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The All New Sevco Back in Yer Bin Thread; Taking out the trash
Topic Started: 29 Apr 2018, 04:24 PM (2,086,840 Views)
jbj712
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Willing to stand correcte if wrong, but this looks to me as if the SFA are in a bind here. UEFA know that the licence should not have been granted, so the SFA are now saying that the system basically relies on trusting clubs to make honest declarations of what they know. It seems that the SFA are saying they were lied to by the deid Huns, so the granting of the licence wasn’t the SFA’s fault. That would also cover the second charge of the Huns not being good members of the SFA.

UEFA. dealt with this by saying there was no need for action because the zombies were a new club. Again I might be wrong but wasn’t Regan cryptic about the same club pish, unlike Doncaster?

The zombie St. Atement is as others have pointed out another attempt at bullying and blackmail, so interesting times ahead.

Nothing would surprise me in terms of outcomes but there must be pressure coming from somewhere or even this much to have out!
Perhaps the SFA might be afraid that UEFA might take action against them and the national team if SFA personnel were to be found implicated in the fraudulent granting of the licence?
Edited by jbj712, 15 May 2018, 09:57 PM.
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Dannybhoy95
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This is all well and good, but when's the titles getting stripped?
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Dannybhoy95
15 May 2018, 10:09 PM
This is all well and good, but when's the titles getting stripped?
They won't be.
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jbj712
15 May 2018, 09:56 PM
Willing to stand correcte if wrong, but this looks to me as if the SFA are in a bind here. UEFA know that the licence should not have been granted, so the SFA are now saying that the system basically relies on trusting clubs to make honest declarations of what they know. It seems that the SFA are saying they were lied to by the deid Huns, so the granting of the licence wasn’t the SFA’s fault. That would also cover the second charge of the Huns not being good members of the SFA.

UEFA. dealt with this by saying there was no need for action because the zombies were a new club. Again I might be wrong but wasn’t Regan cryptic about the same club pish, unlike Doncaster?

The zombie St. Atement is as others have pointed out another attempt at bullying and blackmail, so interesting times ahead.

Nothing would surprise me in terms of outcomes but there must be pressure coming from somewhere or even this much to have out!
Perhaps the SFA might be afraid that UEFA might take action against them and the national team if SFA personnel were to be found implicated in the fraudulent granting of the licence?
Ah the Sandy Bryson gambit the SFA used to exnorate the side contracts

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jbj712
15 May 2018, 09:56 PM
Willing to stand correcte if wrong, but this looks to me as if the SFA are in a bind here. UEFA know that the licence should not have been granted, so the SFA are now saying that the system basically relies on trusting clubs to make honest declarations of what they know. It seems that the SFA are saying they were lied to by the deid Huns, so the granting of the licence wasn’t the SFA’s fault. That would also cover the second charge of the Huns not being good members of the SFA.

UEFA. dealt with this by saying there was no need for action because the zombies were a new club. Again I might be wrong but wasn’t Regan cryptic about the same club pish, unlike Doncaster?

The zombie St. Atement is as others have pointed out another attempt at bullying and blackmail, so interesting times ahead.

Nothing would surprise me in terms of outcomes but there must be pressure coming from somewhere or even this much to have out!
Perhaps the SFA might be afraid that UEFA might take action against them and the national team if SFA personnel were to be found implicated in the fraudulent granting of the licence?
I think whole thing stems from the evidence given by the former directors during Sir Craig's trial.
Whether they let the cat out the bag inadvertently , or feared a charge of perjury, who knows.
But that was the starting point to this , and it is an open and shut case :lolhuns:
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Dannybhoy95
15 May 2018, 10:09 PM
This is all well and good, but when's the titles getting stripped?
:hmmm: A link to a Wham Gloves quote led me to their "Countdown to Share Issue" on club 18-72.

They're saying that they've tried everything to ensure they're the best way for fans to invest, but due to the massive amounts of other investment, coming from all over the place, it's inevitable their holding will be diluted - unless you give us hunners of cash!

:lolhuns:

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jbj712
15 May 2018, 09:56 PM
Willing to stand correcte if wrong, but this looks to me as if the SFA are in a bind here. UEFA know that the licence should not have been granted, so the SFA are now saying that the system basically relies on trusting clubs to make honest declarations of what they know. It seems that the SFA are saying they were lied to by the deid Huns, so the granting of the licence wasn’t the SFA’s fault. That would also cover the second charge of the Huns not being good members of the SFA.

UEFA. dealt with this by saying there was no need for action because the zombies were a new club. Again I might be wrong but wasn’t Regan cryptic about the same club pish, unlike Doncaster?

The zombie St. Atement is as others have pointed out another attempt at bullying and blackmail, so interesting times ahead.

Nothing would surprise me in terms of outcomes but there must be pressure coming from somewhere or even this much to have out!
Perhaps the SFA might be afraid that UEFA might take action against them and the national team if SFA personnel were to be found implicated in the fraudulent granting of the licence?
I wonder if the SFA would, if their backs were against the wall, finally decide to throw the Huns under the bus?
They have certainly bailed them out on a number of occasions, and under normal circumstances would happily do so again.
But if the threat was so great, that it left them very exposed, I wonder if they be so keen to stick their necks out.
Kind of like when the FBI come after the Mob. They go after the local politicians that are protecting them, and all of a sudden the dominos start falling.
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15 May 2018, 10:25 PM
jbj712
15 May 2018, 09:56 PM
Willing to stand correcte if wrong, but this looks to me as if the SFA are in a bind here. UEFA know that the licence should not have been granted, so the SFA are now saying that the system basically relies on trusting clubs to make honest declarations of what they know. It seems that the SFA are saying they were lied to by the deid Huns, so the granting of the licence wasn’t the SFA’s fault. That would also cover the second charge of the Huns not being good members of the SFA.

UEFA. dealt with this by saying there was no need for action because the zombies were a new club. Again I might be wrong but wasn’t Regan cryptic about the same club pish, unlike Doncaster?

The zombie St. Atement is as others have pointed out another attempt at bullying and blackmail, so interesting times ahead.

Nothing would surprise me in terms of outcomes but there must be pressure coming from somewhere or even this much to have out!
Perhaps the SFA might be afraid that UEFA might take action against them and the national team if SFA personnel were to be found implicated in the fraudulent granting of the licence?
I wonder if the SFA would, if their backs were against the wall, finally decide to throw the Huns under the bus?
They have certainly bailed them out on a number of occasions, and under normal circumstances would happily do so again.
But if the threat was so great, that it left them very exposed, I wonder if they be so keen to stick their necks out.
Kind of like when the FBI come after the Mob. They go after the local politicians that are protecting them, and all of a sudden the dominos start falling.
Regan got out of dodge PDQ.
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'In the know hun' :lolhuns: telt me tonight they are in talks with ESPN and maybe Gatorade about separate finance deals worth 60m over 4 years, Gerrard being the deal maker/breaker in each. :lmao:
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Asgardstreasure
15 May 2018, 10:23 PM
jbj712
15 May 2018, 09:56 PM
Willing to stand correcte if wrong, but this looks to me as if the SFA are in a bind here. UEFA know that the licence should not have been granted, so the SFA are now saying that the system basically relies on trusting clubs to make honest declarations of what they know. It seems that the SFA are saying they were lied to by the deid Huns, so the granting of the licence wasn’t the SFA’s fault. That would also cover the second charge of the Huns not being good members of the SFA.

UEFA. dealt with this by saying there was no need for action because the zombies were a new club. Again I might be wrong but wasn’t Regan cryptic about the same club pish, unlike Doncaster?

The zombie St. Atement is as others have pointed out another attempt at bullying and blackmail, so interesting times ahead.

Nothing would surprise me in terms of outcomes but there must be pressure coming from somewhere or even this much to have out!
Perhaps the SFA might be afraid that UEFA might take action against them and the national team if SFA personnel were to be found implicated in the fraudulent granting of the licence?
I think whole thing stems from the evidence given by the former directors during Sir Craig's trial.
Whether they let the cat out the bag inadvertently , or feared a charge of perjury, who knows.
But that was the starting point to this , and it is an open and shut case :lolhuns:
I think they genuinely couldn’t remember what lies they told to whom when. Fair play to the lads that were listening carefully
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nakasboots
15 May 2018, 10:37 PM
'In the know hun' :lolhuns: telt me tonight they are in talks with ESPN and maybe Gatorade about separate finance deals worth 60m over 4 years, Gerrard being the deal maker/breaker in each. :lmao:
Gerrard, the guy who slept through Dele Alli’s Liverpool interview? That guy?
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What happened with the TOP today ?
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15 May 2018, 05:29 PM
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This new Notice of Complaint neglects to properly capture the provisions of prior agreements made between the Club and the SFA.

That's a bit loaded.
So that's the 5 way agreement getting aired isn't it?
Yes. :thumbsup:
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This has sent them into a effing frenzy over on the Swamp.

The want to boycott away games, take back the Free Broomloan, and resign from Scottish football - starting another "journey" in England's lower leagues.
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15 May 2018, 10:15 PM
Dannybhoy95
15 May 2018, 10:09 PM
This is all well and good, but when's the titles getting stripped?
They won't be.
That depends on whether documentation that would have stopped licence being granted and SPL Lawyers putting similar charges of dishonesty rather than narrow registration failures had been properly provided under the FPP rules and as requested by SPL lawyers.

Non disclosure is their modus operandi and its clever because how can you tell you haven't been provided with information if you don't know you haven't.

The 20th May 2011 letter and its predecessor of 23 Feb 2011 non disclosure should undermine LNS totally if the SFA should have had it in 2011 as FFP requires.

Don't build up your hopes as its a dirty game but LNS said no question of dishonesty corporate or individual when HMRC letters giving reason liability accepted said otherwise.

The game now will be containment.

Remember Celtic said they could not understand how the SFA could investigate the 2011 licence but not SFA handling of ebts with side letters. SFA might have to explain or SPFL could get clarity from LNS.

Regan suggested they could using SDM's FTT testimony re sporting advantage as a reason. What should emerge from JPDT is further reasons to get clarity from LNS and Regan.
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16 May 2018, 12:00 AM
This has sent them into a effing frenzy over on the Swamp.

The want to boycott away games, take back the Free Broomloan, and resign from Scottish football - starting another "journey" in England's lower leagues.
The mystery is why can they not accept their club did not act in good faith to fellow clubs?

The admission of guilt will be a lot harder to bear than any other sanction short of withdrawing their licence/SFA membership which is highly unlikely.
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16 May 2018, 12:00 AM
This has sent them into a effing frenzy over on the Swamp.

The want to boycott away games, take back the Free Broomloan, and resign from Scottish football - starting another "journey" in England's lower leagues.
:clap: :clap: Get tae eff ya cheating tramps.
Nae carrot wants yees, but ye don't care, remember?
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10 year special anniversary thread of circus sideshow performers breaking the manchester telly and punching British police animals.

Right this way >>>

https://twitter.com/tekeltowers/status/996142891302117376?s=21
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16 May 2018, 12:21 AM
10 year special anniversary thread of circus sideshow performers breaking the manchester telly and punching British police animals.

Right this way >>>

https://twitter.com/tekeltowers/status/996142891302117376?s=21
Gerry fae Liverpool must be proud. :lol:
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Ape
16 May 2018, 12:21 AM
10 year special anniversary thread of circus sideshow performers breaking the manchester telly and punching British police animals.

Right this way >>>

https://twitter.com/tekeltowers/status/996142891302117376?s=21
The time when a rogue element got their hands on David Murray's private Messerschmitt.
Edited by Ned Rise, 16 May 2018, 12:41 AM.
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