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The All New Sevco Back in Yer Bin Thread; Taking out the trash
Topic Started: 29 Apr 2018, 04:24 PM (2,086,973 Views)
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Just imagine if King didn't have £11m and decided to stand down. And just imagine if he wanted the others to write off their loans and some refused to do so. Just imagine.
Barry scott back to hong kong repaid in full from ST Money?
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5 May 2018, 07:41 AM
Do the huns actually think we are beelin'? Maybe it's the circles I move in but I haven't met a Celtic fan who isn't pleased with this to some degree.

It's just their standard response to anything, King appointed and we all laughed but Timmy's pure beelin', The Portuguese James Bond, winning 4 games in a row etc etc. No evidence to back any of it up but since when did that matter to huns?
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From sevcomedia

"Not to cause any worry but one of the few ways the TOP can have its powers to force an offer by concert party to purchase shares ended is for the company whose shares are the subject of the TOP action to enter into an insolvency event. No share purchase offer need be made if the company is in administration or liquidation.

With the interdict granted yesterday, if King cannot get the funds raised to make the offer then this would be one way out for him."
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Any deal like that would certainly have its knockers.
They've boobed if hey let her on board.
Don't be a tit mate.

Is she not a Celtic fan? I've seen her at CP a few times, there was even a pic of her doing sit ups with Scott Brown in some rag a few years back.
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Bra-vo. Very well done. :clap:
Any deal like that would certainly have its knockers.
Up front deal, supportive and outstanding plus chance to get cups
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Bra-vo. Very well done. :clap:
I don't get it
Have you not kept a-breast of Lady Moan of Mayfair's business dealings? If you had you would get it. :thumbsup:
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Great call.
It was the rational call. Rational calls when proved wrong in reality dont become the wrong call.

This move is madness ( dressed up as risk in the media ) for both parties.

Gerrard has more to lose than he has probably calculated in. Not one person in their history ( player, manager, exec or board member ) has left with their reputation enhanced. This could irreparably damage his brand and managerial career

He has shown an arrogance that he doesn’t need to learn a new profession. Brands take years to build up and moments to destroy, he should be in a job where his contribution and lack are hidden from public view until he has learned the ropes.

This is not Souness all over again the world has changed since 1986, Souness was a cheque book manager he was seen for what he was as a manager after he left, his managerial record was dismal post Rangers and Smith showed that Souness wasn’t the differentiator, the money was..

For a club formed on the back of a demise due to reckless spending what they need is certainty and stability. They crave the instant success of the Sonness era but don’t understand the differences between then and now make that nothing more than a pipe dream.

Either they are now going to compete on less than 1/3 of the budget of Celtic or they are going to throw money they don’t have at it for the prize of what? At best breaking even in an arms race with an impressively run Celtic. The previous club died trying to match Celtic’s achievements, this one is more obsessed with 10 in a row than we are to the point it can’t stick to it’s knitting.

Both the manager and the club have shown an impatience for instant success instead of building something through hard work, effort and time. This rapaciousness very rarely ends well.

We knew Rangers we’re capable of this ( just look at their managers since their inception ) but we were not sure if Gerrard was. He has made a stupid call one that some posters thought he was clever enough to avoid, they were wrong but their logic was right.

We know two more things today than we did yesterday.

1. Steve Gerrard is arrogant towards the profession he has just entered.
2. No one at Rangers has learned anything about financial prudence and building a business on the basis of adding value over time. They continue to trade at a loss with no feasible business plan that rises above the world of wishful thinking.

Wishing sometimes work, but it is not really a competitor to a solid plan, financial muscle, good organisation, the discipline to be patient and hard work.


Great call, Adam. :thumbsup: Sad to see a guy you respected act like a silly wean.
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Pmsl at the "Mr Gerrard" pish on their message boards...
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https://news.paddypower.com/football/2018/05/02/john-brewin-steven-gerrard-rangers/?AFF_ID=16561&utm_source=m.facebook.com&utm_medium=referral&dclid=CLWCrrOP7toCFcZFGwodAiIL_Q

I thought this article was quite well thought out, especially when you consider its on the Paddy Power website. Pretty much explains why Gerrard is more than likely doomed to fail.
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5 May 2018, 01:30 AM
The Scouse Cathro.
Cathro had more experience.
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5 May 2018, 07:25 AM
I think if King doesn't announce major investment on Monday and they carry on with the same budget SG won't be here for the season kicking off.
Yup.
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Any deal like that would certainly have its knockers.
Up front deal, supportive and outstanding plus chance to get cups
An absolute Bint. She would be well suited to the Hun.

Mind when she grassed Mulgrew in for seemingly leaving his kids unattended in his car.

She was so shocked , she took to twitter on the spot to tweet how absolutely shocked she was.

A self serving Tory arsehole.
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They're feel good factor will last until monster munch knocks in his 2nd of the day today to win it for killie.....and they realise Hibs are now 3 pts ahead of them.
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5 May 2018, 09:15 AM
https://news.paddypower.com/football/2018/05/02/john-brewin-steven-gerrard-rangers/?AFF_ID=16561&utm_source=m.facebook.com&utm_medium=referral&dclid=CLWCrrOP7toCFcZFGwodAiIL_Q

I thought this article was quite well thought out, especially when you consider its on the Paddy Power website. Pretty much explains why Gerrard is more than likely doomed to fail.
You will see very few articles like that doing the rounds in MSM.

Interesting the point made about him not being a great talker or a thinker. There's been a hell of a lot of revisionism of him as a player in that respect in the last few days.

Benitez often wouldn't trust him to play centrally in the big games as he didn't have the tactical awareness & was more concerned with chasing the ball. He always came in for stick with England for that too.

Klopp needed a number 2 & Gerrard wasn't even considered - that speaks volumes.

He will be called upon to make on the spot decisions when things aren't going well in games. Stuff like that will trip him up (amongst plenty other things).

Still, zero point in getting technical about it - 55 is on the way :lolhuns:
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I thought Gerrard came across as very naive in his press conference. Saying things like, "bring it on" and, "I'm here to make these people smile", seemed either very arrogant or at best very misguided.

I think it's the latter. Gerrard has no idea what he's just walked into and - like most people down south - has completely underestimated the enormity of the task. It wouldn't surprise me if he doesn't really have any knowledge of Sevco's financial problems, the seedy past of the dead club, or the basket case structure of the current one.

Brendan's comments regards the appointment were pretty measured. Nice, polite, yet at the same time they made it clear he is going to crush this guy without actually saying it directly.

The players will probably do better today against Killie than anticipated simply because the new man will be watching. But I can't see Stevie G coming up against a guy with the mental toughness and managerial experience of Neil Lennon and not getting his arse handed to him. Same with Clarke. Those guys are real pro managers, McInnes as well actually.

I get the feeling Stevie isn't taking all of this too seriously. As Strachan said, he really should be.
Edited by tinytim81, 5 May 2018, 09:36 AM.
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5 May 2018, 09:11 AM
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It was the rational call. Rational calls when proved wrong in reality dont become the wrong call.

This move is madness ( dressed up as risk in the media ) for both parties.

Gerrard has more to lose than he has probably calculated in. Not one person in their history ( player, manager, exec or board member ) has left with their reputation enhanced. This could irreparably damage his brand and managerial career

He has shown an arrogance that he doesn’t need to learn a new profession. Brands take years to build up and moments to destroy, he should be in a job where his contribution and lack are hidden from public view until he has learned the ropes.

This is not Souness all over again the world has changed since 1986, Souness was a cheque book manager he was seen for what he was as a manager after he left, his managerial record was dismal post Rangers and Smith showed that Souness wasn’t the differentiator, the money was..

For a club formed on the back of a demise due to reckless spending what they need is certainty and stability. They crave the instant success of the Sonness era but don’t understand the differences between then and now make that nothing more than a pipe dream.

Either they are now going to compete on less than 1/3 of the budget of Celtic or they are going to throw money they don’t have at it for the prize of what? At best breaking even in an arms race with an impressively run Celtic. The previous club died trying to match Celtic’s achievements, this one is more obsessed with 10 in a row than we are to the point it can’t stick to it’s knitting.

Both the manager and the club have shown an impatience for instant success instead of building something through hard work, effort and time. This rapaciousness very rarely ends well.

We knew Rangers we’re capable of this ( just look at their managers since their inception ) but we were not sure if Gerrard was. He has made a stupid call one that some posters thought he was clever enough to avoid, they were wrong but their logic was right.

We know two more things today than we did yesterday.

1. Steve Gerrard is arrogant towards the profession he has just entered.
2. No one at Rangers has learned anything about financial prudence and building a business on the basis of adding value over time. They continue to trade at a loss with no feasible business plan that rises above the world of wishful thinking.

Wishing sometimes work, but it is not really a competitor to a solid plan, financial muscle, good organisation, the discipline to be patient and hard work.


Great call, Adam. :thumbsup: Sad to see a guy you respected act like a silly wean.
This could be Steven Gerrard's Gerald Ratner moment.
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He's the figurehead, McAllister will be the brains.
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5 May 2018, 09:33 AM
I thought Gerrard came across as very naive in his press conference. Saying things like, "bring it on" and, "I'm here to make these people smile", seemed either very arrogant or at best very misguided.

I think it's the latter. Gerrard has no idea what he's just walked into and - like most people down south - has completely underestimated the enormity of the task. It wouldn't surprise me if he doesn't really have any knowledge of Sevco's financial problems, the seedy past of the dead club, or the basket case structure of the current one.

Brendan's comments regards the appointment were pretty measured. Nice, polite, yet at the same time they made it clear he is going to crush this guy without actually saying it directly.

The players will probably do better today against Killie than anticipated simply because the new man will be watching. But I can't see Stevie G coming up against a guy with the mental toughness and managerial experience of Neil Lennon and not getting his arse handed to him. Same with Clarke. Those guys are real pro managers, McInnes as well actually.

I get the feeling Stevie isn't taking all of this too seriously. As Strachan said, he really should be.
Brendan is the complete package, not just as a tactician, man manager, coach, but he understands the operational aspects of a club very well.
His whole philosophy is clear in every area.

This, to me, brings the reality of Gerrard into perspective.

£120M injection (aye, right)? Still not enough when there is no-one there to use it correctly.
Limited funds = no Gerrard
Spending more on the squad and management = even larger operating loss.

He was offloaded, desperate, and been sucked in to a hellish cesspit to serve a short-term PR campaign to avoid the final nail in the coffin.

I want front row seats for this =D
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Looks like a huge increase in hun hope for the season ahead.

Marvellous, hope can be so deadly.
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