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The All New Sevco Back in Yer Bin Thread; Taking out the trash
Topic Started: 29 Apr 2018, 04:24 PM (2,086,972 Views)
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He's the figurehead, McAllister will be the brains.
Thank eff for that then.
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I’m still a bit stunned at how this has came about.

Commercially it should be a good move for Sevco or any club for that matter, a big name - a hero - the mad world of sponsorship etc etc. Except, Sevco cant run a business properly, all that’s going to happen is the wall is going to pished up against more often. Any monies brought in through this deal will be eaten up by Gerrard personally and whatever is left will be wasted. What’s new.

So, the big name - the hero - becomes an irrelevance and all that’s left is an u/18s coach who can play fitbaw. He may turn out to be a fantastic coach and Sevco will have got lucky but the odds are hugely stacked against it. There is nothing about this deal that screams success on the pitch, absolutely nothing.

As usual, arrogance will be their downfall and their new messiah comes well equipped in that department.
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They've boobed if hey let her on board.
Don't be a tit mate.

Is she not a Celtic fan? I've seen her at CP a few times, there was even a pic of her doing sit ups with Scott Brown in some rag a few years back.
Are you sure it wasn't press ups with Charlie Mulgrew?
Edited by shugmc, 5 May 2018, 09:59 AM.
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I don't get it
Have you not kept a-breast of Lady Moan of Mayfair's business dealings? If you had you would get it. :thumbsup:
:angry: you didn't geT IT
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Looks like a huge increase in hun hope for the season ahead.

Marvellous, hope can be so deadly.
Delighted. There will be peak levels of hope until around the end of August.
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Great call.
It was the rational call. Rational calls when proved wrong in reality dont become the wrong call.

This move is madness ( dressed up as risk in the media ) for both parties.

Gerrard has more to lose than he has probably calculated in. Not one person in their history ( player, manager, exec or board member ) has left with their reputation enhanced. This could irreparably damage his brand and managerial career

He has shown an arrogance that he doesn’t need to learn a new profession. Brands take years to build up and moments to destroy, he should be in a job where his contribution and lack are hidden from public view until he has learned the ropes.

This is not Souness all over again the world has changed since 1986, Souness was a cheque book manager he was seen for what he was as a manager after he left, his managerial record was dismal post Rangers and Smith showed that Souness wasn’t the differentiator, the money was..

For a club formed on the back of a demise due to reckless spending what they need is certainty and stability. They crave the instant success of the Souness era but don’t understand the differences between then and now make that nothing more than a pipe dream.

Either they are now going to compete on less than 1/3 of the budget of Celtic or they are going to throw money they don’t have at it for the prize of what? At best breaking even in an arms race with an impressively run Celtic. The previous club died trying to match Celtic’s achievements, this one is more obsessed with 10 in a row than we are to the point it can’t stick to it’s knitting.

Both the manager and the club have shown an impatience for instant success instead of building something through hard work, effort and time. This rapaciousness very rarely ends well.

We knew Rangers were capable of this ( just look at their managers since their inception ) but we were not sure if Gerrard was. He has made a stupid call one that some posters thought he was clever enough to avoid, they were wrong but their logic was right.

We know two more things today than we did yesterday.

1. Steve Gerrard is arrogant towards the profession he has just entered.
2. No one at Rangers has learned anything about financial prudence and building a business on the basis of adding value over time. They continue to trade at a loss with no feasible business plan that rises above the world of wishful thinking.

Wishing sometimes work, but it is not really a competitor to a solid plan, financial muscle, good organisation, the discipline to be patient and hard work.


Excellent post.

With regards to the arrogance you speak about, I thought it was good to hear Rodgers subtly reminding everyone of how much he has improved due to his 10 years of experience in the job.

Ironically, I actually think most of us are now looking forward to next season even more.

"Bring it on"? You have no idea...
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Can't wait to see the first XXXL Hummel Shirt with Ge55ard on the back! :boik:
King's Masterstroke with the Kit Supplier ! :twitch:
Edited by tenerifetim, 5 May 2018, 10:22 AM.
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Their triumphalism, arrogance and self proclaimed "wee arra peepel" entitlement seems to be back with a bang. :doh: The SMSM are, as per usual, fawning unashamedly over their "latest saviour" and we will have the usual front and back page moonbeams on a daily basis :nono:. The Gerrard factor might initially give them a wee boost however, they are still miles behind us, both on and off the park, and I'm sure our club will ensure that measures are taken to ensure that they are kept in their box :thumbsup:
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Have you not kept a-breast of Lady Moan of Mayfair's business dealings? If you had you would get it. :thumbsup:
:angry: you didn't geT IT
I eventually did :doh: but by that time i'd posted my ever so witty reply. :lol:

Back on topic, eff the huns and all who manage them. :thumbsup:
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timtastic
5 May 2018, 09:41 AM
He's the figurehead, McAllister will be the brains.
:lol: :potm:
There's probably something to this. An older hand who has experience as a coach. Not that long ago he was working with Brendan Rodgers at Liverpool.

Obviously his managerial/coaching career hasn't been particularly successful, but he certainly has a degree of experience.

I'm not sure I'd go along with the line that Gerrard is being disrespectful to the profession he's entered. There are plenty of players who went straight from playing into management. Some got a bit of coaching experience under their belt first.

Look at our own Neil Lennon who would go up against Walter Smith.

The question is how Steven Gerrard believes he can topple the smart, vastly experienced Brendan Rodgers and financially sound Celtic. Maybe he does in fact believe there will be real money coming in, although King's latest comments about him being financially backed regardless (on a turnover of 29million) should have alarm bells going off already for Gerrard.

On the other hand, there is the very distinct possibility that he will see bringing stability, finishing a clear second, being in the 'title race' until the last couple of games, decent cup runs and maybe even a trophy, avoiding humiliation at the hands of teams from Luxembourg, winning a game against Celtic, all of these things will be seen as stepping stones to stability and respectability. He can then clear the decks having, as one put it the other day, 'learned at the bottom', and go onto a job in England.

Rangers is now in the territory of being referred to as a 'sleeping giant'. Getting it to even fart or raise a growl in a football sense will be seen as progress. If he can avoid things like standing in a bush, he'll be seen a worthy brogue wearer.

But if he doesn't deliver something, he just needs to look how they regard club legends like Ally McCoist these days, while Walter was smart enough to hit the lifeboat at the first sign of the iceberg. Gerrard's reputation as a player has gone. He's a different person now. No amount of crazed ramblings about sorting out Scott Brown will materialise. It's all about the team, the tactics, and if they continue to get gubbed, there will be no hiding place for him.

Ronnie Deila wilted under the pressure, while delivering two titles and a cup. He arrived in Glasgow as a title winner in Norway. Tony Mowbray had been at Celtic as a player and managed at Hibs where he put together a decent side. John Barnes couldn't hack it. Whether winning or losing in Glasgow, it's a pressure cooker. Celtic didn't give the likes of club legend Henrik Larsson the job for a reason. We also knocked back Roy Keane, with a bigger playing reputation than Gerrard and, again, managerial experience under his belt.

Gerrard might well thrive, but as long as Celtic don't get complacent - and it's been the club's biggest enemy over the years - then Gerrard is about to feel the heat like no time since the day he fell on his arse against Chelsea.

He'd have been better taking the team for the last three games, to see the players first hand. Lennon doing that gave him a real sense of what was needed in the team. Gerrard, to me, seems to have already made his first mistake in management.
Edited by Ned Rise, 5 May 2018, 10:39 AM.
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Great call.
It was the rational call. Rational calls when proved wrong in reality dont become the wrong call.

This move is madness ( dressed up as risk in the media ) for both parties.

Gerrard has more to lose than he has probably calculated in. Not one person in their history ( player, manager, exec or board member ) has left with their reputation enhanced. This could irreparably damage his brand and managerial career

He has shown an arrogance that he doesn’t need to learn a new profession. Brands take years to build up and moments to destroy, he should be in a job where his contribution and lack are hidden from public view until he has learned the ropes.

This is not Souness all over again the world has changed since 1986, Souness was a cheque book manager he was seen for what he was as a manager after he left, his managerial record was dismal post Rangers and Smith showed that Souness wasn’t the differentiator, the money was..

For a club formed on the back of a demise due to reckless spending what they need is certainty and stability. They crave the instant success of the Souness era but don’t understand the differences between then and now make that nothing more than a pipe dream.

Either they are now going to compete on less than 1/3 of the budget of Celtic or they are going to throw money they don’t have at it for the prize of what? At best breaking even in an arms race with an impressively run Celtic. The previous club died trying to match Celtic’s achievements, this one is more obsessed with 10 in a row than we are to the point it can’t stick to it’s knitting.

Both the manager and the club have shown an impatience for instant success instead of building something through hard work, effort and time. This rapaciousness very rarely ends well.

We knew Rangers were capable of this ( just look at their managers since their inception ) but we were not sure if Gerrard was. He has made a stupid call one that some posters thought he was clever enough to avoid, they were wrong but their logic was right.

We know two more things today than we did yesterday.

1. Steve Gerrard is arrogant towards the profession he has just entered.
2. No one at Rangers has learned anything about financial prudence and building a business on the basis of adding value over time. They continue to trade at a loss with no feasible business plan that rises above the world of wishful thinking.

Wishing sometimes work, but it is not really a competitor to a solid plan, financial muscle, good organisation, the discipline to be patient and hard work.


Excellent post.

What I took out of yesterday was a man who has the arrogance to believe he can walk into to a senior position without paying his dues.

If I was a Steve Clarke or a McInnes, I would be itching to put stevie G in his place.

Most guys in charge of their clubs have put the time, effort & training into gaining the experience they have, it doesn't come easy as grand master stevie will no doubt find out next season.

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:angry: you didn't geT IT
I eventually did :doh: but by that time i'd posted my ever so witty reply. :lol:

Back on topic, eff the huns and all who manage them. :thumbsup:
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A Heavy tweeter hinted at investment last night (with King peeling away) and another on here suggested King has something lined up on Monday. No real detail so Ive no idea whether these are guesses. I dont mind the gossipy stuff, its the fishing I dont get.

Lets say though that spawn of hun have changes afoot - any improvement in them (& the bigger Scottish clubs) should provide the spur for our team to push on.

But, arguably, we do take exception to their grandstanding, even if it is all hollow and of little significance. We've enjoyed their antics, their hyperbole as it provides a level of compensation for the gross cheating the hun got away with. The huns, in all likelihoods, will never have to properly face the music for what they did. Maybe in years to come they'll be some sort of acknowledgement, but I wouldnt bet on it. I think this grievance colours a lot of the talk around what will probably always be our main if not just our city rival.

That and what the poisonous 'institution' rallies to and spews out. Their hatred will always be focused on us. This appointment is all the proof you need. Their desperation can hopefully be kept in check but they get drunk on the stuff; we all remember McCoist playing with fire while he wore the brogues.

While I dont think its a bad idea to keep tabs on whats going on over there an adjustment, of our own expectations of what forms karma can take, would be healthy for us. Just let them scream. Let Gerrard make his own decision to call out the support's 'tendency' and their chants or not. It makes no difference.
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I thought Gerrard came across as very naive in his press conference. Saying things like, "bring it on" and, "I'm here to make these people smile", seemed either very arrogant or at best very misguided.

I think it's the latter. Gerrard has no idea what he's just walked into and - like most people down south - has completely underestimated the enormity of the task. It wouldn't surprise me if he doesn't really have any knowledge of Sevco's financial problems, the seedy past of the dead club, or the basket case structure of the current one.

Brendan's comments regards the appointment were pretty measured. Nice, polite, yet at the same time they made it clear he is going to crush this guy without actually saying it directly.

The players will probably do better today against Killie than anticipated simply because the new man will be watching. But I can't see Stevie G coming up against a guy with the mental toughness and managerial experience of Neil Lennon and not getting his arse handed to him. Same with Clarke. Those guys are real pro managers, McInnes as well actually.

I get the feeling Stevie isn't taking all of this too seriously. As Strachan said, he really should be.
McInnes :lol:

He'll still be getting his arse handed to him by a rookie manager next season. The guy is a total loser.
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Hearing that Park wants his money back to the tune of £19M and has went legal on it.
Personally I can't see Park being in to them for that much but would be delicious if true.

Just thought I would share.
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They are all coming out of the woodwork.. A car load of huns driving round Midlothian last night with union jacks flying from the windows... deluded :lolhuns:
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Well this isn’t awkward <a href="https://t.co/a5sqBoDGzV">pic.twitter.com/a5sqBoDGzV</a></p>— tam sellics son (@gibbygibbo1) <a href="https://twitter.com/gibbygibbo1/status/992535786888286209?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 4, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>[\class]
Oh FFS. Imagine letting that out. Bell already hates him. David Brent at the end there.
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Hearing that Park wants his money back to the tune of £19M and has went legal on it.
Personally I can't see Park being in to them for that much but would be delicious if true.

Just thought I would share.
Were there not rumours that Park fronted up the money for King to buy his holding, although that still wouldn't add up to £19m?
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