn’t it reflective of who they really are, not that we didn’t know, but now the rest of society
has their eyes opened. :nono:
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To be honest I will never use child abuse as a means of point scoring.

IMHO both them and us should be appointing a QC or senior legal person to look at what happened within the club, what mistakes were made and how to go about ensuring they are not repeated. They must also talk to the victims and offer help - including financial redress.
Edited by Corky Buczek, 16 May 2018, 07:25 PM.
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Haitch
16 May 2018, 07:10 PM
As a Celtic fan I’ve had to endure years and years of the BJK pish from them from the turnstiles to carrots in other walks of life using it as point scoring. It’s been worse in recent years as they’ve had nothing on the park to gloat about.

Reading these disgusting allegations today now knowing that not only did this go on at Ibrox but now they are refusing to pay compensation treating abuse victims as creditors is a now low for any club.

Seeing as this is a subject which is close to the their hearts I wonder how they will react towards their own club.

I’m not going to bother looking at their forums but I can hazard a guess it will look something like “they done it first” or “it was worse over there” etc

The important thing is bringing anyone who was involved in historic child abuse (and still alive) to justice and offer as much support to victims. Not as stand alone clubs but as society.
They are blaming Hibs...
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Haitch
16 May 2018, 07:10 PM
As a Celtic fan I’ve had to endure years and years of the BJK pish from them from the turnstiles to carrots in other walks of life using it as point scoring. It’s been worse in recent years as they’ve had nothing on the park to gloat about.

Reading these disgusting allegations today now knowing that not only did this go on at Ibrox but now they are refusing to pay compensation treating abuse victims as creditors is a now low for any club.

Seeing as this is a subject which is close to the their hearts I wonder how they will react towards their own club.

I’m not going to bother looking at their forums but I can hazard a guess it will look something like “they done it first” or “it was worse over there” etc

The important thing is bringing anyone who was involved in historic child abuse (and still alive) to justice and offer as much support to victims. Not as stand alone clubs but as society.
It's actually 'Hibs did it first'.

Along with a load of other blah.

There is child abuse in every known society, form of society, religion, creed, and any other way you want to divide it up.

In our particular one it was till relatively recently routinely ignored by large sections of it to our collective shame.

The idiocy is in imagining that in some bizarre respect your particular section of that society was somehow miraculously immune either to it existing or in the past being ignored or even tolerated.


........ oh and always be slightly suspicious of those shouting the loudest, the number of times that one leads to a 'Oh FFS' moment is large.
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Corky Buczek
16 May 2018, 07:07 PM
The Maestro
16 May 2018, 02:25 PM
Stewart Weir on twittter, the guy is a compete winker.

‘the #SFA appear, in some instances, desperate to correct mistakes they believe they have made in the past, or, things they didn't act upon when they should have. If they work through this alphabetically, it shouldn't be too long before the come to 'abuse' ...’
Was he the editor of the Hearld sports section ?
I think so mate.
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I played poker against Alan McGregor at the Maybury. He had a packet of crisps and a coke and took bants well. Wasn't very good at poker. I dread to think how much he has lost over his career.
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Haitch
16 May 2018, 07:10 PM
As a Celtic fan I’ve had to endure years and years of the BJK pish from them from the turnstiles to carrots in other walks of life using it as point scoring. It’s been worse in recent years as they’ve had nothing on the park to gloat about.

Reading these disgusting allegations today now knowing that not only did this go on at Ibrox but now they are refusing to pay compensation treating abuse victims as creditors is a now low for any club.

Seeing as this is a subject which is close to the their hearts I wonder how they will react towards their own club.

I’m not going to bother looking at their forums but I can hazard a guess it will look something like “they done it first” or “it was worse over there” etc

The important thing is bringing anyone who was involved in historic child abuse (and still alive) to justice and offer as much support to victims. Not as stand alone clubs but as society.
My immediate thoughts were they'd react by saying the BBC made the story up or, worse still, the guy himself is lying.

Still, they are so concerned with this subject matter & they always insist it isn't about point scoring.

I have no doubt they are demanding answers from their club.
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smudgethecat
16 May 2018, 07:56 PM
I played poker against Alan McGregor at the Maybury. He had a packet of crisps and a coke and took bants well. Wasn't very good at poker. I dread to think how much he has lost over his career.
Was it not him or his mrs who were professional and did tournaments in Vegas?
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16 May 2018, 08:01 PM
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16 May 2018, 07:56 PM
I played poker against Alan McGregor at the Maybury. He had a packet of crisps and a coke and took bants well. Wasn't very good at poker. I dread to think how much he has lost over his career.
Was it not him or his mrs who were professional and did tournaments in Vegas?
Ex missus aye...she used to play professionally until he started rodgering skeletor shevlin.
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Get yer money on there being a fine levied over the European license issue......and it will be sent to the liquidators of the old company
It’s a tried and tested method of making unpleasantness go away for the huns
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Tam Haas
16 May 2018, 07:58 PM
Haitch
16 May 2018, 07:10 PM
As a Celtic fan I’ve had to endure years and years of the BJK pish from them from the turnstiles to carrots in other walks of life using it as point scoring. It’s been worse in recent years as they’ve had nothing on the park to gloat about.

Reading these disgusting allegations today now knowing that not only did this go on at Ibrox but now they are refusing to pay compensation treating abuse victims as creditors is a now low for any club.

Seeing as this is a subject which is close to the their hearts I wonder how they will react towards their own club.

I’m not going to bother looking at their forums but I can hazard a guess it will look something like “they done it first” or “it was worse over there” etc

The important thing is bringing anyone who was involved in historic child abuse (and still alive) to justice and offer as much support to victims. Not as stand alone clubs but as society.
My immediate thoughts were they'd react by saying the BBC made the story up or, worse still, the guy himself is lying.

Still, they are so concerned with this subject matter & they always insist it isn't about point scoring.

I have no doubt they are demanding answers from their club.
One actually wrote "strange that he now has a season ticket given the allegations" or words to that effect.
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Anyone feel like the Gerrard appoint is PLG all over again? Feel like every sevconian's answer to something is: 'yeah but Gerrard will change it'. If something good happens its because Gerrard approved it, if something bad on the park happens its due to Mark Allen and how he must have approved it before Gerrard. When PLG was appointed he was gonna storm the league just on the basis of him being PLG. If the media put out a bad story about them its because we're jealous of Gerrard stealing the headlines.

Can't help but feel they are caught up on Gerrard the former player over Gerrard the manager.
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16 May 2018, 06:12 PM
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16 May 2018, 05:59 PM
There have been supporters asking questions about the European Licence being granted to Rangers for season 2011-2012 for years, and all they got was rubber eared by the SFA and the good old Scottish Media.

It will be interesting to see exactly what Rangers entered in their application regarding Tax outstanding. If they claimed that Tax outstanding from the wee tax case was being disputed or was still being negotiated so not due, then the SFA should face serious charges of incompetence or collusion. Quite simply, a call to HMRC would have cleared that up at the time.

If the charges are proven, then it cost Celtic a place in the Champions League qualifiers and I think Kilmarnock a place in Europe League.

Rangers might have failed to reach the League stages of both tournaments thanks to that superb Manager Ally McCoist, but they did
benefit from ticket sales from two home games they should not have had.

These are extremely serious charges.

It makes you wonder if maybe this was the major reason a certain Stewart Regan got out of Dodge.
As we speak I'm sure there's an army of SMSM churnalists beating a path to his door to find out if he knew this was coming down the pipe.
Remember his “ the bill hadn’t crystallised yet “ defense, and his e mail to Rangers looking for
approval of his intended statement should he be questioned on the outstanding tax bill, only
to be instructed by Rangers to say nothing.

The Res 12 guys have done an amazing job on this, but SFA are complicit in this fraud.

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16 May 2018, 08:03 PM
Get yer money on there being a fine levied over the European license issue......and it will be sent to the liquidators of the old company
It’s a tried and tested method of making unpleasantness go away for the huns
Under the 5 way agreement, they're liable for all of Rangers football debts, in return for being allowed to pretend to be Rangers, are they not?
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It is chaos as usual down at Ibrokes. They have lumbered themselves with a model that means Allen clearly buys the players and Gerrard or more likely McAllister then coaches them.

Plenty of in built excuses there for failure and an array of scapegoats.

Their new golden boy is just going to be a figure head with the short term aim of selling season book and merchandise.

I think 2018-19 season will be another car crash season on the field with Administration looming given the total lack of a forward thinking plan.
Edited by CM1975, 16 May 2018, 08:24 PM.
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16 May 2018, 08:02 PM
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16 May 2018, 07:56 PM
I played poker against Alan McGregor at the Maybury. He had a packet of crisps and a coke and took bants well. Wasn't very good at poker. I dread to think how much he has lost over his career.
Was it not him or his mrs who were professional and did tournaments in Vegas?
Ex missus aye...she used to play professionally until he started rodgering skeletor shevlin.
What at the poker :o
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16 May 2018, 08:10 PM
Anyone feel like the Gerrard appoint is PLG all over again? Feel like every sevconian's answer to something is: 'yeah but Gerrard will change it'. If something good happens its because Gerrard approved it, if something bad on the park happens its due to Mark Allen and how he must have approved it before Gerrard. When PLG was appointed he was gonna storm the league just on the basis of him being PLG. If the media put out a bad story about them its because we're jealous of Gerrard stealing the headlines.

Can't help but feel they are caught up on Gerrard the former player over Gerrard the manager.
Nothing like Le Guen. Le Guen came with an excellent reputation and was well thought of. Gerrard is more of a novice than Murty.
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